SupremeCommander wrote:When Shumpert gets back I think things will look a lot better

offensively or defensively?

mrKnickShot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

misterearl wrote:JR Smith, armed with Bill Bradley's "sense of where he is on the court", is Kobe Bryant

Bonn1997 wrote:If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

The step back jumper against Charlotte was a thing of beauty.

No it was not!

It was just another feast or famine JR insanity-shot.

Exactly; he shot 6-16 overall, including 1 of 9 from 3 pt range. If he had a decent shooting night, there wouldn't have even been a need for that final shot.

Just showing he went 1-9 is cute but that does not tell the whole story. What kind of shots were they? Were they contested, in transition, off screen, and etc. Were they early in the shot clock or late in the shot clock? Is a shot bad because it is missed? I don't think so.

are you really saying that he takes good shots or at least good for him?

I am saying some may be good but some may be bad I would have to look at the game again. I do not however base a bad shot on if its made or not. Does he make me scratch my head a lot yes.

mrKnickShot wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:as for JR, I'm a huge fan of what he provides... I cna't believe people have an issue with him when he's playing for a pretty reasonable contract

5-19 is cause for issue

I'm not denying that... he's got to play more disciplined but I do think he's a net contributor. He plays hard and some nights he is a wild card that can win a game for you. I think he's making under $3 million a year... I'd find a place for him at that price

SupremeCommander wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:as for JR, I'm a huge fan of what he provides... I cna't believe people have an issue with him when he's playing for a pretty reasonable contract

5-19 is cause for issue

I'm not denying that... he's got to play more disciplined but I do think he's a net contributor. He plays hard and some nights he is a wild card that can win a game for you. I think he's making under $3 million a year... I'd find a place for him at that price

he is a bargain. For many reasons.

His defense and rebounding, matchups ...

Woody should ride him when he is hot - and when he is hot, he is great.

Woody should sit him when he is not - since when he is not, he is awful!

It is early and I believe/hope that Woody has a plan here.

mrKnickShot wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:When Shumpert gets back I think things will look a lot better

offensively or defensively?

obviously defensively. Possibly offensively, as long as he really only initiates in transition and flies to the rim like Chandler. if he does his dribble, dribble chuck thing then he hurts the offense. But his defense will make the backcourt better, because he'll slow down the other team's SG, who more likely than not is better than who the Knicks are playing right now

ok - can't argue with that.

He is so HIGHLY overrated offensively by knick fans.

He is in the bottom 20 pct of SG's offensively.

Panos wrote:If woody had gone straight to the police, this would never had happened.

What?

BRIGGS wrote:

blkexec wrote:This team has flaws...just like every NBA team. Our main flaw is not SG, old age, etc....It's dumb azz Knick fans that always find something to complain about. Top team in the East, undefeated at home. Best team any Knick fan has ever seen or heard since the 70's. The thing this thread is good for, is to invite other fans to spread their negative cancer.

Regardless of this team blowing out Miami twice by 20, winning tough games while shooting under 40%....we continue to create negative threads like this? What do you want, Dantoni back? Unbelievable.....

I guess most people can't function throughout the day, without hating something.....

Why is having flaw negative? Our SG position is fair but could certainly be looked at as a weak spot of a good team. Instead of having Ray Felton and JR Smith shoot too much--why not try out James White at SG for 10-15 minutes to break things up? When we played Chicago who was our best + and - player? James White. We have been able to get by with low TO's but at some point if we let these guys continue to shoot 9-30 it will bite us. My take is break the minutes up and add White play JR less and demand a little more efficiency from him. Felton is also carrying too much load with FGA's.

Right now it's basically Melo, then JR and then Felton for our offense. We don't just want him on that wall, we need him on that wall.