dk7th wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Gallinari, Elite?

Lulz

to be clear, in terms of scoring efficiency he's up there at the top among non-centers.

that talent alone does not make him an elite player but it does indicate that he is a very valuable player to have on your team, a moneyball type player.

Money ball if you just look at TS%.

How about win shares? Time on IR? eFG? Assists - 1.7? Rebounds - 4.5?

Its not all about TS

AnubisADL wrote:Amare carried the team the first part of the season then proceeded to break down. So lets not go over board in giving all the credit to Gallinari and Chandler.

What has Mozgov done?
What has Randolph done?
What has Felton done?
What has Corey Brewer done?

I am not fascinated with NBA compost.

Terrence Williams and Jonny Flynn were waived today.

Plenty of underachievers looking for contracts. I'm not shedding a tear.

ok, I will spin it your way.. if that was the case why not bring in more guys to enhance amare instead of one who would pretty much interfere with the way amare plays?

mrKnickShot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

3G4G wrote:Oh and Anubis tell Carmelo to take off The Barry Bonds type body armor under his jersey and on his arms and legs. Did anyone see him the other night against Toronto? It's like dude was preparing for some stunt involving fire, he had like inflammable gear on under his jersey. He's also looks like he's put back on the 12lbs he lost. Interesting Walsh commented about him being in shape. His act is tired, he dresses up for bully ball but cries to the press he doesn't want to play the 4 because it's takes a toll on him night-in and night-out.

Oh and Gallo may be finding his stroke like I said. Last night he was 6-13fg from 3pt range and 9-20 in the game against OKC. His pre-season shooting numbers are pretty decent.

Gallo finding his stroke?

I think this needs its own topic.

i guess you still find value in FG% in the 3-point era, right?

he has averaged a TS% of above 58 for his career. last night was 59.4%

that stat puts him in the elite of the league-- not someone you trade... unless you are dolan.

Gallo has a good TS mainly due to FT shooting. He is a good player who has issues staying on the court. Overrated? I don't anymore being that most people know already what he is.

I've stated that we overpaid. Nuff said. Next.

yes gallo's injuries have really hurt his progress. maybe he can finally get past the injury bug. not to go too off-topic but he showed himself to have a great shot his first 28 games his rookie year, then he bulked up perhaps too much and his shot flattened out a bit. but on FT he has another skill that goes underappreciated which is drawing fouls. his detractors love to accuse him of flopping but i see little difference between what he does and some of the other players who draw alot of fouls.

dk7th wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

3G4G wrote:Oh and Anubis tell Carmelo to take off The Barry Bonds type body armor under his jersey and on his arms and legs. Did anyone see him the other night against Toronto? It's like dude was preparing for some stunt involving fire, he had like inflammable gear on under his jersey. He's also looks like he's put back on the 12lbs he lost. Interesting Walsh commented about him being in shape. His act is tired, he dresses up for bully ball but cries to the press he doesn't want to play the 4 because it's takes a toll on him night-in and night-out.

Oh and Gallo may be finding his stroke like I said. Last night he was 6-13fg from 3pt range and 9-20 in the game against OKC. His pre-season shooting numbers are pretty decent.

Gallo finding his stroke?

I think this needs its own topic.

i guess you still find value in FG% in the 3-point era, right?

he has averaged a TS% of above 58 for his career. last night was 59.4%

that stat puts him in the elite of the league-- not someone you trade... unless you are dolan.

Gallo has a good TS mainly due to FT shooting. He is a good player who has issues staying on the court. Overrated? I don't anymore being that most people know already what he is.

I've stated that we overpaid. Nuff said. Next.

yes gallo's injuries have really hurt his progress. maybe he can finally get past the injury bug. not to go too off-topic but he showed himself to have a great shot his first 28 games his rookie year, then he bulked up perhaps too much and his shot flattened out a bit. but on FT he has another skill that goes underappreciated which is drawing fouls. his detractors love to accuse him of flopping but i see little difference between what he does and some of the other players who draw alot of fouls.

I think that his TS will go down this year along with the number of FT attempts. He does sell fouls well but they will crack down on him - fair or not.

He was touted as the next Dirk. His shot has been awful for most of his career. He excels most at drawing fouls and FT pct.

I do not dislike Gallo - I was just underwhelmed. Every game that he shot better than 50 pct from the field, everyone state "maybe he finally got his stroke back". Unfortunately, I think that we might here that for the rest of his career.

Would still like to have him on my team although, I was a much bigger Wilson Chandler fan but he can't either stay on the court.

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Gallinari, Elite?

Lulz

to be clear, in terms of scoring efficiency he's up there at the top among non-centers.

that talent alone does not make him an elite player but it does indicate that he is a very valuable player to have on your team, a moneyball type player.

guys like gallo are what I consider "unique talents"... you get that in rondo, even lin to some degree... these are guys who bring things to the table that not many players do at a pretty high level...

No you won't see them holding the ball, jab stepping to the oldies, or smiling after making a basket and his team down double digits...... no, these guys are most likely not superstars in the sense that most see superstars, but they have real value and bring another dimension to teams that not many guys do....

Gallinari and Lin aren't even in the same sentence as Rondo. Rondo is an iron man and one of the top players at his position. What's amazing is how efficient Rondo is without have a jumper.

Plus Rondo has been getting it done for a few years now even with a hobbled big 3. I doubted him but he has proven he is the real deal.

NYKBocker wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:The only way you trade Amare now is to send an asset with him. The assets we have that can do this is Melo and Shump. Everybody else are filler. Amare will not get traded until the last year of his contract.

Tyson is not an asset?

Sorry..He is but would you take Amare and Tyson together. I meant assets that can be packaged with Amare.

Amare is uninsured but Im sure Golden State would let us have Bogut, Biedrens, and Jefferson for Amare and Chandler.

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Gallinari, Elite?

Lulz

to be clear, in terms of scoring efficiency he's up there at the top among non-centers.

that talent alone does not make him an elite player but it does indicate that he is a very valuable player to have on your team, a moneyball type player.

guys like gallo are what I consider "unique talents"... you get that in rondo, even lin to some degree... these are guys who bring things to the table that not many players do at a pretty high level...

No you won't see them holding the ball, jab stepping to the oldies, or smiling after making a basket and his team down double digits...... no, these guys are most likely not superstars in the sense that most see superstars, but they have real value and bring another dimension to teams that not many guys do....

Gallinari and Lin aren't even in the same sentence as Rondo. Rondo is an iron man and one of the top players at his position. What's amazing is how efficient Rondo is without have a jumper.

Plus Rondo has been getting it done for a few years now even with a hobbled big 3. I doubted him but he has proven he is the real deal.

OH HERE WE GO.. with the player "X" is not in the same sentences as player "Y"...

Again, they all are unique talents bro.... all this other stuff about him not having a jumper, yadada, is what makes him unique..

gallo and lin are pretty unique talents.... like it or not.. they like rondo will need the time to prove how good they are, but they are unique talents nonetheless...

VCoug wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Amare carried the team the first part of the season then proceeded to break down. So lets not go over board in giving all the credit to Gallinari and Chandler.

What has Mozgov done?
What has Randolph done?
What has Felton done?
What has Corey Brewer done?

I am not fascinated with NBA compost.

Terrence Williams and Jonny Flynn were waived today.

Plenty of underachievers looking for contracts. I'm not shedding a tear.

They were waived? Those are two guys we need to at least take a look at.

We sure do. Melo needs all the young talent and Superstars he can get to help him get over the hump.

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:No, I not happy with the way the team is currently assembled. I wasn't happy with the previous team either.

However, I do realize you have to give to get. We traded potential for actual production. Look what the Clippers gave up for Chris Paul. Look what the lakers gave up for Howard. Regardless of how any one feels about Bynum he is the undusputed 2nd best center in the NBA.

I can imagine us missing out on Melo altogether and being forced to keep praying Gallo and Chandler turn the corner. Then we'd would truly have a broken down Amare with ice bags in his knees.

Getting Melo gave us options and something to build around.

Oh and I can see Gallinari getting traded this year too.

If it makes you feel better saying you think Gallo will be trade bait have it. Let's back up to 2010-2011 a bit

Chandler was a RFA the same year Melo could have opted out. Let's say Melo gets traded to New Jersey since he said himself that's where he thought he was going had Denver not struck a deal with us. Since the org at the time was still high on Gallo could we not have S&T Chandler in the summer to add to what we had? Could we have made a deal for Deron maybe requiring less assets? Wouldn't our cap situation be a little more manageable? Melo wasn't going to put us over the Top so why not let natural progression run it's course even if it's a tad slower than we'd like in the end we achieve equal results but retain value within. Instead we bottom out for Melo.... now you and myriads of other fans are crying that Melo needs help.

GET REALITY!

One thing I will give Denver credit for recently is their correcting their mistakes quickly.

They overpaid Affalo and Nene and both have been traded. They overpaid Gallo too and he will soon be on the way out.

Deron was traded for lottery picks. Knicks had no real assets except Gallinari and Chandler. Lottery picks are more important to rebuilding teams than soon to be RFAs.

Gallo will be on their team for a while if for nothing else he's linked to the Melo trade and young. Once again keep talking yourself into that in hopes it validates your opinion of Gallo. Look I feel Gallo has flaws myself was never that high on him TS% aside... but he isn't a bad player and accumulatively we paid too much for Melo... a trade which Gallo was a part of. I don't look at the trade with tunnel vision like you do... Melo for Gallo. It was so much more.

good post 3g and I know you wanted Eric gordon, but i find it hilarious how people are rooting for gallo's demise in order to validate the melo trade..... I don't think gallo is going anywhere.. check out this article.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_21813760/danilo-gallinari-emerging-nuggets-leader

the nuggets like where they are and they like gallo, they wasted no time giving him and chandler new deals, but I am sure if some team comes at them with a deal that overwhelms them they would trade anyone on that team, as most teams would.. still doesn't take away the fact that those kids were good... no matter how much you wish gallo fails..

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:

VCoug wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Amare carried the team the first part of the season then proceeded to break down. So lets not go over board in giving all the credit to Gallinari and Chandler.

What has Mozgov done?
What has Randolph done?
What has Felton done?
What has Corey Brewer done?

I am not fascinated with NBA compost.

Terrence Williams and Jonny Flynn were waived today.

Plenty of underachievers looking for contracts. I'm not shedding a tear.

They were waived? Those are two guys we need to at least take a look at.

We sure do. Melo needs all the young talent and Superstars he can get to help him get over the hump.

is wade, kobe , durant and lebron available?

No, but maybe Gallinari and Mozgov is!