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GustavBahler
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10/10/2012  3:17 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
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smackeddog wrote:
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smackeddog wrote:Here's a short video of him working out:

http://hoopshype.com/videos/thelighterside/rasheed-wallace-working-out

I don't get how he's lost so much weight so quickly, yet he stayed so chubby throughout the whole season with the Celtics. Anyways, it looks like it'll be a while before he starts impressing any young players with those post moves in the video...

Didn't look exactly like he was trying to school the trainer. Looked more like a conditioning drill.

Yeah, I'm not seriously going to judge him on that video performance wise, but I will say he is doing a great job losing the weight.

Sure did. Looked like Sheed got bored by the end of his career and it took a couple of seasons of being away from the pro game to get the fire back. Guess we will find out soon enough.

Im impressed with the way sheed is being involved. For example he was very focused on showing low post moves to our guys and also telling them what other players do. I know Sheed can be a hothead but he is passionate about the game

I didnt know that, thats great.

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10/10/2012  3:27 PM
this team needs men with balls. Last year when teams decided to knock Lin to the floor the only guy that stood up and shoved guys back was Amare. With Camby, Kurt and Sheed here this will help. We need tough guys. Felton too.

I hope Sheed gets in shape. He's the kind of mental case who is fun to root for, when he's YOUR mental case. The Buck Williams role is a good one and an important one. Hoping it works out.

My god, imagine who tight he would be wrapped if he didnt blaze lol... dude would have killed someone by now

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10/11/2012  9:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/11/2012  10:12 AM
The Buck Williams/Terry Cummings role is exactly what the Knicks are going for with Sheed & KT. Buck was very effective in limited minutes on both ends of the court even at 40. As well as toughness in practice. I think a lot of it has to do with H20 and LJ now being in the mix in the front office. Trying to emulate the success of the late 90s Knicks. Hopefully Felton is better than Chris Childs. Though Childs was clutch. JR contend for 6th man of the year like Starks
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10/11/2012  10:40 AM

Me just guessing, but maybe Sheed thought of having to work and practice against KG and thought life is too short to put up with that Cocoa Puff!
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10/14/2012  9:26 AM
Woodson said he was hoping that Wallace would be able to scrimmage next week as he continued to work on his conditioning. “He’s been going at it hard and he’s starting to look good,” Woodson said. “We’ll evaluate him next week and see where he is.”

Nalod wrote:
Me just guessing, but maybe Sheed thought of having to work and practice against KG and thought life is too short to put up with that Cocoa Puff!

The Answer Man never guesses, but if he did, he would guess that Rasheed would help against a Cocoa Puff frontline like the Celtics. His understudy, Chris Copeland played bigger than Jerome James, was more active than Jordan Hill and more polished than Jerome Jordan. Amar'e Stoudemire is the X factor. Marcus Camby as The Intimidator.

Sign me up.

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10/22/2012  11:25 AM
Hold Up

But Wait, There's More

"Monday morning, coach Mike Woodson described Rasheed Wallace as closer to returning than Marcus Camby. Think about what that means. Who is the backup center, if not Camby? Either Wallace or Kurt Thomas, neither of whom can be expected to play extended minutes, and both of whom constitute the sum total of power forward minutes other than Anthony with Stoudemire out.

If Wallace and Thomas need to be the backup centers, then who is left to play the power forward spot? Everything’s coming up Chris Copeland.

Obviously, all of this can change quickly. Hopefully, Stoudemire returns to health shortly. (That statement’s been used before.) Camby could be back soon, too. And perhaps once Wallace is cleared to play, he’ll be able to start playing large minutes. He is well-rested.

But all of these could bes, so far, haven’t happened. Meanwhile, Copeland has played, and produced.

For now, anyway, Chris Copeland matters. And the fact that he’s played so well is a relief; imagine if he’d dome with his preseason chance what Mychel Thompson has done with his."

- Howard Megdal

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10/26/2012  12:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  12:12 PM
Friday Scrimmage

So with a guaranteed roster spot likely for Sheed, here are 3 (of five) things he'll provide the Knicks during the season:

2. Posting up. The Knicks also could set Wallace up on the low block, his second sweet spot in halfcourt sets. He has an almost unstoppable turnaround jumper, again helped by his height and high release point. While he's obviously lost some explosiveness at the age of 38, his strength, shooting ability and overall experience still give him an edge.

3. Defending. Wallace takes great pride in his defense, and he backs that up with his trash-talking. He's a very confident player and will say whatever is on his mind -- which will make some of the young bucks in the league, no matter how talented they are, a little uneasy going up against him. Speaking of trash-talking, the biggest thing the Knicks will have to be concerned about with Wallace on the court -- besides an injury, of course -- is him getting called for technical fouls. That will always be part of his legacy.

5. Providing a locker room presence. Not only will his teammates enjoy having him around, the media will usually gravitate to him first to get a money quote. There isn't a more honest, hilarious and outspoken person on the team than Wallace, and he'll always keep it real, providing an update of what's going on with the team. That measuring stick will keep things in perspective and everyone in check.

- Jared Zwerling, ESPN

In tandem with Prigioni, Sheed will be valuable, both inside and outside. The cohesion between the versatile 6'11 Camby and talented 6'11 Sheed could be a thing of beauty.

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10/26/2012  12:27 PM
Maybe Sheed can be our "Big Shot Bob"

Come in cold off the bench, and hit the dagger 3 in the 4th quarter.

That shyt was uncanny, Horry would just hit 3s at the most pressurized moments. Big Shot 'Sheed?

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10/26/2012  12:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  1:00 PM
Sheed is a clown and we have no idea at his age if he can replecate what he had 3 years ago.

I would not count on him. If he can be a back up its all a bonus.

Just win baby!

IF "Need Weed Sheed" can be "Big Shot Rob" that would be great.

I think "Big Fellow Melo" is taking those shots. Get used to the cringe when Felton has to take it if Melo does not shake free.

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10/26/2012  1:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  1:22 PM
Nalod wrote:Sheed is a clown and we have no idea at his age if he can replecate what he had 3 years ago.

I would not count on him. If he can be a back up its all a bonus.

Just win baby!

IF "Need Weed Sheed" can be "Big Shot Rob" that would be great.

I think "Big Fellow Melo" is taking those shots. Get used to the cringe when Felton has to take it if Melo does not shake free.

I already cringe when Ray takes it, but then I clap when it goes in!

Overall, I like when Ray attacks the basket, especially that teardrop/runner he displayed against BK.

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10/26/2012  2:43 PM
fishmike wrote:this team needs men with balls. Last year when teams decided to knock Lin to the floor the only guy that stood up and shoved guys back was Amare. With Camby, Kurt and Sheed here this will help.

Can guys in suits come of the bench to protect their teammate?

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10/26/2012  2:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  2:51 PM
Nalod wrote:Sheed is a clown

yeah, just another clown with a ring. And we're not talking Eddy Curry with a ring. Or Marbles with a ring.

Nalod wrote:I think "Big Fellow Melo" is taking those shots. Get used to the cringe when Felton has to take it if Melo does not shake free.

And Novak will be where during that time? Or JR? Or even Pablo? JKidd? Shump? Does all this give us nothing but cringe?

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10/26/2012  3:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2012  3:13 PM
Just win baby!

(Or: it takes a Village Of Pine Brothers to Raise A Championship Banner)

Nalod wrote:Sheed is a clown and we have no idea at his age if he can replecate what he had 3 years ago.

Sheed may make you frown, but he is certainly no one's clown. Don't let the antics fool you, Dean Smith, Larry Brown and his running buddies in the locker room have much respect for his game. To run with Maestro Pablo, no replication of his yoot is needed... just catch the rock and make a layup from point blank range. Rasheed can do that in his sleep.

Nalod wrote:I would not count on him. If he can be a back up its all a bonus.

Sheed is simply insurance for the second line. If Woody wants to go big for 5 minutes minutes (say, against the shrimpy Heat) he can walk out Tyson Chandler, Sheed and Camby together, just for kicks and giggles.

Wait until they get a load of that.

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10/26/2012  4:09 PM
I'm surprised at the level of disrespect some have for Sheed. Dude has always been a highly skilled player and you tend not to lose that with age. He's not about jumping high and dunking everything. Just like KT, he can actually shoot the ball and has savvy moves and knows all the tricks on D. people really do need to stop thinking that everything is about athletic prowess. KT barely gets off the ground, but he's still effective in the game of BB. Sheed was perhaps just not mentally in the game back when he finally retired. Nothing in his actual play on the court suggested he was done. For highly skilled guys like Sheed it's mostly a mental thing. He looks refreshed and inspired to play again. I think he's gonna help this team. In fact all of our old guys have looked much better than you'd think they should look going up against kids with loads of spring in their step. Experience and BB know how makes up a lot of ground.
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10/26/2012  4:21 PM
nixluva - there was a report that while in Boston, Sheed was distracted by the failing health of his Mom, who he loves dearly. He lost interest. Sometimes, time away can remind one how much you miss something you have done all your life. Rasheed spoke to this.

Absolutely, he knows how to play and any minutes he can provide for our frontcourt, suddenly less deep with Amar'e limping, is a bonus.

6'11 is still 6'11

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10/26/2012  5:33 PM
misterearl wrote:nixluva - there was a report that while in Boston, Sheed was distracted by the failing health of his Mom, who he loves dearly. He lost interest. Sometimes, time away can remind one how much you miss something you have done all your life. Rasheed spoke to this.

Absolutely, he knows how to play and any minutes he can provide for our frontcourt, suddenly less deep with Amar'e limping, is a bonus.

6'11 is still 6'11

I agree. I think too much is made of this age thing. Bigs have notoriously been effective in later years and IMO it's mostly about how they take care of themselves and their level of skill. If you relied on pure athletic ability then surely you won't be as effective later in life, but if you have actual BB skills then you can keep being effective even after you lost your hops or top speed. As many NBA players have proven you don't need supreme athletic ability in order to be successful in the NBA. Zach Randolph posts and rebounds barely getting off the ground!!! Larry Bird wasn't the greatest physical specimen. There's just more to it than that. Vets like KG who uses his head and skills far more than his athletic prowess prove that. Same goes for Nash and a few other vets in the game. Like you said you can't teach 6-11.

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10/26/2012  5:38 PM
nixluva wrote:
misterearl wrote:nixluva - there was a report that while in Boston, Sheed was distracted by the failing health of his Mom, who he loves dearly. He lost interest. Sometimes, time away can remind one how much you miss something you have done all your life. Rasheed spoke to this.

Absolutely, he knows how to play and any minutes he can provide for our frontcourt, suddenly less deep with Amar'e limping, is a bonus.

6'11 is still 6'11

I agree. I think too much is made of this age thing. Bigs have notoriously been effective in later years and IMO it's mostly about how they take care of themselves and their level of skill. If you relied on pure athletic ability then surely you won't be as effective later in life, but if you have actual BB skills then you can keep being effective even after you lost your hops or top speed. As many NBA players have proven you don't need supreme athletic ability in order to be successful in the NBA. Zach Randolph posts and rebounds barely getting off the ground!!! Larry Bird wasn't the greatest physical specimen. There's just more to it than that. Vets like KG who uses his head and skills far more than his athletic prowess prove that. Same goes for Nash and a few other vets in the game. Like you said you can't teach 6-11.

You can teach 6'11 but you can't stop father time from getting to you either.

There is a reason why there are so few 6'11 40+ y/o players in the league.

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10/26/2012  7:42 PM
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You can teach 6'11 but you can't stop father time from getting to you either.

There is a reason why there are so few 6'11 40+ y/o players in the league.

mKS - Absolutely, we may need to brace ourselves for a worst case scenario with Amar'e, but that's the way the cartilage crumbles.
... the good news is that Mike Woodson is not asking Sheed to carry a heavy load.

Just 15 good minutes will be a huge lift to the JKidd Shiftline

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10/27/2012  8:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2012  8:00 AM
Not Kneed

“I thought Rasheed looked pretty good,Woodson said. “I think he’s going to be fine. He has to get in a little more game shape, and that’s expected.”

“I think he’s excited about being back on the floor. I’m going to try to put him in the best position possible to help our ball club. We’re not forcing the action. He still has to show he can help us.”

Wallace has not given Woodson and the Knicks a lot to evaluate since then, but it is becoming more apparent they will need him on the court sooner than they imagined. - Nate Taylor

Anyone else (besides Mike Woodson) feel the need... for Sheed?

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10/27/2012  9:02 AM
misterearl wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
You can teach 6'11 but you can't stop father time from getting to you either.

There is a reason why there are so few 6'11 40+ y/o players in the league.

mKS - Absolutely, we may need to brace ourselves for a worst case scenario with Amar'e, but that's the way the cartilage crumbles.
... the good news is that Mike Woodson is not asking Sheed to carry a heavy load.

Just 15 good minutes will be a huge lift to the JKidd Shiftline


Without Amare we are in trouble. We'll need Rasheed, and also Copeland. And it is now Melo's chance to step up and lead the team.
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