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How Linsanity disrupted Carmelo Anthony's long-term vision in New York
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martin
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7/20/2012  3:47 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
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In a league where the essence of trading is matching salaries, Lin's salary was nearly unmatchable for New York. That won't be as true for the Rockets, however. In another CBA wrinkle, for trade purposes, Lin's salary, on the Rockets or any other team, is averaged over the contract. If the Rockets want to trade Lin, his annual salary counts as $8.4 million at any time, making him that much less of a risk.

To Knicks fans, both the huge tax bill and the trade restrictions feel unfair. The two teams appeared to have the least level playing field imaginable in pursuing Lin.

Wow! so the new phucked up CBA makes it easier on other teams to a acquire a player then its own team? That is completely messed up.

not really. It's just that Lin was a super exception AND the Knicks were already over the cap. How many 2rd round picks get signed to their max?

Not many, but very possible. And, that implies that if a team gets lucky on a second rounder other teams can steal the player due to the poison pill and better positioning in the poison pill year?

dude, haven't you been paying attention at all during this whole Lin business?

poison pill happens if the original team is way over cap, but that team can still match.

The luxury tax happens whenever a team is over a certain threshold, 2nd round pick or RFA 1st round pick or whatever.

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7/20/2012  3:54 PM
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
In a league where the essence of trading is matching salaries, Lin's salary was nearly unmatchable for New York. That won't be as true for the Rockets, however. In another CBA wrinkle, for trade purposes, Lin's salary, on the Rockets or any other team, is averaged over the contract. If the Rockets want to trade Lin, his annual salary counts as $8.4 million at any time, making him that much less of a risk.

To Knicks fans, both the huge tax bill and the trade restrictions feel unfair. The two teams appeared to have the least level playing field imaginable in pursuing Lin.

Wow! so the new phucked up CBA makes it easier on other teams to a acquire a player then its own team? That is completely messed up.

not really. It's just that Lin was a super exception AND the Knicks were already over the cap. How many 2rd round picks get signed to their max?

Not many, but very possible. And, that implies that if a team gets lucky on a second rounder other teams can steal the player due to the poison pill and better positioning in the poison pill year?

dude, haven't you been paying attention at all during this whole Lin business?

poison pill happens if the original team is way over cap, but that team can still match.

The luxury tax happens whenever a team is over a certain threshold, 2nd round pick or RFA 1st round pick or whatever.

Yes I perfectly understand that.

What I did not understand is how the new signing team can spread the contract evenly while specifically intending for a unbearable tax burden on the original team (if they are over the threshold). The knicks could not match for 8.4 evenly over the 3 years, but houston can spread it out? Do I understand this wrong?

martin
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7/20/2012  4:11 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
martin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
In a league where the essence of trading is matching salaries, Lin's salary was nearly unmatchable for New York. That won't be as true for the Rockets, however. In another CBA wrinkle, for trade purposes, Lin's salary, on the Rockets or any other team, is averaged over the contract. If the Rockets want to trade Lin, his annual salary counts as $8.4 million at any time, making him that much less of a risk.

To Knicks fans, both the huge tax bill and the trade restrictions feel unfair. The two teams appeared to have the least level playing field imaginable in pursuing Lin.

Wow! so the new phucked up CBA makes it easier on other teams to a acquire a player then its own team? That is completely messed up.

not really. It's just that Lin was a super exception AND the Knicks were already over the cap. How many 2rd round picks get signed to their max?

Not many, but very possible. And, that implies that if a team gets lucky on a second rounder other teams can steal the player due to the poison pill and better positioning in the poison pill year?

dude, haven't you been paying attention at all during this whole Lin business?

poison pill happens if the original team is way over cap, but that team can still match.

The luxury tax happens whenever a team is over a certain threshold, 2nd round pick or RFA 1st round pick or whatever.

Yes I perfectly understand that.

What I did not understand is how the new signing team can spread the contract evenly while specifically intending for a unbearable tax burden on the original team (if they are over the threshold). The knicks could not match for 8.4 evenly over the 3 years, but houston can spread it out? Do I understand this wrong?

I do believe that is the Gilbert provision. Been in the books for a long time I think. See how often it occurs? Once about every 8 years.

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7/20/2012  4:54 PM
I did not know this was part of the Gilbert Arenas provision. I just read it and it is part of it. Seems like a silly loophole.
VDesai
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7/20/2012  8:21 PM
Like I've said, this is all Melobury. The same episode playing itself out again. Melo comes here, becomes chummy with Dolan and starts pulling his strings. He's gotten one coach fired, pushed out a GM (Layden didn't pull the trigger on the Marbs deal and was eventually replaced by someone who would...Walsh didn't want to pull the trigger and eventually left for having been forced to do so). We're already seeing certain players who don't "fit" get pushed out.

There is no commitment to winning here, only commitment to egos. Melo will last a little longer as long as he doesn't go insane and implode on the public stage. Or not force any interns into a truck...

How Linsanity disrupted Carmelo Anthony's long-term vision in New York

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