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BasketballJones
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7/17/2012  10:06 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Thanks Bip. We really needed another Jeremy Lin thread. Just another example of how desperate for attention you are.


He's not concerned about attention, but is jealous of your inflated post total... just like JR Smith is jealous of what Lin will be getting.

Post-count envy, eh? That's probably it.

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Paladin55
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7/17/2012  10:20 PM
Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

I think Lin will end up being a good player- but the things he can do are not a good fit with our roster and offensive philosophy.

Lin became a bad fit when MDA left and Woodson became coach. It is obvious that a system which revolves around Anthony is not a good system for a player like Lin.

I was actually surprised when we went after Nash. Why would you go after a player who made his name playing in a system that was rejected by your star player and your new coach? Made no sense to me. I assume that Nash is good enough to adapt to any system, just as he will do in LA, but why go after a guy who would not be a perfect fit in your system?

And why go after Nash if you thought Lin was worthy of 30+ MPG. Nash was not coming here to play less than 30-35 MPG, and you know Lin does not want to be a back-up at this point.

I have to think there was a split over Lin within the Knicks' brain trust- one which is ongoing.

This is a very flawed Knicks roster, and with Lin's departure, a lot less interesting to follow.

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BasketballJones
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7/17/2012  10:22 PM
Paladin55 wrote:I think Lin will end up being a good player- but the things he can do are not a good fit with our roster and offensive philosophy.

Lin became a bad fit when MDA left and Woodson became coach. It is obvious that a system which revolves around Anthony is not a good system for a player like Lin.

I was actually surprised when we went after Nash. Why would you go after a player who made his name playing in a system that was rejected by your star player and your new coach? Made no sense to me. I assume that Nash is good enough to adapt to any system, just as he will do in LA, but why go after a guy who would not be a perfect fit in your system?

And why go after Nash if you thought Lin was worthy of 30+ MPG. Nash was not coming here to play less than 30-35 MPG, and you know Lin does not want to be a back-up at this point.

I have to think there was a split over Lin within the Knicks' brain trust- one which is ongoing.

This is a very flawed Knicks roster, and with Lin's departure, a lot less interesting to follow.

Depends on whether Kidd continues to drive himself around or not.

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7/17/2012  10:35 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:I think Lin will end up being a good player- but the things he can do are not a good fit with our roster and offensive philosophy.

Lin became a bad fit when MDA left and Woodson became coach. It is obvious that a system which revolves around Anthony is not a good system for a player like Lin.

I was actually surprised when we went after Nash. Why would you go after a player who made his name playing in a system that was rejected by your star player and your new coach? Made no sense to me. I assume that Nash is good enough to adapt to any system, just as he will do in LA, but why go after a guy who would not be a perfect fit in your system?

And why go after Nash if you thought Lin was worthy of 30+ MPG. Nash was not coming here to play less than 30-35 MPG, and you know Lin does not want to be a back-up at this point.

I have to think there was a split over Lin within the Knicks' brain trust- one which is ongoing.

This is a very flawed Knicks roster, and with Lin's departure, a lot less interesting to follow.

Depends on whether Kidd continues to drive himself around or not.


There is talk of a new app which will instantly display Kidd's blood alcohol content the night before a game. Some Vegas folks are asking for it.
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7/17/2012  10:39 PM
Bip, no matter how you look at it, this is a bad move to let him walk. It was a personal and emotional decision b/c poor Dolan was mad that evil Lin went out and got some more money, as if that was a shocker. What, Dolan is allowed to rob us of our money with those insane cable bills but Lin can't go get his? Gimme a break.

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BasketballJones
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7/17/2012  11:31 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:I think Lin will end up being a good player- but the things he can do are not a good fit with our roster and offensive philosophy.

Lin became a bad fit when MDA left and Woodson became coach. It is obvious that a system which revolves around Anthony is not a good system for a player like Lin.

I was actually surprised when we went after Nash. Why would you go after a player who made his name playing in a system that was rejected by your star player and your new coach? Made no sense to me. I assume that Nash is good enough to adapt to any system, just as he will do in LA, but why go after a guy who would not be a perfect fit in your system?

And why go after Nash if you thought Lin was worthy of 30+ MPG. Nash was not coming here to play less than 30-35 MPG, and you know Lin does not want to be a back-up at this point.

I have to think there was a split over Lin within the Knicks' brain trust- one which is ongoing.

This is a very flawed Knicks roster, and with Lin's departure, a lot less interesting to follow.

Depends on whether Kidd continues to drive himself around or not.


There is talk of a new app which will instantly display Kidd's blood alcohol content the night before a game. Some Vegas folks are asking for it.

I think it will be a hit on Intrade as well.

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7/18/2012  6:09 AM
Bippity10 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:bip we let 2nd rnd picks go that will more then likely be in the late 40's..

They are still assets. Again, we let gadzurics contract go, 3 picks, Jeffries (a big part of last years turnaround), a guy who led our turnaround and helped to resurrected our season. In return we get a 40 year old role player and aguy who consistently comes to camp overweight and whose team could not wait to get rid of him. Good ROI?

As constituted are we better than Miami? If not, what's the next move to get better? We all know what it is. Shumpert and more picks. If that doesn't create a title contender we are right back to the Shanvis eisleyspoon era. Trapped with no assets. You must use your assets for good not evil!

Gotta be honest. I am gonna miss Jefferies, but if we got a roster spot left I am signing his younger, healthier, better shooting cousin Shawnee Williams back for the vet minimum. He is still out there, he is a versatile defender, can hit the three, and is more importantly cheap. A frontline with Camby, Chandler, Shawne is pretty water tight.

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7/18/2012  6:42 AM
loweyecue wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:bip we let 2nd rnd picks go that will more then likely be in the late 40's..

They are still assets. Again, we let gadzurics contract go, 3 picks, Jeffries (a big part of last years turnaround), a guy who led our turnaround and helped to resurrected our season. In return we get a 40 year old role player and aguy who consistently comes to camp overweight and whose team could not wait to get rid of him. Good ROI?

As constituted are we better than Miami? If not, what's the next move to get better? We all know what it is. Shumpert and more picks. If that doesn't create a title contender we are right back to the Shanvis eisleyspoon era. Trapped with no assets. You must use your assets for good not evil!

We also used all our available money to sign Jason Kidd so he could mentor ....... Oh wait.

I'm sure Kidd is thrilled he can mentor Ray Felton. THRILLED

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7/18/2012  9:07 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

I think Lin will end up being a good player- but the things he can do are not a good fit with our roster and offensive philosophy.

Lin became a bad fit when MDA left and Woodson became coach. It is obvious that a system which revolves around Anthony is not a good system for a player like Lin.

I was actually surprised when we went after Nash. Why would you go after a player who made his name playing in a system that was rejected by your star player and your new coach? Made no sense to me. I assume that Nash is good enough to adapt to any system, just as he will do in LA, but why go after a guy who would not be a perfect fit in your system?

And why go after Nash if you thought Lin was worthy of 30+ MPG. Nash was not coming here to play less than 30-35 MPG, and you know Lin does not want to be a back-up at this point.

I have to think there was a split over Lin within the Knicks' brain trust- one which is ongoing.

This is a very flawed Knicks roster, and with Lin's departure, a lot less interesting to follow.

We are all focusing way to much on who is better Lin or Felton. Who fits better Lin or Felton. It's a diversion to get us off the true topic. We let a 23 year old PG with potential (and in high demand) go, and got nothing in return. Who our PG is, is not as important as why we let an asset go for nothing and also gave up 3 picks, a rotation player and 3 million dollar salary and in return got a 40 year old and a PG whose team was trying to get rid of him. Whether Felton is better than Lin is not an issue for me. It'st eh dumping of assets by a team that was an 8th seed and just got slaughtered by the eventual champs.

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7/18/2012  9:10 AM
When Shumpert's contract is up. Say he wants to test the market. Are you okay with us just letting him walk?
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7/18/2012  9:14 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

I think Lin will end up being a good player- but the things he can do are not a good fit with our roster and offensive philosophy.

Lin became a bad fit when MDA left and Woodson became coach. It is obvious that a system which revolves around Anthony is not a good system for a player like Lin.

I was actually surprised when we went after Nash. Why would you go after a player who made his name playing in a system that was rejected by your star player and your new coach? Made no sense to me. I assume that Nash is good enough to adapt to any system, just as he will do in LA, but why go after a guy who would not be a perfect fit in your system?

And why go after Nash if you thought Lin was worthy of 30+ MPG. Nash was not coming here to play less than 30-35 MPG, and you know Lin does not want to be a back-up at this point.

I have to think there was a split over Lin within the Knicks' brain trust- one which is ongoing.

This is a very flawed Knicks roster, and with Lin's departure, a lot less interesting to follow.

Woodson ran the same plays MDA ran for the most part, and as much as we saw melo ball, he avg close to 5.5 ast with 1 triple double with out lin..

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