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CrushAlot
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7/16/2012  10:14 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Lin was an economics major and graduated from Harvard. He fired his agent and signed on with a shark. He recognized that this might be his one huge contract in the nba and he went all in. He was smart enough to sign with a new agent. Do you think he had a momentary lapse in judgement and didn't recognize that the revised version of his contract would be prohibitive because of the cap for the Knicks to sign him? Lin was looking out for Lin as he should. Switching team allegiance because the team you root for didn't want to get crushed by a contract for a guy coming off a menisus injury and a 25 game good stretch seems a bit dramatic in my opinion.

How are the Knickis crushed by any contract? you dont get it--Lin is making 5mm per the next two years--a very reasonable contract. If he plays anywhere near the level he was playing he would be drastically underpaid. On top of that other teams apparently like Lin--one team willing to give him the 14.8 for yr 3. That meaans is a very tradeable asset as well. Who can base their business 3 yeras from now in basketball? Anything can happen--that third year means nothing--its excuse and stupidity. This is about Dolan and Melo ego time

Dolan Melo ego time sounds like a response based in emotion and not one by someone that 'gets it'. I am not a cba expert and if you are suggesting the Knicks sign Lin with the intent of trading him before they take the cap hit that certainly is a reasonable option. Hahn spoke yesterday explaining the ramifications of the third yeasr of Lin's contract the Knicks would have to pay 3.50 for every dollar over they are over the cap. I believe they alos are not allowed to do sign and trades and there are other restrictions. The point of my post was that Lin and the Rockets changed the original contract to have a third year that makes it very difficult for even the Knicks to match. I think Lin is too smart not to be aware of what the third year of the new deal might mean.
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7/16/2012  10:35 AM
nyk4ever wrote:what does melo have to do with lin? melo is the one who pushed d'antoni to play lin and melo is the one who went out to dinner with lin 2 weeks ago. if anyone says melo doesn't want lin back they are just making **** up.

don't try and talk sense to the Lin-ofiles. The Man love is epic and they can't see reality. They would likely give up their own children for a chance to see him play. Fake ass Knicks fans saying they won't follow the Knicks anymore. They won't be missed at all.

Melo had said all the right, things. In games they played together I saw nothing but comradery. To say or suggest Melo doesn't want him or that Melo doesn't like him is just making crap up.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/16/2012  10:37 AM
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DurzoBlint wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I'm not going to say I'd be done with the Knicks but my excitement level would really drop. I probably won't be investing much time on another mediocre to subpar Knicks team that will never win a ring or develop championship talent. I would never root for the Nets thats for sure

what makes you think Lin would have made us drastically better than we are now. Felton played really well for us and will likely be enthused by a return to the Garden. Houston was the wrong place for him. I'm not sold on his fit for this team as it is. Did he make the game easier for Amare or anyone other than Novak because that is a point guards job. His greatest attribute was getting his own points.

Not saying Felton is better than him but, he will be more than capable of running the show. His PnR skills improved as the year wen along and he showed that he's a good defender. Better than Lin. Having Felton and Shump in the back court is a defensively superior back court.

Check felton's career without Dantoni. Couldn't even stay on the court under Larry Brown and was an atrocity in Denver & Portland

Larry Brown was too busy trying to broker back-door deal instead of working with the roster he had. There is a good reason he lost the arbitration case. Felton played well under D'Antoni and many were sad to see him go. He was not reviled during his tenure in New York. Not at all.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/16/2012  10:38 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I'm not going to say I'd be done with the Knicks but my excitement level would really drop. I probably won't be investing much time on another mediocre to subpar Knicks team that will never win a ring or develop championship talent. I would never root for the Nets thats for sure

what makes you think Lin would have made us drastically better than we are now. Felton played really well for us and will likely be enthused by a return to the Garden. Houston was the wrong place for him. I'm not sold on his fit for this team as it is. Did he make the game easier for Amare or anyone other than Novak because that is a point guards job. His greatest attribute was getting his own points.

Not saying Felton is better than him but, he will be more than capable of running the show. His PnR skills improved as the year wen along and he showed that he's a good defender. Better than Lin. Having Felton and Shump in the back court is a defensively superior back court.

Check felton's career without Dantoni. Couldn't even stay on the court under Larry Brown and was an atrocity in Denver & Portland

Felton's career numbers without MDA are pretty much on par with what Lin did without MDA under Woody.

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7/16/2012  10:41 AM
Woodson doesn't exactly run an offense. Dump the ball into isolations and if the shooter is open hit em?!

There are a few teams without point guards. Toronto was interested and clearly Houston is. Dolan has ****ed the fans over for years, so I don't see what the harm is in bringing him back and trading him. He's got enough talent around him to not be the focal point of teams defenses so he still should be able to get 7-8 assists a game and 14pts. Melo isn't exactly producing that many wins for his contract, yes giving lin that kind of money is a joke, but so are the Knicks. If you want to win you need as much talent as possible and if the Knicks can attack with Lin, Felton, Kidd splitting time between the guard spots why not

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7/16/2012  10:50 AM
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

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7/16/2012  10:56 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/16/2012  10:59 AM
MinsHeartsReezy wrote:Seriously, back off that ledge...it'll be ok.

Instead of getting distraught over rumors and speculation...maybe hold on until they've actually let him go. Or better yet...wait until summer and training camp is over and they actually start playing next season. It's hard to predict how good or bad a team will be on paper...and they're not even done assembling the team yet. And as of now...we don't know if Lin will or will not be a Knick. I get your frustration though about trading away the youngins...and I think it's clear we're no longer in a situation where we are going to invest in developing young talents or rebuilding in that way. It's not something that will ever work in NY.

Does it suck that we always seem to have to give up more in trades than what we get back? Yes.
But it seems they actually have a direction now and a team with a lot of experience, albeit older. Why not see it through before throwing in the towel. Lin is an exciting player we all clearly love the guy but all he is at this point in time is a gamble. Ultimately there is nothing wrong with being a fan of the Knicks and being a fan of Lin wherever he plays.
The only real remedy to this kind of situation in the end is winning. If we win, everything will work itself out. If we continue losing, then feel free to plant that white flag. But you wont know until they actually play again.

That is entirely too reasonable. A better solution is to freak out, respond to each and every article in the Post, draw conclusions based upon incomplete information, misrepresent the situation and goad each other into a frothing fit of hate and rage. That is our way....

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7/16/2012  11:22 AM
Guys are acting like he's Chris Paul. Dude wasn't the greatest floor General. Other than Novak, who did he make better, which is a point guard job. Was very good at getting his own shot though.
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/16/2012  11:51 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

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7/16/2012  11:53 AM
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

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7/16/2012  11:56 AM
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

The pride is for the team, not the owner. The owner, for the 15th bazillionth time, is not the team. If you want to root for an owner, like I said, Cuban's a fun guy. He's loud, brash, attends every game and ticks off the refs and the league.

Go have fun.

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7/16/2012  11:58 AM
jrodmc wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

The pride is for the team, not the owner. The owner, for the 15th bazillionth time, is not the team. If you want to root for an owner, like I said, Cuban's a fun guy. He's loud, brash, attends every game and ticks off the refs and the league.

Go have fun.


How can you separate supporting the owner from supporting the team? Every penny you support the team with is a penny you're supporting Dolan with. This looks just like a convenient psychological dissociation on your part.
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7/16/2012  12:01 PM
jrodmc wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

The pride is for the team, not the owner. The owner, for the 15th bazillionth time, is not the team. If you want to root for an owner, like I said, Cuban's a fun guy. He's loud, brash, attends every game and ticks off the refs and the league.

Go have fun.

I'm not rooting for the owner. I'm sick of the owner tearing apart the team I love and I just am not too excited about doing it anymore. I can't see myself rooting for any other team than the Knicks. I just see myself being a lot less interested.

Gallo was hard to lose, but we got Melo so it made basketball sense at least. Camby was hard to lose and it took me a while to get over that stupidity, but at least the McDyess deal would've made sense if Dyess stayed healthy. I didn't think he would and I didn't like it, but I got it.

Losing Lin for NOTHING makes no sense whatsoever.

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7/16/2012  12:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2012  12:18 PM
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

The pride is for the team, not the owner. The owner, for the 15th bazillionth time, is not the team. If you want to root for an owner, like I said, Cuban's a fun guy. He's loud, brash, attends every game and ticks off the refs and the league.

Go have fun.

I'm not rooting for the owner. I'm sick of the owner tearing apart the team I love and I just am not too excited about doing it anymore. I can't see myself rooting for any other team than the Knicks. I just see myself being a lot less interested.

Gallo was hard to lose, but we got Melo so it made basketball sense at least. Camby was hard to lose and it took me a while to get over that stupidity, but at least the McDyess deal would've made sense if Dyess stayed healthy. I didn't think he would and I didn't like it, but I got it.

Losing Lin for NOTHING makes no sense whatsoever.

agree with everything you just said. Sums up my feelings to a tee. Good points on camby & gallo trades

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7/16/2012  12:10 PM
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

Yeah, because he was talking about being a Dolans Fan. Right.

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7/16/2012  12:12 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

The pride is for the team, not the owner. The owner, for the 15th bazillionth time, is not the team. If you want to root for an owner, like I said, Cuban's a fun guy. He's loud, brash, attends every game and ticks off the refs and the league.

Go have fun.


How can you separate supporting the owner from supporting the team? Every penny you support the team with is a penny you're supporting Dolan with. This looks just like a convenient psychological dissociation on your part.

First of all, the GM, the owners, the players can all change, but the team remains, doesn't it? I don't know or care who owned the team in 1969 and although I can complain about our current idiot owner and some of the people he hires/listens to (like IT), his actions/inactions don't make me want to change team allegiances. Is that psycho babble talking?

Every penny I spent on a Clyde Ewing BK Spree Starbles jersey was money well spent. Do you really care that much about your pennies? Or Dolans? Or any other owner's, who, by the way, doesn't give two rat's sh-ts about yours?

How do you watch a Knicks game and not worry about the franchise's balance sheet? How did you use to watch Gallo's jumpers without thinking "My God, what's our 2017 luxury tax forecast look like?" "Oh sh-it, we have Melo and luxury box seats and hot dog prices are going up!"

Somebody didn't get to play catch with dad too much when they were little, huh?

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7/16/2012  1:22 PM
jrodmc wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

The pride is for the team, not the owner. The owner, for the 15th bazillionth time, is not the team. If you want to root for an owner, like I said, Cuban's a fun guy. He's loud, brash, attends every game and ticks off the refs and the league.

Go have fun.


... And what exactly is a "team." The reason I prefer the NFL is that you have a core of players you can identify as your "team," and you can actually watch young players develop (or fail to develop). To some extend MLB is similar, although FA and the lack of a cap are a problem, IMO. I invest my time as a fan in watching the players who are the "team," and over the years the Knicks have given me fewer and fewer reasons to invest my time in following them because the ownership does not seem to want to give you an opportunity to watch young players grow and mature.

The discontinuity of our roster over the years is maddening if you actually care about the players who make up your "team." To be honest, I would rather be a good team that never makes it all the way, than a team like Miami, which did what it did to acquire James, Bosh, and Wade. And if the Knicks were to somehow end up with the 5 best players in their respective positions because of the kind of thing Miami did, I would not be rooting for them to win. I would rather see my team grow and emerge than do the kind of thing the Yankees have been known for over the years. It would be like going crazy for the NBA Olympic team's defeat of some minor nation where nobody players BB.

We have two players from the 2010-11 team (I'm not counting Felton since he was traded that year)who are now playing on the Knicks.
We have 0 players from the 2009-10 team now playing with the Knicks. In my eyes, this sucks, and makes the Knicks much less watchable, and any success we do have, much less enjoyable.

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7/16/2012  1:37 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

The pride is for the team, not the owner. The owner, for the 15th bazillionth time, is not the team. If you want to root for an owner, like I said, Cuban's a fun guy. He's loud, brash, attends every game and ticks off the refs and the league.

Go have fun.


... And what exactly is a "team." The reason I prefer the NFL is that you have a core of players you can identify as your "team," and you can actually watch young players develop (or fail to develop). To some extend MLB is similar, although FA and the lack of a cap are a problem, IMO. I invest my time as a fan in watching the players who are the "team," and over the years the Knicks have given me fewer and fewer reasons to invest my time in following them because the ownership does not seem to want to give you an opportunity to watch young players grow and mature.

The discontinuity of our roster over the years is maddening if you actually care about the players who make up your "team." To be honest, I would rather be a good team that never makes it all the way, than a team like Miami, which did what it did to acquire James, Bosh, and Wade. And if the Knicks were to somehow end up with the 5 best players in their respective positions because of the kind of thing Miami did, I would not be rooting for them to win. I would rather see my team grow and emerge than do the kind of thing the Yankees have been known for over the years. It would be like going crazy for the NBA Olympic team's defeat of some minor nation where nobody players BB.

We have two players from the 2010-11 team (I'm not counting Felton since he was traded that year)who are now playing on the Knicks.
We have 0 players from the 2009-10 team now playing with the Knicks. In my eyes, this sucks, and makes the Knicks much less watchable, and any success we do have, much less enjoyable.

If this is your approach to being a team fanatic, then I would suggest, IMHO, that you invest your time watching minor league sports. Watch college basketball. In those places, you can get all the young player developing/flopping you want, almost completely unrestricted by the business that the NBA has become. Really great players leaving the shangri-la of development for dollars aside. Watch pitchers develop; I hear it sometimes takes a decade in the minors. Sounds like fun.

A "team" in this context, is a particular NBA franchise. For whatever reason, be it geography, genetics or just hating on siblings' choices of allegiance, some of us have been following said "team" since the '60's. Hell, hail or high water. There have been forgettable decades, forgettable players, coaches and GM's. There have been chips, playoffs, rivalries, drama, stupidity and boredom. Era's have come and gone. Frazier for Jim Cleamons made me wanna puke. Watching BK waste the rest of his career somewhere else did the same, as did trading Ewing away for garbage and trading Spree for nothing and letting IT run my team into a septic tank.

I don't think the question is what is "team". It's what exactly is a "fan"?

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7/16/2012  2:18 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Anji wrote:Bookmarked


The Butt hurt right now is epic.

LOL

I'll bookmark this for when people look back in two years as letting Lin as one of the worst decisions since trading Camby and Nene for Dyess.

Why did that trade happen? Oh yeah, because Dolan didn't like Camby. Now Lin hurt his feelings.

I'm sick of rooting for the whims of an alcoholic jazz guitarist.

Bah Bye

I hear there's a line for deranged dot.com billionaire chip team deconstructor genius wannabe groupies. Go to OKC, turn left (wistfully) and stop somewhere before you get the Rio Grande. Dirk's jersey will look really good on you. If that doesn't work out, you can wander around the state in a heat-induced (hey, there's another team you can possibly defect to) daze until you find an owner worthy of your rooting.

I love the pride you guys have for Dolan. It's sweet. Weird. But sweet.

The pride is for the team, not the owner. The owner, for the 15th bazillionth time, is not the team. If you want to root for an owner, like I said, Cuban's a fun guy. He's loud, brash, attends every game and ticks off the refs and the league.

Go have fun.


How can you separate supporting the owner from supporting the team? Every penny you support the team with is a penny you're supporting Dolan with. This looks just like a convenient psychological dissociation on your part.

First of all, the GM, the owners, the players can all change, but the team remains, doesn't it? I don't know or care who owned the team in 1969 and although I can complain about our current idiot owner and some of the people he hires/listens to (like IT), his actions/inactions don't make me want to change team allegiances. Is that psycho babble talking?

Every penny I spent on a Clyde Ewing BK Spree Starbles jersey was money well spent. Do you really care that much about your pennies? Or Dolans? Or any other owner's, who, by the way, doesn't give two rat's sh-ts about yours?

How do you watch a Knicks game and not worry about the franchise's balance sheet? How did you use to watch Gallo's jumpers without thinking "My God, what's our 2017 luxury tax forecast look like?" "Oh sh-it, we have Melo and luxury box seats and hot dog prices are going up!"

Somebody didn't get to play catch with dad too much when they were little, huh?

best post I have real all day. Excellent

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
If the Knicks let Lin go, I might be done.

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