ChuckBuck wrote:I want to see Amare work on his goddam game like he's supposed to. Look at Melo, already working on adding the "Dirk" fadeaway:

fishmike wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:I want to see Amare work on his goddam game like he's supposed to. Look at Melo, already working on adding the "Dirk" fadeaway:

yea... cause we want to see Melo taking more fade away jumpers. Every opposing team is begging him to take those shots. Crap

Yes, because God forbid adding to your repertoire is bad for you game. If Amare doesn't add at least one pivot move this summer instead of that bull**** charge he does every other time, he and the Knicks are as good as toast.

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Moonangie wrote:

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Moonangie wrote:I agree with both sides this time. Stat was off his game last season for many reasons. I believe he will bounce back. Youdon't just lose your mid-range game. Injuries, lack of PG play, Melo on constant ISOs, Chandler in the lane...

BUT, he showed a serious lack of professionalism on the defensive side, lack of hustle, lack of interest in boxing out or rebounding. So his words ring very hollow to me right now. If he brings more of that Shyte this season, he's a chump.

I hope he steps up and matches his words with some action.

good post. i think amar'e will be better on the floor this season... but i've also lost a lot of faith in him as a team leader or even as a team player.

wow.. dude's brother gets killed and he cant move his back and people think he's unproffesional because his effort and focus were not consistant. Please people.... wake up. I can only image how your (your meaning anyone reading this, not directed at crzy) work performance may suffer after burying your brother and dealing with the pain of an injury. You know whats professional? Showing up to work everyday and giving what you can give. Thats whats professional.

Hey Chuckbuck... Amare is 18 months older than Melo. The guy is an elite player his whole career and has one off year and people want him gone, meanwhile the same guys ride the jock of our other star who 1) quit and addmitted to quitting on his coach and team 2) hasnt changed the winning % of the roster 3) is a 46% career scorer (pedestrian) vs. a 54% career scorer (elite)

I love how people cry about loyalty and players should take less money etc, then when a guy who's been a stud his whole career has an off year they want him waived, amnestied, taken out back... you get the idea. Boy the internet brings out the best in everyone.

I hear you, Mike. But I also watched the games. Stat ain't no damn excuse maker. Yes, it stung to lose his brother the way he did. Yes he was injured. But what I watched on defense made me bitter toward Stat because he clearly didn't try at all. He just let it go.

If you are a Knickerbocker and you can't bring it every game, sit your grieving ass down and let someone else get it done. We are in this to win, not to sob. I sympathize with his issues and I wish him the best. But I EXPECT him to show up on the wood and do what he's paid to do. If he can't, that's a bummer but it doesn't change anything.

No Excuses. Life doesn't stop for sports or for any of us. You gotta be able to roll with it come what may. It's tough sometimes, but men don't sit around and feel sorry for themselves. They deal. And Stat is a man, or so I assume.

so when Melo refused to play hard in one of the NBA's best offensive scheme because it didnt suit his game and quit on the coach and his teammates did it give you the same bitterness?

Yes, but I also didn't like MDA all that much, so it had at least a net positive impact. But yes, it sucked.

RonRon wrote:

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Uptown wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:Not sure why people bash Amare. If memory serves, after Carmelo joined Amare AND Landry Fields started to play like crap. Why not blame the root cause?

When Amare had his run of 30+ points for that long stretch of games, he was playing center and was easily skating by slow footed centers who were either afraid to commit and if they did, he would blow by them. Chandler's presence has slowed Amares production way more than Melo has. But hey, we blame Melo for everything so why stop now....

I posted Amare's stats playing with Shaq. 21ppg on 56% shooting. Please explain how this was accomplished against the powerforwards of the WC. Please.

I can only speak for myself, but who is blaming Melo for anything? All Im talking about is Amare's value as a player, and when Amare and Melo are both healthy Amare is so far and clear the superior offensive player its not debateable. Its not, and never has been. Melo's FG% is league average. Amare's is among the elite scorers of our era or better.

Amare did not add many moves to his game and relies on athleticism, PG penetration *Nash is elite*, and his ability to DUNK.
At his age though, his best physical skills are behind him and will be declining, There are plenty of players in this draft that could do what Amare does but are younger/more athletic than he is now.

Moultrie *drafted by Heat and traded to Philly* and Perry Jones, are the younger more skilled versions of Amare.
They were both drafted in the end of the 1st round.
I am glad that Amare is taking this off season to improve and maybe he will return in better shape, but I still don't believe he fits in with the starting lineup.
I hope he is working on his foot speed, coordination, foot work, and ability to RUN, for offense and for defensive purposes.

Wouldn't be surprised if JJ is not signed and if so Amare will have to improve his foot speed/footwork and bring what JJ has done for us.
Between JJ and Camby, they both are injury prone and are not scoring threats, with our core being pretty old, going in another direction might be the best for both sides.
JJ could possibly be our last player we could use with Gadzuric's contract as well.

Perry jones more skilled than amare? Lol have u seen dude play. Still can't understand this hate for amare. All I know is amare with a full offseason and stability with some real point guards will be dominating a lot of scrubs this season.

nixluva wrote:STAT has had some BIGTIME playoff performances and if not for freak injuries last 2 years he likely would have been big in NY too! You can tell by how he was looking last year against Boston before the back injury. I expect STAT to have a bounce back year! HATERZ CAN SUCK IT!

Second this..as soon as season was over I was like if there is one guy who makes sure he has a monster season in 2012/2013 it will be Amare especially with healthy point guards. 100% confident he will be a beast.

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Moonangie wrote:I agree with both sides this time. Stat was off his game last season for many reasons. I believe he will bounce back. Youdon't just lose your mid-range game. Injuries, lack of PG play, Melo on constant ISOs, Chandler in the lane...

BUT, he showed a serious lack of professionalism on the defensive side, lack of hustle, lack of interest in boxing out or rebounding. So his words ring very hollow to me right now. If he brings more of that Shyte this season, he's a chump.

I hope he steps up and matches his words with some action.

This I can agree with because its a fair view of Amare. He did show lack of professionalism with his lack of effort, casper defense and then mental weakness with his playoffs showing. He has a lot to do in order to restore his image but the truth is he is actually one of the main reasons to be excited about the next season instead of the constant "lets trade him for a bag of ships" he's become here.

I was one of the fans that was so down on him in the playoffs I would've traded him for anything, but that was just anger. Truth is, he is one of our stars and a very important one because when motivated and well fed by a point guard, he is a real monster teams would love to have.

I just wish he can leave 2011 behind and come focused and ready to lead like he did in 2010.

helloharv wrote:Dear STAT -- I still believe in you !!! Prove all these haters wrong !!!

PS - please box out and pick it up a little on D

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