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Nalod
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5/13/2012  7:24 AM
If denver had Melo last nite they would have won!

StarGallo sucked last nite. Metta took care of him.

Denver is not rebuilding around Gallo.

Denver might have won if they had Wilson healthy.

Denver Needs a star.

Denver has reasons also.

The teams that don't advance, they got reasons.

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NUPE
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5/13/2012  7:50 AM
Both teams lost in the first round. Also, Mia is substantially better than the Lakers. This thread is dumb.
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5/13/2012  8:07 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/13/2012  8:08 AM
NUPE wrote:Both teams lost in the first round. Also, Mia is substantially better than the Lakers. This thread is dumb.

You're taking a conveniently myopic view. Despite being in the tougher conference, Denver has had the better:
-2010-11 post-trade finish to the regular season
-2011-12 regular season record
-playoff performances in 2011 and 2012

New York, in contrast, has had the better:
-nothing

Both teams have needs, no doubt. To address those needs, though, Denver has cap space, their own draft picks, and other teams' draft picks. We have the MLE, LLE, vet min, and a late 2nd round pick.

You can say the Nuggets had a better team pre-trade than the Knicks but their regular season records pre-trade were not that different. More importantly, I do not remember any of the trade supporters predicting after the trade that the Nuggets would be the superior team for the next 1 1/2 years. They were talking about how the Nuggets were screwed and we were a championship contending .700+ team. At least we have the most clutch player in the history of the game and a top big 3.

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5/13/2012  8:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/13/2012  8:19 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
NUPE wrote:Both teams lost in the first round. Also, Mia is substantially better than the Lakers. This thread is dumb.

You're taking a conveniently myopic view. Despite being in the tougher conference, Denver has had the better:
-2010-11 post-trade finish to the regular season
-2011-12 regular season record
-playoff performances in 2011 and 2012

New York, in contrast, has had the better:
-nothing

Both teams have needs, no doubt. To address those needs, though, Denver has cap space, their own draft picks, and other teams' draft picks. We have the MLE, LLE, vet min, and a late 2nd round pick.

You can say the Nuggets had a better team pre-trade than the Knicks but their regular season records pre-trade were not that different. More importantly, I do not remember any of the trade supporters predicting after the trade that the Nuggets would be the superior team for the next 1 1/2 years. They were talking about how the Nuggets were screwed and we were a championship contending .700+ team. At least we have the most clutch player in the history of the game and a top big 3.

One can argue that MDA was a hindrance which was reflected in our record on he resigned/got fired...Denver is a good and promising team, they have many players on the same talent plateau ..They might need to package a couple of players for a go to guy but Im more concerned about the Knicks..

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5/13/2012  8:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/13/2012  8:47 AM
One more thing, Denver won't have the salary flexibility that Bonn is touting going into next season....They will be adding Wil's and Gallo's salary to the mix along with having to sign McGee and maybe Fernandez which will put them close to if not over 60 mil where we are currently...Who has a bigger upside now?...

I'll do that trade again and again in a heartbeat...
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5/13/2012  9:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/13/2012  9:50 AM
holfresh wrote:One more thing, Denver won't have the salary flexibility that Bonn is touting going into next season....They will be adding Wil's and Gallo's salary to the mix along with having to sign McGee and maybe Fernandez which will put them close to if not over 60 mil where we are currently...Who has a bigger upside now?...

I'll do that trade again and again in a heartbeat...

Wouldn't it be great to have the flexibility to re-sign your own and/or other team's players instead of worrying about how many of your key players you'll be losing?
MDA was a hindrance? Please - no one predicted that when we got Melo or even last summer after having a few months to watch him and MDA together. Woodson was a hindrance in the playoffs too, right? And Karl was in Melo's final season in Denver.
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5/13/2012  10:43 AM
Apples and oranges........

Time will reveal the true winner of franchise's moving in different ways.

Its interesting but abstract to quantify who is better.

Both teams got what they wanted.

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5/13/2012  10:45 AM
Nalod wrote:Apples and oranges........

Time will reveal the true winner of franchise's moving in different ways.

Its interesting but abstract to quantify who is better.

Both teams got what they wanted.


"Time will tell" or "give it more time" is what the team that lost the trade always says. How many Nuggets fans do you think are saying it's unclear and a few more years are needed?
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5/13/2012  10:46 AM
stupid thread
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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5/13/2012  11:31 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Stargallo does not own Lebron or Kobe like Starmelo does.

StarGalloBury does not own anybody thats the problem.

Denver could have really used a go to scorer like all really good teams. Now that Melo is gone, who will be that guy? It certainly ain't the most overrated shooter in history StarGalloBurry.


Knicks fans telling Denver what they need? That's funny.

If you watched any Denver games and/or listened/read just about any article/commentary this would be obvious to you as it is to all

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5/13/2012  11:33 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:Why does StarGallo sit the bench in closing minutes? On the real what is his ceiling? What can he do to become great besides playing D?

The greatest Knick of all time, and future league MVP was battling his way to scoring 3 points on 1-9 shooting, grabbing 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 4 TO's.

Meanwhile, Mosgov, the greatest centre in the history of the game, scored 2 points and tore down 4 rebounds.

Wilson Chandler, was injured all series.

Raymond Felton was overweight and on another team that didn't make the playoffs.

Corey Brewer, the latest in a series of grossly over rated ex-knicks (who's level of talent and stature only seems to sky rocket when they are traded)( Blasted the Lakers for 4 points on 2-9 shooting, and landed 2 rebounds.

So what have we learned? Well, our own players- you knows, the ones that are actually on our team, are apparantly garbage every time they have a bad game or poor playoff showing. Meanwhile Gallo can have averages of 13.4 points 36.2% FG, 17.4% 3FG, 5 reb, 2 assists over 7 games, but gets a free pass and is still heralded as the greatest player ever.

And now even trash like Brewer and Jordan Hill are being touted as great losses. WTF?!?

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5/13/2012  11:34 AM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
NUPE wrote:Both teams lost in the first round. Also, Mia is substantially better than the Lakers. This thread is dumb.

You're taking a conveniently myopic view. Despite being in the tougher conference, Denver has had the better:
-2010-11 post-trade finish to the regular season
-2011-12 regular season record
-playoff performances in 2011 and 2012

New York, in contrast, has had the better:
-nothing

Both teams have needs, no doubt. To address those needs, though, Denver has cap space, their own draft picks, and other teams' draft picks. We have the MLE, LLE, vet min, and a late 2nd round pick.

You can say the Nuggets had a better team pre-trade than the Knicks but their regular season records pre-trade were not that different. More importantly, I do not remember any of the trade supporters predicting after the trade that the Nuggets would be the superior team for the next 1 1/2 years. They were talking about how the Nuggets were screwed and we were a championship contending .700+ team. At least we have the most clutch player in the history of the game and a top big 3.

One can argue that MDA was a hindrance which was reflected in our record on he resigned/got fired...Denver is a good and promising team, they have many players on the same talent plateau ..They might need to package a couple of players for a go to guy but Im more concerned about the Knicks..

One can argue? That is as obvious as it gets. 18-6! And mostly without a PG.

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5/13/2012  11:36 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Apples and oranges........

Time will reveal the true winner of franchise's moving in different ways.

Its interesting but abstract to quantify who is better.

Both teams got what they wanted.


"Time will tell" or "give it more time" is what the team that lost the trade always says. How many Nuggets fans do you think are saying it's unclear and a few more years are needed?

What kind of doctor are you??

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5/13/2012  8:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/13/2012  8:59 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Apples and oranges........

Time will reveal the true winner of franchise's moving in different ways.

Its interesting but abstract to quantify who is better.

Both teams got what they wanted.


"Time will tell" or "give it more time" is what the team that lost the trade always says. How many Nuggets fans do you think are saying it's unclear and a few more years are needed?

What kind of doctor are you??


Thankfully, not a juris doctor! You're probably gonna sue me soon.
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5/13/2012  9:17 PM
This is straight from Denver Stiffs, a great fan blog about the Nuggets:

But even with that heartbreaking loss fresh in our minds, there was much to be proud of and positive about this season. And just by taking the Lakers to seven games, the 2011-12 Nuggets leaped into the "favorite Nugget teams of all time" conversation, alongside those late-70s, mid-80s, 1993-94 and 2008-09 teams. Even better, with much of the 2011-12 roster under contract and due to come back next season, the future of Nuggets basketball is bright. The Nuggets core of Lawson, Afflalo, Gallinari, Faried, McGee and Chandler is a great starting place to build from or trade from, two scenarios that I'm sure Ujiri is looking at. Melo who?

I know we'll be spending the next few months pontificating about what the Nuggets "need to do" in the off-season. And it's a conversation I eagerly welcome. But for now, let's look back at the 2011-12 Nuggets and applaud management, the coaching staff and the players for delivering a fine season and post-season. The good guys - yet again - didn't finish first. But they put up a hell of a fight trying to.

Go Nuggets!!

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2012/5/13/3017957/a-eulogy-for-the-2011-12-denver-nuggets-season

They don't seem that worried about their future, do they?

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5/13/2012  9:24 PM
One and done. Case closed. Nothing to talk about here. Will be the same next year and for years to come. Sorry guys.
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5/13/2012  9:25 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Apples and oranges........

Time will reveal the true winner of franchise's moving in different ways.

Its interesting but abstract to quantify who is better.

Both teams got what they wanted.


"Time will tell" or "give it more time" is what the team that lost the trade always says. How many Nuggets fans do you think are saying it's unclear and a few more years are needed?

What kind of doctor are you??


Thankfully, not a juris doctor! You're probably gonna sue me soon.

Our business model (luckily for you) is not driven by suing posters who habitually perjure themselves.

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5/13/2012  10:05 PM
Danilo Gallinari is a fake 3 point specialist, and Timofey Mozgov is Frederick Weiss.

Move on.

Nalod
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5/13/2012  10:29 PM
Nuggs are stupidly happy.

Maybe a better place to be?

Slamming the knuggs don't improve the knicks?

Taking Lakes 7 in the first round with a young group of improving players and draft picks gives reason for being optimistic.

We have our own reasons for the future being so bright we need shades.

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5/13/2012  10:39 PM
My problem is I don't care about the Nuggets. What's wrong with me?
https:// It's not so hard.
Damn Melo, the Denver Nuggets are making you look bad

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