VDesai wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

VDesai wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:i don't care how many points amare had tonight - he made absolutely zero impact on the game. he has completely lost all explosiveness around the hoop and can't finish. he plays no defense whatsoever and doesn't even attempt to stop layups. dude acts like a tough guy but he plays softer than steve kerr. i've had enough of amare.

if he really is out next game, it's probably addition by subtraction because amare is just a detriment right now.

Was Amare really this bad tonight? I don't think so. He certainly needs to be much better defensively, but the guy just never got the ball. Melo took 26 shots Amare took 9. You cannot get Amare Stoudemire only 9 shots. He scored 18 pts- meaning 2 for every time he shot. That's pretty freaking good. He is an efficient scorer and we have yet to figure out a way to use him with Carmelo Anthony on the floor.

des for every basket that amare scores, he gives up defensively.

maybe he wasn't that bad tonight, maybe i'm just tired of seeing the crap from him. i can't watch him stand under the hoop defensively while a player drives right past him for an easy bucket. i wanna see him give a hard foul just once or make a play on the ball.

No one would've made that statement last year, when Amare was the primary option and averaging 27ppg on better than 50% shooting. He was just as bad defensively last year too. Its highlighted more when he doesn't get shots. If he scores the way he can score (and in the 6 games he's been back and the 6 or so games prior to his injury, he has shown that skill), then no one's talking about kicking him to the curb.

He's just today's whipping boy the way Melo was in the first half of the year. The reality is both have their readily apparent flaws. Melo was a total ball stopper today- I don't care that he scored 30 pts, he barely looked to set anyone up and took a number of bad shots. To compound things he totally pouted after every play and didn't get back on D at all more than a half dozen times. In the 2nd quarter when he was out of the game was probably our best offensive stretch.

That being said we know what he can do - we saw it when Amare is out, he totally carried us and played an all around game. Just like before the Melo trade, Amare carried us. Both of these can do it, we just can't figure out how to make it work.

But we can't overreact because we are losing to the Heat. Its freaking Lebron James and Dwayne Wade. They are both built like brick houses, run 4.4 40's and have 40 inch verticals. When they are on their game you have to execute perfectly to compete.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:reading the Lupica article kinda calmed me down.

guy called into the lupica show and said he once punched a glass vase and was never able to shoot a basketball again. He had to have surgery to re-attach the ligaments, tendons, nerves and now his hand won't open all the way

smackeddog wrote:

franco12 wrote:This may get its own thread:

Source: Amar’e to visit hand specialist
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/source-amar-e-stoudemire-visit-hand-specialist-manhattan-determine-extent-damage-hand-article-1.1070553?localLinksEnabled=false

It only gets better!

It would have been better if he had just Metta World Peaced Lebrons head and gotten suspended for 30 games.

Slightly off topic, but if you go to that article, you see a picture of the fire extinguisher. My question is, how are you actually meant to get the extinguisher out of the metal case if there was a fire? There's a lock on it and the glass bit (aside from cutting your hand if broken) isn't big enough to get it out of.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Anji wrote:

Lawdyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

I was just about to post this. I didn't catch the extinguisher running away at first. lol. On the real I hope his Hand is not really damage and that he recovers soon. They have a second round series to play. Fan

Vmart wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Why does everyone overreact around here. Everyone just calm the F' up. Amare is a beast next game he is gonna be in boasting mode.

Its reality.

Continuing to say Amare is a beast is not reality. He is a shell of what he was.

I think Amare is a lot harder on himself. Reality, Amare is having a difficult year. It's a road game you guys aren't really expecting victory on the road are you. Take care of home field than steal a game from the heat that is pretty much how the Knicks are going to pull the upset.

It's like the signs are there; you are not the player that you were. He may be damaged goods now, but he must re-invent his game. Basketball is unlike other sports in that your contribution is not limited to your scoring. Agressive defense, rebounding and boxing out, puts your team mates in position to contribute more. This is A'mare's "Larry Johnson" moment. He has only to step in to it.

Sangfroid wrote:

Vmart wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Why does everyone overreact around here. Everyone just calm the F' up. Amare is a beast next game he is gonna be in boasting mode.

Its reality.

Continuing to say Amare is a beast is not reality. He is a shell of what he was.

I think Amare is a lot harder on himself. Reality, Amare is having a difficult year. It's a road game you guys aren't really expecting victory on the road are you. Take care of home field than steal a game from the heat that is pretty much how the Knicks are going to pull the upset.

It's like the signs are there; you are not the player that you were. He may be damaged goods now, but he must re-invent his game. Basketball is unlike other sports in that your contribution is not limited to your scoring. Agressive defense, rebounding and boxing out, puts your team mates in position to contribute more. This is A'mare's "Larry Johnson" moment. He has only to step in to it.

He can take a page out of Duncan's book and readjust his game.

If he cant come back and play for game 3 or 4 his trade value is shot until next season.