Olbrannon wrote:NC ring...

By the way he went Syracuse... Just sayin...

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Don't even let the Melo haters phase you; the REAL fans don't waste breath and text constantly focused on everything negative while ignoring the positives. Only haters do that, and hey, haters and their words don't matter!

Woodson also had a terrible game substituting players. They were gassed he should've had Fields and Novak in the game as they were playing well. Also Harrelson and Novak were awful defensively to start the 4th. Because of it Novak never saw the floor again til the end.

and Baron was not a leader

That being said I have to agree with what someone said. A true superstar doesn't come to a .500 team and turn it in to a .500 team. They improve the team. I'm not going to kill Melo because he has gone through the same roster churn that D'Antoni did recently, but.......Eventually he has to win

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Don't even let the Melo haters phase you; the REAL fans don't waste breath and text constantly focused on everything negative while ignoring the positives. Only haters do that, and hey, haters and their words don't matter!

so were you a real fan when you were hating on d'antoni? lol.

LOL... I knew someone would take the bait.

I acknowledged both MDA's positives and negatives, which is only fair. However, those who have this seething hate towards Melo always whing, bytch and moan when something goes wrong, and when he does do something right, those same blowhards have nothing to say.

Plus, I was pulling to do well when he came here, and gave him a chance until it appeared (this year) that things were NOT getting better.

So no, I was nbot "hating" on MDA, and yeah, I am ALWAYS a Real Fan, always maintaining optimism for my team to do bettter, player better and be better.

KnicksFE wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:this loss had some but very little to do with Melo(although a couple of his threes really hurt us). Actually if I singled out a player I would lean towarrds JR and his ridiculous down the stretch decisions.

That being said I have to agree with what someone said. A true superstar doesn't come to a .500 team and turn it in to a .500 team. They improve the team. I'm not going to kill Melo because he has gone through the same roster churn that D'Antoni did recently, but.......Eventually he has to win

I totally agree, and this why I will hold judgment on Melo (if he can be the main piece of a championship team) for at least two more seasons since he will be only 28 next month. However, today, I don’t think you can consider Melo a true superstar in the NBA, since he hasn’t won a championship and has accomplished anything individually either. Is he even a top 10 player? I don't think so.

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Don't even let the Melo haters phase you; the REAL fans don't waste breath and text constantly focused on everything negative while ignoring the positives. Only haters do that, and hey, haters and their words don't matter!

so were you a real fan when you were hating on d'antoni? lol.

LOL... I knew someone would take the bait.

I acknowledged both MDA's positives and negatives, which is only fair. However, those who have this seething hate towards Melo always whing, bytch and moan when something goes wrong, and when he does do something right, those same blowhards have nothing to say.

Plus, I was pulling to do well when he came here, and gave him a chance until it appeared (this year) that things were NOT getting better.

So no, I was nbot "hating" on MDA, and yeah, I am ALWAYS a Real Fan, always maintaining optimism for my team to do bettter, player better and be better.

as far as i'm concerned, i'm a Knicks fan. not a Melo fan. you can be one and not be the other. and in fact, sometimes i feel like Melo's staunchest defenders could not give a damn whether the team won. they just wanna see their favorite sneaker salesman get his. there were guys who felt so threatened during Linsanity that they were actually dissing Lin because they thought he was stealing Melo's shine. it's sad.

Those are petty people, and those aren't what most would consider real fans. There is no need for that drama. Such "fans" are more like soap-opera followers- they're drama addicts.

One can be a Knicks fan but not a Melo fan, but one thing all the non-Melo fans need to get straight is that the dude is on our team, so rooting for him to fail is just as contradictory as those who are more Melo fans than Knicks fans and who don't care is the Knicks win or not.

people talk about loving this team. well, let me tell you guys a dark secret: the team doesn't love you. if you're broke, they ain't gonna let you into MSG for free, they ain't gonna give you free cable, they ain't gonna blindly support you. so why do you think it's some type of badge of honor to blindly support them?

What you may call "blind support" is just others simply being optimistic. We already know all of that about MSG not paying us, because that's all obvious. Just because people whine and cry, and then seem elated when the team fails isn't being a fan at all- that IS being a hater, down to the definition. I love this team despite what abyone moans about, and I do that knowing that the team "doesn't pay me". They don't have to pay me- for fans, it's fun to root fopr the team we like. If folks can't get with that program, then why should they kid themselves and call themselves a fan? lol

we all wanna see the team win. the suggestion that someone who disagrees with the team's management hates the team is childish.

...and it's just as childish to assume that optimistic fans are all "blind supporters", too.

everybody wants to see the team get better. some people here disagree with the team's direction. there's nothing wrong with that.

...and I never said that there was. I have been down that road before, as many of us have at one time or another. IMO it makes more sense to be more optimistic and less cynical when the team is doing better, rather than only look for things to nitpick about while not noting the positives. Those types are the ones just looking to argue over trivial crap. There have been a few of those types who have come and gone over the years, as they are quick to play themselves out.

we made a move to add a "superstar" player and yet, here we are, over a year later and we still have to scrap just to make the playoffs. meanwhile, teams like the Sixers and the Pacers, with no "superstars" are comfortably ahead of us. is it really so shocking that not everyone is getting in line to suck Melo's dick?

LOL... man, there sure is a BIG anti-Melo chip on your shoulder, Evil. It's not that deep- it really isn't. Lighten up!

The Knicks current struggles is by no means Melo's fault. That's just as idiotic as saying that the team's injuries are his fault. Come on, dude, Melo IS a star, and it's a good thing that we have him. If you and some others can't realize that and just hate him just to hate him, then that's on you. Being a fan of the team by no means implies that folks on on anyone's dick, bruh. In case you haven't heard, fans can root for the team AND Melo, who is a part of the team without jock-riding.

All that said, let's just all be glad that the NYK is doing better than we have in many years, and fall back from the toxic swiggin' of the haterade. That stuff isn't good for anyone, especially Knicks fans.

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Don't even let the Melo haters phase you; the REAL fans don't waste breath and text constantly focused on everything negative while ignoring the positives. Only haters do that, and hey, haters and their words don't matter!

so were you a real fan when you were hating on d'antoni? lol.

LOL... I knew someone would take the bait.

I acknowledged both MDA's positives and negatives, which is only fair. However, those who have this seething hate towards Melo always whing, bytch and moan when something goes wrong, and when he does do something right, those same blowhards have nothing to say.

Plus, I was pulling to do well when he came here, and gave him a chance until it appeared (this year) that things were NOT getting better.

So no, I was nbot "hating" on MDA, and yeah, I am ALWAYS a Real Fan, always maintaining optimism for my team to do bettter, player better and be better.

as far as i'm concerned, i'm a Knicks fan. not a Melo fan. you can be one and not be the other. and in fact, sometimes i feel like Melo's staunchest defenders could not give a damn whether the team won. they just wanna see their favorite sneaker salesman get his. there were guys who felt so threatened during Linsanity that they were actually dissing Lin because they thought he was stealing Melo's shine. it's sad.

Those are petty people, and those aren't what most would consider real fans. There is no need for that drama. Such "fans" are more like soap-opera followers- they're drama addicts.

One can be a Knicks fan but not a Melo fan, but one thing all the non-Melo fans need to get straight is that the dude is on our team, so rooting for him to fail is just as contradictory as those who are more Melo fans than Knicks fans and who don't care is the Knicks win or not.

people talk about loving this team. well, let me tell you guys a dark secret: the team doesn't love you. if you're broke, they ain't gonna let you into MSG for free, they ain't gonna give you free cable, they ain't gonna blindly support you. so why do you think it's some type of badge of honor to blindly support them?

What you may call "blind support" is just others simply being optimistic. We already know all of that about MSG not paying us, because that's all obvious. Just because people whine and cry, and then seem elated when the team fails isn't being a fan at all- that IS being a hater, down to the definition. I love this team despite what abyone moans about, and I do that knowing that the team "doesn't pay me". They don't have to pay me- for fans, it's fun to root fopr the team we like. If folks can't get with that program, then why should they kid themselves and call themselves a fan? lol

we all wanna see the team win. the suggestion that someone who disagrees with the team's management hates the team is childish.

...and it's just as childish to assume that optimistic fans are all "blind supporters", too.

everybody wants to see the team get better. some people here disagree with the team's direction. there's nothing wrong with that.

...and I never said that there was. I have been down that road before, as many of us have at one time or another. IMO it makes more sense to be more optimistic and less cynical when the team is doing better, rather than only look for things to nitpick about while not noting the positives. Those types are the ones just looking to argue over trivial crap. There have been a few of those types who have come and gone over the years, as they are quick to play themselves out.

we made a move to add a "superstar" player and yet, here we are, over a year later and we still have to scrap just to make the playoffs. meanwhile, teams like the Sixers and the Pacers, with no "superstars" are comfortably ahead of us. is it really so shocking that not everyone is getting in line to suck Melo's dick?

LOL... man, there sure is a BIG anti-Melo chip on your shoulder, Evil. It's not that deep- it really isn't. Lighten up!

The Knicks current struggles is by no means Melo's fault. That's just as idiotic as saying that the team's injuries are his fault. Come on, dude, Melo IS a star, and it's a good thing that we have him. If you and some others can't realize that and just hate him just to hate him, then that's on you. Being a fan of the team by no means implies that folks on on anyone's dick, bruh. In case you haven't heard, fans can root for the team AND Melo, who is a part of the team without jock-riding.

All that said, let's just all be glad that the NYK is doing better than we have in many years, and fall back from the toxic swiggin' of the haterade. That stuff isn't good for anyone, especially Knicks fans.

Bonn1997 wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Don't even let the Melo haters phase you; the REAL fans don't waste breath and text constantly focused on everything negative while ignoring the positives. Only haters do that, and hey, haters and their words don't matter!

so were you a real fan when you were hating on d'antoni? lol.

LOL... I knew someone would take the bait.

I acknowledged both MDA's positives and negatives, which is only fair. However, those who have this seething hate towards Melo always whing, bytch and moan when something goes wrong, and when he does do something right, those same blowhards have nothing to say.

Plus, I was pulling to do well when he came here, and gave him a chance until it appeared (this year) that things were NOT getting better.

So no, I was nbot "hating" on MDA, and yeah, I am ALWAYS a Real Fan, always maintaining optimism for my team to do bettter, player better and be better.

as far as i'm concerned, i'm a Knicks fan. not a Melo fan. you can be one and not be the other. and in fact, sometimes i feel like Melo's staunchest defenders could not give a damn whether the team won. they just wanna see their favorite sneaker salesman get his. there were guys who felt so threatened during Linsanity that they were actually dissing Lin because they thought he was stealing Melo's shine. it's sad.

Those are petty people, and those aren't what most would consider real fans. There is no need for that drama. Such "fans" are more like soap-opera followers- they're drama addicts.

One can be a Knicks fan but not a Melo fan, but one thing all the non-Melo fans need to get straight is that the dude is on our team, so rooting for him to fail is just as contradictory as those who are more Melo fans than Knicks fans and who don't care is the Knicks win or not.

people talk about loving this team. well, let me tell you guys a dark secret: the team doesn't love you. if you're broke, they ain't gonna let you into MSG for free, they ain't gonna give you free cable, they ain't gonna blindly support you. so why do you think it's some type of badge of honor to blindly support them?

What you may call "blind support" is just others simply being optimistic. We already know all of that about MSG not paying us, because that's all obvious. Just because people whine and cry, and then seem elated when the team fails isn't being a fan at all- that IS being a hater, down to the definition. I love this team despite what abyone moans about, and I do that knowing that the team "doesn't pay me". They don't have to pay me- for fans, it's fun to root fopr the team we like. If folks can't get with that program, then why should they kid themselves and call themselves a fan? lol

we all wanna see the team win. the suggestion that someone who disagrees with the team's management hates the team is childish.

...and it's just as childish to assume that optimistic fans are all "blind supporters", too.

everybody wants to see the team get better. some people here disagree with the team's direction. there's nothing wrong with that.

...and I never said that there was. I have been down that road before, as many of us have at one time or another. IMO it makes more sense to be more optimistic and less cynical when the team is doing better, rather than only look for things to nitpick about while not noting the positives. Those types are the ones just looking to argue over trivial crap. There have been a few of those types who have come and gone over the years, as they are quick to play themselves out.

we made a move to add a "superstar" player and yet, here we are, over a year later and we still have to scrap just to make the playoffs. meanwhile, teams like the Sixers and the Pacers, with no "superstars" are comfortably ahead of us. is it really so shocking that not everyone is getting in line to suck Melo's dick?

LOL... man, there sure is a BIG anti-Melo chip on your shoulder, Evil. It's not that deep- it really isn't. Lighten up!

The Knicks current struggles is by no means Melo's fault. That's just as idiotic as saying that the team's injuries are his fault. Come on, dude, Melo IS a star, and it's a good thing that we have him. If you and some others can't realize that and just hate him just to hate him, then that's on you. Being a fan of the team by no means implies that folks on on anyone's dick, bruh. In case you haven't heard, fans can root for the team AND Melo, who is a part of the team without jock-riding.

All that said, let's just all be glad that the NYK is doing better than we have in many years, and fall back from the toxic swiggin' of the haterade. That stuff isn't good for anyone, especially Knicks fans.

You can't be serious? Evil didn't say anything unreasonable and Melo hasn't done anything worth defending.

Actually, I am being straight up on that. I was serious about what I said, but this topic isn't serious at all.

LOL @ "Melo hasn't done anything worth defending.". Yeah, he's a player on the team, so that makes him the boogeyman, huh? Dude, YOU can't be serious.

Why are folks getting so bent up over something so trivial. I guess that rooting for the team and the players on it is THAT hard to so for some. It's all good, though.

Bonn1997 wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

eViL wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Don't even let the Melo haters phase you; the REAL fans don't waste breath and text constantly focused on everything negative while ignoring the positives. Only haters do that, and hey, haters and their words don't matter!

so were you a real fan when you were hating on d'antoni? lol.

LOL... I knew someone would take the bait.

I acknowledged both MDA's positives and negatives, which is only fair. However, those who have this seething hate towards Melo always whing, bytch and moan when something goes wrong, and when he does do something right, those same blowhards have nothing to say.

Plus, I was pulling to do well when he came here, and gave him a chance until it appeared (this year) that things were NOT getting better.

So no, I was nbot "hating" on MDA, and yeah, I am ALWAYS a Real Fan, always maintaining optimism for my team to do bettter, player better and be better.

as far as i'm concerned, i'm a Knicks fan. not a Melo fan. you can be one and not be the other. and in fact, sometimes i feel like Melo's staunchest defenders could not give a damn whether the team won. they just wanna see their favorite sneaker salesman get his. there were guys who felt so threatened during Linsanity that they were actually dissing Lin because they thought he was stealing Melo's shine. it's sad.

Those are petty people, and those aren't what most would consider real fans. There is no need for that drama. Such "fans" are more like soap-opera followers- they're drama addicts.

One can be a Knicks fan but not a Melo fan, but one thing all the non-Melo fans need to get straight is that the dude is on our team, so rooting for him to fail is just as contradictory as those who are more Melo fans than Knicks fans and who don't care is the Knicks win or not.

people talk about loving this team. well, let me tell you guys a dark secret: the team doesn't love you. if you're broke, they ain't gonna let you into MSG for free, they ain't gonna give you free cable, they ain't gonna blindly support you. so why do you think it's some type of badge of honor to blindly support them?

What you may call "blind support" is just others simply being optimistic. We already know all of that about MSG not paying us, because that's all obvious. Just because people whine and cry, and then seem elated when the team fails isn't being a fan at all- that IS being a hater, down to the definition. I love this team despite what abyone moans about, and I do that knowing that the team "doesn't pay me". They don't have to pay me- for fans, it's fun to root fopr the team we like. If folks can't get with that program, then why should they kid themselves and call themselves a fan? lol

we all wanna see the team win. the suggestion that someone who disagrees with the team's management hates the team is childish.

...and it's just as childish to assume that optimistic fans are all "blind supporters", too.

everybody wants to see the team get better. some people here disagree with the team's direction. there's nothing wrong with that.

...and I never said that there was. I have been down that road before, as many of us have at one time or another. IMO it makes more sense to be more optimistic and less cynical when the team is doing better, rather than only look for things to nitpick about while not noting the positives. Those types are the ones just looking to argue over trivial crap. There have been a few of those types who have come and gone over the years, as they are quick to play themselves out.

we made a move to add a "superstar" player and yet, here we are, over a year later and we still have to scrap just to make the playoffs. meanwhile, teams like the Sixers and the Pacers, with no "superstars" are comfortably ahead of us. is it really so shocking that not everyone is getting in line to suck Melo's dick?

LOL... man, there sure is a BIG anti-Melo chip on your shoulder, Evil. It's not that deep- it really isn't. Lighten up!

The Knicks current struggles is by no means Melo's fault. That's just as idiotic as saying that the team's injuries are his fault. Come on, dude, Melo IS a star, and it's a good thing that we have him. If you and some others can't realize that and just hate him just to hate him, then that's on you. Being a fan of the team by no means implies that folks on on anyone's dick, bruh. In case you haven't heard, fans can root for the team AND Melo, who is a part of the team without jock-riding.

All that said, let's just all be glad that the NYK is doing better than we have in many years, and fall back from the toxic swiggin' of the haterade. That stuff isn't good for anyone, especially Knicks fans.

You can't be serious? Evil didn't say anything unreasonable and Melo hasn't done anything worth defending.

Actually, I am being straight up on that. I was serious about what I said, but this topic isn't serious at all.

LOL @ "Melo hasn't done anything worth defending.". Yeah, he's a player on the team, so that makes him the boogeyman, huh? Dude, YOU can't be serious.

Why are folks getting so bent up over something so trivial. I guess that rooting for the team and the players on it is THAT hard to so for some. It's all good, though.

People here are finding it hard to root for the team? You have an odd way of misinterpreting things

Again, of course I wasn't referring to anyone specific, but to those whom the shoe fits. they can lace 'em up and run the Forrest Gump cross-country marathon in them.

Nothing was misinterpreted this way, Bonn. I'm just calling it as I see it.