Uptown wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Uptown wrote:Here we go with the quarter/quarter game to game analysis again. Where was this htread when Melo made two potential game winners vs the Celts only to lose because our coach was asleep at the wheel. Some of you guys are amazing. We bashed Amare for about a month, now he has one good game and we turn out attention to Melo. Always looking for someone to blame.

Anyone had this game in Dallas checked off as a win pre-season?

That's the enabling.

We had an 8-1 run and tasted the sweet strawberries, now we have the stale sour apples.

Melo's behavior was inexcusable last night. Several displays of sourpus attitude were already noted in other threads.

No excuses.

You keep going back to this 8-1 record. Be honest with yourself and assess the team for what it is since the streak. Coaches are game-planing for Lin now, he its on him and th coach to make adjustments. With or without Anthony in the lineup, we lose at Miami, Boston and Dallas. These are 3 of the top defensive teams in the league and they were prepared to shut Lin down.

Our entire offense right now is either pick and roll and drive and kick. Thats IT! Teams are now Trapping the pick and clogging the lane, forcing Lin to miss a difficult shots when he tries to force his way into the paint or kick. When he kicks the ball out, teams (esp Boston) had a defensive floater/free safety on the weak side to intercept the kick passes.

Now its up to our coach to adjust. Our coach is know to be stubborn but hopefully he see's what we/some of us are seeing.

Seriously? Really think the coaches don't see what fans see?

Fans see the problem but no solutions.

Nalod wrote:

Uptown wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Uptown wrote:Here we go with the quarter/quarter game to game analysis again. Where was this htread when Melo made two potential game winners vs the Celts only to lose because our coach was asleep at the wheel. Some of you guys are amazing. We bashed Amare for about a month, now he has one good game and we turn out attention to Melo. Always looking for someone to blame.

Anyone had this game in Dallas checked off as a win pre-season?

That's the enabling.

We had an 8-1 run and tasted the sweet strawberries, now we have the stale sour apples.

Melo's behavior was inexcusable last night. Several displays of sourpus attitude were already noted in other threads.

No excuses.

You keep going back to this 8-1 record. Be honest with yourself and assess the team for what it is since the streak. Coaches are game-planing for Lin now, he its on him and th coach to make adjustments. With or without Anthony in the lineup, we lose at Miami, Boston and Dallas. These are 3 of the top defensive teams in the league and they were prepared to shut Lin down.

Our entire offense right now is either pick and roll and drive and kick. Thats IT! Teams are now Trapping the pick and clogging the lane, forcing Lin to miss a difficult shots when he tries to force his way into the paint or kick. When he kicks the ball out, teams (esp Boston) had a defensive floater/free safety on the weak side to intercept the kick passes.

Now its up to our coach to adjust. Our coach is know to be stubborn but hopefully he see's what we/some of us are seeing.

Seriously? Really think the coaches don't see what fans see?

Fans see the problem but no solutions.

And our coach probably see's a solution but is a stubborn SOB and doesn't want to budge. What was MDA's answer when he was asked why not foul up 3, "Thats not the way we do things!" If thats not stubborn, I dont know what is. Hello, You coach to win the game. The way you do things should be what ever way it takes to win ball games.

Vmart wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Here we go with the quarter/quarter game to game analysis again. Where was this htread when Melo made two potential game winners vs the Celts only to lose because our coach was asleep at the wheel. Some of you guys are amazing. We bashed Amare for about a month, now he has one good game and we turn out attention to Melo. Always looking for someone to blame.

Anyone had this game in Dallas checked off as a win pre-season?

Can you at least admit that he's having a nightmare season?

He's definitely having a down year compared to previous seasons he's had in the league. I think injuries have played a part and I think MDA is not doing a good job of adjusting his "equal opportunity system to play to Melo's strengths.

I agree with this. Everyone loves the idea of team ball but just look at other teams how much team balling do they really do? Last year the Mavs won the championship everyone says they won with team ball that is all good and all but they ran isolations for Dirk a lot.

The bulls are Rose when they need something they call on Rose for making plays and score. Heat steady diet of isolations for LeBron, Wade and Bosh. Thunder, Durant and Westbrook show they take majority of the shots with a lot of isolations. Celtics KG and Pierce they get majority of the touches.

The Knicks are to much pick and roll oriented, teams can take it away and when they do they have no other play to fall back on. PnR and kick out offense you need isolation. Melo is probably one of the better players in isolations Besides he is the only post player the Knicks have on the team. The big problem here is that everyone is over reacting with team ball thing. One thing I know is that in basketball you need aggressiveness and someone has to be a little selfish that's basketball.

You can't just run PnR there is other facets of offense that need to be run. I don't think the Knicks have a good mix of plays. The Knicks don't create mismatches they don't do any of these things, last I looked that is part of basketball too. How come the Knicks can't get a mismatch where a guard ends up on Melo. How many times did the Celtic exploit the Knicks when a guard ended up on Pierce during the Celtics game?

Knicks fans are paint Melo in a bad corner we are putting him In a situation where he can't win and if he can't win than we are making sure we don't win. He may not be the best player but he is a good player and I think the Knicks are better off having him on their team. Isolation is part of the game you need a steady diet of isolation to keep opponents honest. It's not like Melo doesn't pass out of an isolation situation he is averaging about 4 assists a game.

Nothing wrong with isos. But whatever you do you have to shoot efficiently to win. Melo is just not good enough. At least amare was shooting 50% which was pretty good when his high post iso game was featured.

So is that it? Is he now our new Starbury? Perhaps he does not fit into what we are trying to do here and this offense is not cut out for him. Who knows.

skeng wrote:I wonder what MDA really, truly thinks of Melo. A talented player, with an immature approach to the game and a selfish outlook? A bad person? Or just a guy who wants to win but needs guidance?

I think he sees him as an immature guy.

MDA treats people like Men, not boys; like professionals.

In Melo you have a talented player that never had to grow up and face the music.

I don't think he or anyone else sees Melo as a bad person; by all accounts he's a good person. And the talent is undeniable.

Vmart wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:No one that knows the Basketgame considered Melo a top player even before this year.

He was always an inefficient chucker.

Not true ask Kobe what he thinks of Melo. Kobe is already on the record he called Melo "a beast".

Wait, what, you mean Kobe Bryant and the rest of the Gold Medal team's opinion matter more than orangeblobman's!?!?!

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:No one that knows the Basketgame considered Melo a top player even before this year.

He was always an inefficient chucker.

I consider Hubie Brown to be one of the most knowledgeable basketball person around and he has said many times that he thinke Melo is the 2nd best pure offensive player in the league behind Durant. Enough with your hate and crap about Melo, it really ruins this forum.

mrKnickShot wrote:

BigRedDog wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:No one that knows the Basketgame considered Melo a top player even before this year.

He was always an inefficient chucker.

I consider Hubie Brown to be one of the most knowledgeable basketball person around and he has said many times that he thinke Melo is the 2nd best pure offensive player in the league behind Durant. Enough with your hate and crap about Melo, it really ruins this forum.

I guess Hubie does not know basketball. Magic said last year that he thought that Melo was the BEST PURE SCORER in the game.

All this is, is short sighted blinded-ness

And this might be true, but tell me this, if we switched out Kevin Durantula and Melo, which player do you think would fit better with his new team? It's the question of team ball, which Melo seems unaccustomed to somehow. And that is infinitely frustrating to watch.