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Knicks will sign JR Smith and cut Balkman
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gunsnewing
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2/17/2012  11:48 AM
misterearl wrote:Sources close to the situation have told TKB that in order to make room for the signing of guard J.R. Smith the team will indeed release Renaldo Balkman after failing to complete trades for existing players on the roster including Balkman, Bill Walker, and Toney Douglas. - Tommy Dee

What, nobody wants Toney Douglas?

Amazing.

LOL TD needs to voluntarily go down to the D-League

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2/17/2012  12:10 PM
oh and keep in mind players elevate their 3pt% in Dantoni's system. See Wilson Chandler, Bill Walker, Shawne Williams. JR shoots 37-40% which is great and will only increase now
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2/17/2012  12:17 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
misterearl wrote:Sources close to the situation have told TKB that in order to make room for the signing of guard J.R. Smith the team will indeed release Renaldo Balkman after failing to complete trades for existing players on the roster including Balkman, Bill Walker, and Toney Douglas. - Tommy Dee

What, nobody wants Toney Douglas?

Amazing.

LOL TD needs to voluntarily go down to the D-League

What sources does TKB has

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2/17/2012  1:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/17/2012  1:37 PM
martin wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
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rp wrote:I don't really think Davis is coming back if they let go of Balkman over Bibby.

Bibby kept in case Lin gets hurt. Or Davis.

Balk worthless.

Balkman is not worthless. Are you die hard enough to have watched EVERY GAME. If you are, then you know that when Balk was getting play earlier in the season, he performed well, rebounded, defended and had a few put backs. He's definitely more productive than Bibby who has shown that A: He is no longer a viable ball handle. B: He can't hit the broadside of a barn anymore.

You cut the least valuable player on the team and Balk has proven when giving playing time that he will be the more productive of the two.

NOW, with that said, I believe Balk will be the one cut

him and andrew are die hard enough to pay for, run, and constantly work on this site. nuff said.

your point is ass off point as the one your defending. He made an incorrect statement and what are you, his bodyguard.


Join the Balkman fan club if you would like. Bibby is worth keeping if one of Lin/Davis gets hurt.

What role does Balkman have? He hasn't been productive for a team since NIIT.

Bibby and Balkman don't play the same role on team, so there is no direct comparison for them.


Balk is a way better player than Bibby. If Lin gets hurt, just sign the best FA or available D league player. It won't be a step down from Bibby anyway. I'm sure we can find an FA PG who can bring the ball up court and shoot at least 27% if necessary.
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2/17/2012  1:35 PM
martin wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:WOW, Your memory is short. He was getting PT earlier this season and produced. Bibby produced in like one game....ALSO, if you read the entire post, I said I expected BALKMAN to be the one cut. I only disagreed with your assessment of him being garbage. I even put the smiley face on it so, you and the body guard need to relax.

what exactly did he produce? Perhaps instead of asking everyone to relax you should post something worthwhile and meaningful (something Balk has yet to do in NBA).


Per 36 min:
13.1 Pts, 8.1 Rbs, 1.3 Stls, 0.9 blks
Obviously you can't place a lot of faith in those #s given how few minutes he played overall but he was about as productive as any role player could be in his limited minutes.
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2/17/2012  1:38 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
martin wrote:
rp wrote:I don't really think Davis is coming back if they let go of Balkman over Bibby.

Bibby kept in case Lin gets hurt. Or Davis.

Balk worthless.

Balkman is not worthless. Are you die hard enough to have watched EVERY GAME. If you are, then you know that when Balk was getting play earlier in the season, he performed well, rebounded, defended and had a few put backs. He's definitely more productive than Bibby who has shown that A: He is no longer a viable ball handle. B: He can't hit the broadside of a barn anymore.

You cut the least valuable player on the team and Balk has proven when giving playing time that he will be the more productive of the two.

NOW, with that said, I believe Balk will be the one cut

him and andrew are die hard enough to pay for, run, and constantly work on this site. nuff said.

your point is ass off point as the one your defending. He made an incorrect statement and what are you, his bodyguard.


Join the Balkman fan club if you would like. Bibby is worth keeping if one of Lin/Davis gets hurt.

What role does Balkman have? He hasn't been productive for a team since NIIT.

Bibby and Balkman don't play the same role on team, so there is no direct comparison for them.


Balk is a way better player than Bibby. If Lin gets hurt, just sign the best FA or available D league player. It won't be a step down from Bibby anyway.

i just stated that Bibby and Balk dont play the same role and you still want to compare the 2 by saying One is better than the other?

And it is realistic to say if Lin gets hurt over the next week that we'll just be able to sign some DLeague guy to play minutes (if Bibby got cut). And who would you cut to make room for the Dleague guy?

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2/17/2012  1:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/17/2012  1:47 PM
martin wrote:And who would you cut to make room for the Dleague guy?


Balkman lol

Its crazy that people are actually arguing over Balkman/Bibby. Shows that they'll argue about anything and everything just to argue!

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2/17/2012  2:09 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
martin wrote:And who would you cut to make room for the Dleague guy?


Balkman lol

Its crazy that people are actually arguing over Balkman/Bibby. Shows that they'll argue about anything and everything just to argue!


In that scenario, it might make sense to cut Balkman. But we're NOT in that scenario and we might never be. Regardless, in that scenario the season is over anyway.
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2/17/2012  2:47 PM
One thing in Bibby's favor is that he went thru training camp and knows the system at a position we need. He may not be shooting well, but he's out there doing the right thing. Balkman has next to zero value to this team. What he does best we already get from other players that also score. There's almost zero chance that Balkman will improve offensively, whereas there's a reasonable chance that Bibby could get hot.
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2/17/2012  2:57 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:WOW, Your memory is short. He was getting PT earlier this season and produced. Bibby produced in like one game....ALSO, if you read the entire post, I said I expected BALKMAN to be the one cut. I only disagreed with your assessment of him being garbage. I even put the smiley face on it so, you and the body guard need to relax.

what exactly did he produce? Perhaps instead of asking everyone to relax you should post something worthwhile and meaningful (something Balk has yet to do in NBA).


Per 36 min:
13.1 Pts, 8.1 Rbs, 1.3 Stls, 0.9 blks
Obviously you can't place a lot of faith in those #s given how few minutes he played overall but he was about as productive as any role player could be in his limited minutes.

that was the ONLY point I was trying to make to Martin but, of course he didn't get it.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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2/17/2012  3:17 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
martin wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:WOW, Your memory is short. He was getting PT earlier this season and produced. Bibby produced in like one game....ALSO, if you read the entire post, I said I expected BALKMAN to be the one cut. I only disagreed with your assessment of him being garbage. I even put the smiley face on it so, you and the body guard need to relax.

what exactly did he produce? Perhaps instead of asking everyone to relax you should post something worthwhile and meaningful (something Balk has yet to do in NBA).


Per 36 min:
13.1 Pts, 8.1 Rbs, 1.3 Stls, 0.9 blks
Obviously you can't place a lot of faith in those #s given how few minutes he played overall but he was about as productive as any role player could be in his limited minutes.

that was the ONLY point I was trying to make to Martin but, of course he didn't get it.


Balkman has shown he can play well enough to be a good reserve forward in this league. I'd feel bad for him if no team picked him up.
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2/17/2012  3:24 PM
balkman was a butcher. dude, would commit the dumbest fouls i've ever seen.
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2/17/2012  3:26 PM
eViL wrote:balkman was a butcher. dude, would commit the dumbest fouls i've ever seen.

All players have weaknesses. Maybe he commits 1 or 1.5 bad fouls a game. I said he was a serviceable bench player, not a starter.
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2/17/2012  3:30 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
eViL wrote:balkman was a butcher. dude, would commit the dumbest fouls i've ever seen.

All players have weaknesses. Maybe he commits 1 or 1.5 bad fouls a game. I said he was a serviceable bench player, not a starter.

man, when i say "dumbest fouls" i mean, shot clock winding down, foul the guy who's taking a fade-away 3 pointer type fouls. dude was bad.

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2/17/2012  3:33 PM
eViL wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
eViL wrote:balkman was a butcher. dude, would commit the dumbest fouls i've ever seen.

All players have weaknesses. Maybe he commits 1 or 1.5 bad fouls a game. I said he was a serviceable bench player, not a starter.

man, when i say "dumbest fouls" i mean, shot clock winding down, foul the guy who's taking a fade-away 3 pointer type fouls. dude was bad.


He committed 1.0 fouls per game. How big an impact could that have had? You're making it sound like it would cause the opponents to score an extra 15 points a game.
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2/17/2012  3:47 PM
no doubt Balk will get picked up by another team and play meaningful minutes.
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2/17/2012  3:51 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
eViL wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
eViL wrote:balkman was a butcher. dude, would commit the dumbest fouls i've ever seen.

All players have weaknesses. Maybe he commits 1 or 1.5 bad fouls a game. I said he was a serviceable bench player, not a starter.

man, when i say "dumbest fouls" i mean, shot clock winding down, foul the guy who's taking a fade-away 3 pointer type fouls. dude was bad.


He committed 1.0 fouls per game. How big an impact could that have had? You're making it sound like it would cause the opponents to score an extra 15 points a game.

no i'm just making it sound like he committed really dumb fouls. he didn't play large enough minutes to really an impact. it's just something that stuck out to me.

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2/17/2012  4:02 PM
Its like I have been saying about other guys. If Balkman were deserving of playing time, then he would have played. To me, however; he didnt deserve any because he looked disinterested and he has done nothing over his career to improve his game. MDA would have played him if he showed the commitment.
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2/17/2012  4:19 PM
safe to say the team is complete only question is will the Knicks be able trade trade TD & Walker for 2nd rd picks at the deadline or on draft day?
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2/17/2012  4:27 PM
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Allanfan20 wrote:Its like I have been saying about other guys. If Balkman were deserving of playing time, then he would have played. To me, however; he didnt deserve any because he looked disinterested and he has done nothing over his career to improve his game. MDA would have played him if he showed the commitment.

+1 Balkman could've been a serviceable NBA player if he wasn't high half the time. It.is why sometimes he looks like he can drop 20 on hustle plays but most of the time he looks disinterested like he can't wait to go home and meet with his dealer

Knicks will sign JR Smith and cut Balkman

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