Every good team has an Iso player and uses him. So will the Knicks.

Those arguing against Melo are really being shortsighted. Melo is a bit of a ball stopper, but he's also shown that he's willing to be a team player. He had that game where he passed the ball when he couldn't hit a shot. I think now with a PG Melo can pick his spots more and not feel he has to do everything and force things. I really don't think there's gonna be a major problem. Sure they'll need time to get the chemistry going again, but aside from that I think they'll blend just fine.

Guy doesn't have it in him to ball with a team.

You cite last second shots, yea but It's his play that gets you in that position to begin with. He ain't Kobe or LeBron. He is Bernard King.

BigRedDog wrote:

islesfan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:No one's gonna trade something valuable for Melo right now. He's had surgeries and tons of injuries in the past year and is not playing well.

That's absurd to say his trade value isn't still very high.

Bonn has an agenda and its obvious he dislikes Melo. Don't let facts get in the way of his agenda.

islesfan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:No one's gonna trade something valuable for Melo right now. He's had surgeries and tons of injuries in the past year and is not playing well.

That's absurd to say his trade value isn't still very high.

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WindsorPl wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Thread is pure comedy.

Bulls are like 5-1 without Derrick Rose. Doesn't mean the Bulls don't need Rose.

Melo is the Knicks best player. Suggesting Melo adjust is like telling Lebron to adjust his game for Norris Cole.

Knicks are not the Bulls nor the Heat. Look at the records. If they were, we would not be having this discussion.
Being best player on 8-15 team is not much to brag about.

Miami won six straight without Wade...Maybe they should release him

Yeah, but they win a lot of games *with* him too (same with the Bulls and Rose, Anu). It's not Wade or Rose went down and then the trajectory of their franchise turned around.

So in your mind, the recent win streak is a result of Melo sitting instead of the emergence of Jeremy Lin?

MaTT4281 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WindsorPl wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Thread is pure comedy.

Bulls are like 5-1 without Derrick Rose. Doesn't mean the Bulls don't need Rose.

Melo is the Knicks best player. Suggesting Melo adjust is like telling Lebron to adjust his game for Norris Cole.

Knicks are not the Bulls nor the Heat. Look at the records. If they were, we would not be having this discussion.
Being best player on 8-15 team is not much to brag about.

Miami won six straight without Wade...Maybe they should release him

Yeah, but they win a lot of games *with* him too (same with the Bulls and Rose, Anu). It's not Wade or Rose went down and then the trajectory of their franchise turned around.

So in your mind, the recent win streak is a result of Melo sitting instead of the emergence of Jeremy Lin?

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Dwight's taken worst supporting casts than what we'd have left after this trade to 55 win seasons. Sign me up.

Meh! DH is a beast, but he's also a very flawed player in many ways. I think you undersell the impact of STAT, Melo, Tyson and Lin. That right there can be a very potent combo that is harder to handle that DH and his post game. Sure DH is a one man interior defense and rebound machine, but we have a very good collection of players already and I don't believe we become a vastly better team subtracting those guys and adding DH. It doesn't always work that way.

Right now with Lin teams will have a VERY hard time trying to stop our offense. The team also becomes deeper and so I feel very good about this team as it is. All we need is to have DH come and then twist his ankle and that bad supporting cast is less effective. Here we have more players and can survive injury to one guy.

Lin is a surprise to everyone... Before he played LA Kobe admitted he'd never even heard of him... What happens when teams can actually prepare for him, and everyone knows his game... Are you all truly expecting someone that was cut by countless teams to still perform when teams know what's coming? I pray that Lin can rise to the occasion and be consistent, but I don't want to put my hopes on a guy that was barely a twelfth man before last week.

Also, everyone seems to be missing the other pieces we'd be able to add without Melo. Namely JR Smith and Wilson Chandler (who never should've traded in the first place). ALSO how is no one holding Melo accountable for ripping the Knicks apart when he knew he was coming here anyway!!! See his wife's reality show negotiations prior to the trade if you don't believe it.

If he can prove himself a team player... Great!! Otherwise the only other way Melo, stat, and Lin can co-exist is if you bring in Phil Jackson and put those three in the triangle. Melo is a one trick pony... Great offense, average rebounder, and poor defender. If you disagree you should check your mancrush at the door.

holfresh wrote:

JCrusher wrote:melo has a lot to prove. sorry buts the truth . Amare came here last year and helped the knicks. Lin started last week without two stars and we are 5-0. since melo has come here and the knicks have had a worse record. Belive me i wish i was wrong but that has been the truth so far. Lin needs to control the ball and amare should be the main option and when they double amare lin has melo and novak on the perimeter

Melo has nothing to prove...Absolutely nothing..He may be the best scorer in the league, period..Like every other young player in this league, what if Lin's game falls off...U really think he will continue at this pace, really??..U are just a poster, keep that in mind...

Aslo, I will guarantee you right now the Knicks won't beat teams like the Heat and Bulls without Carmelo..Won't happen...U have gulped the kool-Aid to the point where you are not making sense...

How can you say Melo has nothing to prove? There are four players in the league that can say that right now. Kobe, Paul pierce, dirk, and Duncan because they led their teams to titles by putting then on their backs. Maybe Melo should at least lead a team to the finals before you say he has nothing left to prove. There have been countless great scorers that couldn't lead their teams anywhere because they don't have that drive that makes them refuse to lose, to work hard at every level of their game, and make their teammates better. Reggie Miller is the first to come to mind. Karl Malone (at least he could board too though, and got Utah to one final.)

Explain to me why Melo isn't a shut down defender I he's so great? He certainly has the strength and speed. Must be the lack of drive to raise his game on that end of the court, or maybe he's just exhausted from heaving thirty shots a night. Kobe plays D, pierce plays D, hell even dirk raised his game on the defensive end. Why not Melo?

holfresh wrote:If you are a Knicks fan, which I'm beginning to question, U better pray that Melo isn't listening to the chirping from section 401 and he is indeed the same player we traded half the team for last year...Check out his Stats against Boston last playoffs...Let me know what he has to prove...

Scoring a ton of points doesn't win you titles... Just ask Iverson... You have to make your teammates better, involve them in the game. Not just outscore your opponent on he stat sheet. Besides Melo's D, while better than the regular season, wasn't getting us past Boston.

Here is the only stat that should matter and there is no argument against it... We have a losing record with Melo!!! Period