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mrKnickShot
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2/7/2012  8:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/7/2012  8:28 PM
misterearl wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:I love that he's asian because that guaranties that he starts in next years all star game.

Sad comment. Lacking in merit or substance.

It's a joke - but true!! Watch.

Yao? Though he was a very good player, did he merit the insane number of votes that he got? You watch what Jeremy Lin will mean to the Chinese American community and how they embrace him. It is both rare and exciting to have a successful chinese american basketball player. He will start next year in the All Star game if he keeps this up. Mark my words. Will he deserve it? "Deserve" is relative. Its about the votes.

Don't be so judgemental.

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2/7/2012  8:29 PM
The Answer Man Does Not Think It Is Realistic To Worry About Jeremy Lin's "Upside"

Knixkik wrote:Realistically what is the thought on Lin's upside?

A. "It can be a two-time wonder, that’s what I’m worried about,” (Lin) said.

Lin is thinking about John Wall. Which is the way it should be.

"He's probably the fastest guard in the league, so I will have more than my hands full," Lin said Tuesday. "I'll watch film and try to pick up his tendencies."

I would rather savor Lin's first spin through the league and enjoy the ride he is taking us on. One game at a time. Speculating about "upside", in the context of what Lin has done with major minutes - places his last two games as either an unfair aberration, setting the stage for frustration - too high... or an expectation of GREATER things,... too low.

We have a grieving all star power forward, a busted up all star three who needs to be reprogrammed... and a center who is re-learning the joy of the pick and roll.

The beauty is that Lin has a moment to get familiar with the big three, one at a time, under game conditions. Chandler is first, Next is Amar'e, either by the weekend or early next week. Then Carmelo, in two weeks.

Deep breath.

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2/7/2012  8:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/7/2012  8:46 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:Don't be so judgemental.

Simply needed an explanation. Next time, rather than simply throwing something political out there, consider including your rationale.

And consider how anyone would perceive your words, "... I love he's asian because that guaranties that he starts in next years all star game" as a "joke."

Based on your explanation of Yao Ming's votes - that was no joke.

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2/7/2012  8:33 PM
Knixkik wrote:Realistically what is the thought on Lin's upside? Maybe he can be at Luke Ridnour's level this season, but i'm hoping to eventually become much better. I know his stats will fall off, but i'm hoping he can start the remainder of the year and average maybe 10 pts and 5 asts in 28 mins per. Hopefully he can eventually become a 15 pts, 7-8 ast per game player.

Lin is a slasher while I think Ridenour is more of a shooter/passer. I love Ridenour's game and I thought he would be the perfect fit here in NY like i have posted many times.

Lin, aside from his shot that he hopefully develops, looks very much like Nash with his herky jerky sustained dribble that is pretty indefensible to defend both the drive/shot and the pass.

If he can be half the offensive player that Nash was, I would be ecstatic.

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2/8/2012  2:57 AM
I agree with mrKnickShot - You can't compare Lin to Ridnour outside of their passing. Good and Bad as Ridnour now is better from the outside. But Lin, and I know it's early, appears to be a much better defender and quicker with his hands, feet and overall.

The big difference, again as said above, is that Lin is a slasher, which is in understatement. He breaks down defenses quite well and splits double teams fairly well - we'll see if that keeps up at this level.

I love what you said mrknickShot about his Nash like herky jerky moves. THAT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DEFEND. It is like a baseball pitcher with a 99 mph fastball, a great 88 mph curve and 75 mph offspead stuff. You all know Shump is a very good to great defender, well, Lin has been doing this to him in practice as well. Even with great athleticism, herky jerky speed changing moves are very difficult to adjust to.

Lin is a good finisher at the rim, lately he has been great - too good to believe actually. I'll hold it at that as I can't believe what I've seen and want the kid to play more minutes before I say for sure what he is, but remember when Melo and Chandler said he needed minutes from practicing with him and I think told the coach? That is two all stars. That is a huge compliment and evidence that Lin is not an aberration.

Rock on Lin,
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2/8/2012  3:08 AM
misterearl - others
Watch that video at the 3:30 mark and the play that develops there, where Lin drivers and throws a slow bounce pass to Novak for three in the corner. I watched that bit a few times and still never saw Lin looking over at Novak. It is amazing. There were 3 defenders there at one point and he throws the pass around two of them as the 3rd is out of bounds.
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2/8/2012  7:17 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:yes Evil - You are pretty much right on. I mean Lin would still be better than fisher, but Lin with the team we have and Mike as coach is a better plan. I can't believe I'm saying that but every time I got on Mike I never said he was bad. I said he was inflexible and needed a great pg for his system to work. Well, now we have the makings of that. (edit - And I want Mike to stay, at least after seeing how we do the rest of the year. It would be crazy to break thing up before then.)

I can't believe I just did it, but I ordered NBA League pass online just so I could watch this kid play more this year. I want full screen. I think I won't be the only one. Lin is going to sell a lot of shirts and stuff.

If you wait till after the all star game prices will go down 25%.

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Well, that was fast but I'm not shocked: "Jeremy drives up tix prices.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/jeremy_drives_up_tix_prices_DzK2U4cb5YPRIaH9EkScWL?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

The Jeremy Lin Show returns to the Garden Friday night, and it’s a hit at the box office.
After Lin captivated crowds with breakout performances in the Knicks’ recent back-to-back wins, a re-energized fan base is lining up for tickets to see what the undrafted second-year point guard from Harvard will do next.

According to secondary-ticket site aggregator SeatGeek, transaction volume on the secondhand market for the Knicks’ game Friday against the Lakers nearly quadrupled — to 1,125 stubs swapped from an average of 310 the three days prior — in the 24 hours after Lin dazzled with 28 points in Monday’s home victory over the Jazz.

Lin’s rapid rise from benchwarmer to crowd favorite also stoked a 13-percent spike in average prices for the game against Kobe Bryant’s club, to $312.51 from $276.39, and bump of 36 percent for next Wednesday’s more affordable matchup against the Hornets ($89 to $121).

“There’s something now for Knicks fans to hang their hats on and get excited about,” said Will Flaherty, SeatGeek’s director of communications. “It’s a really great underdog story. His unique background only adds to that.”
The surge in demand compares favorably to the one the Clippers enjoyed upon acquiring Chris Paul and approached the rush for tickets at the Garden after the Knicks trade for Carmelo Anthony last winter, Flaherty said.
“It lends credence to the argument Lin is driving up ticket prices,” Flaherty said.

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2/8/2012  8:06 AM
“I don’t think anyone, including myself, saw this coming,” Lin said after the game Monday.

earthmansurfer wrote:misterearl - others
Watch that video at the 3:30 mark and the play that develops there, where Lin drivers and throws a slow bounce pass to Novak for three in the corner. I watched that bit a few times and still never saw Lin looking over at Novak. It is amazing. There were 3 defenders there at one point and he throws the pass around two of them as the 3rd is out of bounds.

nice catch earthman.

Even Lin's turnovers are the result of being aggressive and creative. Defenders WILL attempt to double him, or triple him as Utah did on a few trips up the floor, but the reps will only make him more aware. When Amar'e returns, the double teams will be much less effective as a strategy.

The most amazing thing is that Lin outplayed two quality opposing guards for a ridiculous total of 45 minutes. Please get that man some oxygen.

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2/8/2012  8:14 AM
We Must Protect This House

As Utah tried, teams will resort to bumping LIN where possible. There were chip shots and shots that knocked him to the floor. Clyde noted that Lin is stronger than he may appear. In this regard, carrying 200 compact pounds is a good thing. The other Knicks need to be aware of any rough stuff, if teams try to give LIN the business, and IMMEDIATELY have his back. There should not be a nanosecond of hesitation to help him back up. Immediately.

First people to his rescue will be the dynamic and passionate Shumpert, the hard-working Tyson Chandler and his ("you can crash on my sofa bro") buddy Landry Fields.

Jared Jeffries will not wait to jump in.

Team building baby.

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2/8/2012  8:51 AM
hoping that this is not a fluke. Im cautious about getting too excited, mainly from years of being disappointed by the knicks...how many times have we been excited about players that didnt pan out? Frank Williams, Channing Frye, Eddy Curry, Hubert Davis...I really really hope that this kid doesnt regress.

If he can give us 12 and 7 a game while running the offense Ill be happy...I mean he cant be worse than Duhon right?

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2/8/2012  9:01 AM
Go Crazy

izybx wrote:hoping that this is not a fluke. Im cautious about getting too excited, mainly from years of being disappointed by the knicks...how many times have we been excited about players that didnt pan out? Frank Williams, Channing Frye, Eddy Curry, Hubert Davis...I really really hope that this kid doesnt regress.

izybx - The Answer Man feels your pain, but there comes a time in every mans life when he's gotta let go of the past and live in the present. Your fear of LIN regressing ignores his story. Homey has been a winner at every stop since high school. Guys that get a shot like this, with a roster custom made for his talents, do not regress. Why would THAT happen?

Please explain your fear, based on the evidence.

For you to invoke the name of Frank (cough) Williams, and compare the mild interest in Frankie to the level of giddiness we feel now is downright un-American. Frankie NEVER drove up ticket prices. Channing Frye never dropped 28 and 8, Hubert Davis never went to Harvard and Eddy Curry never brought The Garden to its collective feet, chanting "MVP!"

If you are comparing the excitement over those four guys to what is happening now with LIIN, you need a new set of contact lenses.

This is different. WAY different.

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2/8/2012  9:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2012  9:17 AM
Found this cool Linsanity rap on YouTube (linked from the NYT):

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2/8/2012  10:09 AM
misterearl wrote:Go Crazy

izybx wrote:hoping that this is not a fluke. Im cautious about getting too excited, mainly from years of being disappointed by the knicks...how many times have we been excited about players that didnt pan out? Frank Williams, Channing Frye, Eddy Curry, Hubert Davis...I really really hope that this kid doesnt regress.

izybx - The Answer Man feels your pain, but there comes a time in every mans life when he's gotta let go of the past and live in the present. Your fear of LIN regressing ignores his story. Homey has been a winner at every stop since high school. Guys that get a shot like this, with a roster custom made for his talents, do not regress. Why would THAT happen?

Please explain your fear, based on the evidence.

For you to invoke the name of Frank (cough) Williams, and compare the mild interest in Frankie to the level of giddiness we feel now is downright un-American. Frankie NEVER drove up ticket prices. Channing Frye never dropped 28 and 8, Hubert Davis never went to Harvard and Eddy Curry never brought The Garden to its collective feet, chanting "MVP!"

If you are comparing the excitement over those four guys to what is happening now with LIIN, you need a new set of contact lenses.

This is different. WAY different.


Channing Frye had some pretty amazing shooting nights as a rookie. No, he didn't have 8 assists, he wasn't a PG.

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2/8/2012  10:11 AM
moonangie - the video was sweet. Nice catch.

Linception

"The first time (Keith) Webster saw Lin play, against Cornell in Lin’s senior season, his seat was near a group of coaches. The consensus among them was that Lin was not N.B.A. material. (Webster was drafted in the seventh round by the Utah Jazz in 1987)

“I stuck my neck out and said, ‘I think he’s going to make it,’ ” Webster said. “He’s 6-3, really athletic, has good hops and long arms. And his best attribute is his vision. Fundamentally, he leaves his feet a lot and his jump shot’s kind of funky, but he gets to the rim with his crossover and he’s a great finisher. In some sense, it doesn’t surprise me that he made a team and he’s doing well. It just goes to show what you can do if you work hard.”

If Lin can keep Tyson Chandler engaged on offense... and get the ball to Steve Novak in rhythm, his stock(ton) will remain high.

With Carmelo and Stat out the Knicks frontcourt has matchup issues. Shot selection will be more important than ever.

Hit the open man.

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2/8/2012  10:13 AM
I just put on my facebook two words "Jeremy Lin"
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2/8/2012  10:13 AM
Panos wrote:Channing Frye had some pretty amazing shooting nights as a rookie. No, he didn't have 8 assists, he wasn't a PG.

Panos - thank you for that bit of knowledge that Channing Frye was not a point guard. Forget the assists. Did Channing Frye make the guys around him better?

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2/8/2012  10:14 AM
misterearl wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Don't be so judgemental.

Simply needed an explanation. Next time, rather than simply throwing something political out there, consider including your rationale.

And consider how anyone would perceive your words, "... I love he's asian because that guaranties that he starts in next years all star game" as a "joke."

Based on your explanation of Yao Ming's votes - that was no joke.

Thanks Dad.

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2/8/2012  10:33 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:Thanks Dad.

Make certain you bring the car back by 10:30. Next time you and your buddies miss curfew, you are grounded.

No MSG TV for you.

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2/8/2012  10:52 AM
misterearl wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:Thanks Dad.

Make certain you bring the car back by 10:30. Next time you and your buddies miss curfew, you are grounded.

No MSG TV for you.

[STAMP] But Dad!! You promised! My Dad is such an ******* ...

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2/8/2012  10:58 AM
misterearl wrote:
Panos wrote:Channing Frye had some pretty amazing shooting nights as a rookie. No, he didn't have 8 assists, he wasn't a PG.

Panos - thank you for that bit of knowledge that Channing Frye was not a point guard. Forget the assists. Did Channing Frye make the guys around him better?

Also, Channing Frye had no where near the high school and college career as Lin. Channing got on the radar at the end of his senior year. Lin has always produced, but he was always doubted.

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