Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:My problem with melo is that he could have gone to knicks without the knicks having to give up everything they had. I mean lebron as much as i hate him could have made double if he wanted. i mean if we signed melo we would have depth and we could have used those pieces for either dwight or paul

It would have been bad business for Melo to sign with us as a FA with the lock out looming and he had no idea what the collective barganing agreement would look like. Turns out, had he waited, he would have missed out on a ton of money being that FA's can sign with a new team for a yr less than before.

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Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:My problem with melo is that he could have gone to knicks without the knicks having to give up everything they had. I mean lebron as much as i hate him could have made double if he wanted. i mean if we signed melo we would have depth and we could have used those pieces for either dwight or paul

It would have been bad business for Melo to sign with us as a FA with the lock out looming and he had no idea what the collective barganing agreement would look like. Turns out, had he waited, he would have missed out on a ton of money being that FA's can sign with a new team for a yr less than before.

Ok but how did that help us lol?

In order to win big in this league, you need stars. We have one now. Much easier to put pieces around a star player than it is to find that elusive star player (outside of the draft) and add him to your pieces...

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Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:My problem with melo is that he could have gone to knicks without the knicks having to give up everything they had. I mean lebron as much as i hate him could have made double if he wanted. i mean if we signed melo we would have depth and we could have used those pieces for either dwight or paul

It would have been bad business for Melo to sign with us as a FA with the lock out looming and he had no idea what the collective barganing agreement would look like. Turns out, had he waited, he would have missed out on a ton of money being that FA's can sign with a new team for a yr less than before.

Ok but how did that help us lol?

In order to win big in this league, you need stars. We have one now. Much easier to put pieces around a star player than it is to find that elusive star player (outside of the draft) and add him to your pieces...

well i agree that baron davis and shumpert could be pieces that make this work. but to be fair so far the knicks haven't gotten the better of the deal. that doesn't mean they wont in the end but even you gotta say that right now in teh present moment its hasn't worked yet

We'll just have to agree to disagree...We are a better team now than we were before the trade IMO...

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Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:My problem with melo is that he could have gone to knicks without the knicks having to give up everything they had. I mean lebron as much as i hate him could have made double if he wanted. i mean if we signed melo we would have depth and we could have used those pieces for either dwight or paul

It would have been bad business for Melo to sign with us as a FA with the lock out looming and he had no idea what the collective barganing agreement would look like. Turns out, had he waited, he would have missed out on a ton of money being that FA's can sign with a new team for a yr less than before.

Ok but how did that help us lol?

In order to win big in this league, you need stars. We have one now. Much easier to put pieces around a star player than it is to find that elusive star player (outside of the draft) and add him to your pieces...

well i agree that baron davis and shumpert could be pieces that make this work. but to be fair so far the knicks haven't gotten the better of the deal. that doesn't mean they wont in the end but even you gotta say that right now in teh present moment its hasn't worked yet

We'll just have to agree to disagree...We are a better team now than we were before the trade IMO...

Ya you're right we are playing great

Last years team doesn't beat Boston on Christmas..This team is better. No, we haven't looked good over the last 2 but I still believe we are better...

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Uptown wrote:

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Uptown wrote:

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Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:My problem with melo is that he could have gone to knicks without the knicks having to give up everything they had. I mean lebron as much as i hate him could have made double if he wanted. i mean if we signed melo we would have depth and we could have used those pieces for either dwight or paul

It would have been bad business for Melo to sign with us as a FA with the lock out looming and he had no idea what the collective barganing agreement would look like. Turns out, had he waited, he would have missed out on a ton of money being that FA's can sign with a new team for a yr less than before.

Ok but how did that help us lol?

In order to win big in this league, you need stars. We have one now. Much easier to put pieces around a star player than it is to find that elusive star player (outside of the draft) and add him to your pieces...

well i agree that baron davis and shumpert could be pieces that make this work. but to be fair so far the knicks haven't gotten the better of the deal. that doesn't mean they wont in the end but even you gotta say that right now in teh present moment its hasn't worked yet

We'll just have to agree to disagree...We are a better team now than we were before the trade IMO...

Ya you're right we are playing great

Last years team doesn't beat Boston on Christmas..This team is better. No, we haven't looked good over the last 2 but I still believe we are better...

Dude lets be fair we beat them without their best player and still almost lost. If you want to say we are even i'll give you that but until we see it i can't lie and say its true. I'm a huge kniicks fan but i'm honest

same boston team missing pierce came back to almost beat the Heat in miami, too. beating boston counts for something.

nixluva wrote:So now we're gonna not count wins against teams due to injury. How come we can't use that as an excuse for when we lose with guys injured? F'n hypocrites!!! I hate that crap. Make up your minds. If we can't use the injury excuse then you can't kill a Knick win cuz a team has an injury!!!

The trade sets up a core that allows you to always be one key addition from title contention. Sure we don't have every slot filled with a premium guy, but there's still time to improve the roster around our core. We still have our Room exemption to use.

CashMoney wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

nixluva wrote:So now we're gonna not count wins against teams due to injury. How come we can't use that as an excuse for when we lose with guys injured? F'n hypocrites!!! I hate that crap. Make up your minds. If we can't use the injury excuse then you can't kill a Knick win cuz a team has an injury!!!

The trade sets up a core that allows you to always be one key addition from title contention. Sure we don't have every slot filled with a premium guy, but there's still time to improve the roster around our core. We still have our Room exemption to use.

Don't get your tampons in a bunch lol. Just kidding. I'm not saying it didn't count. i'm just saying record wise the knicks haven't been better tahn the knicks before the melo trade. I mean some people act like the knicks were a last plac team before melo but in fact we were over .500 and in the playoffs spot already. the question is not if melo is a good player because he is. the question is we gave up a good point guard in felton, two good forwards, a center who is getting better, and draft picks for melo. So far we were sept in teh first round and are 1-2 so far so i'm hoping we will get the better of teh trade but people need to be a little honest

Honest is we have the best front line in the NBA. In additon we have a starting PG healing up and 2 pretty good rookies in Jorts and Shump. Oh yeah we also have a project C ala Mozzy. We're now 2-2 and have 62 games left. This team is going to be special and a hell of a lot better than what we had. Gallo is still a project as far as I'm concerned as witness by his wide open blow lay up to tie the game aginst the Lakers today.

CashMoney wrote:

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CashMoney wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

nixluva wrote:So now we're gonna not count wins against teams due to injury. How come we can't use that as an excuse for when we lose with guys injured? F'n hypocrites!!! I hate that crap. Make up your minds. If we can't use the injury excuse then you can't kill a Knick win cuz a team has an injury!!!

The trade sets up a core that allows you to always be one key addition from title contention. Sure we don't have every slot filled with a premium guy, but there's still time to improve the roster around our core. We still have our Room exemption to use.

Don't get your tampons in a bunch lol. Just kidding. I'm not saying it didn't count. i'm just saying record wise the knicks haven't been better tahn the knicks before the melo trade. I mean some people act like the knicks were a last plac team before melo but in fact we were over .500 and in the playoffs spot already. the question is not if melo is a good player because he is. the question is we gave up a good point guard in felton, two good forwards, a center who is getting better, and draft picks for melo. So far we were sept in teh first round and are 1-2 so far so i'm hoping we will get the better of teh trade but people need to be a little honest

Honest is we have the best front line in the NBA. In additon we have a starting PG healing up and 2 pretty good rookies in Jorts and Shump. Oh yeah we also have a project C ala Mozzy. We're now 2-2 and have 62 games left. This team is going to be special and a hell of a lot better than what we had. Gallo is still a project as far as I'm concerned as witness by his wide open blow lay up to tie the game aginst the Lakers today.

I never said we wont end up with the better part of the deal. I simply said it hasn't happened yet. I'm sorry man i can't lie and say we've been wonderful. Now if we start playing consistently then i'll say it was a success. its only fair don't you think?

It's going to take time. Bashing them based on 30+ games last year and 3 this year isn't all that fair. 2 pre season games 1 solid win, 2 crap games followed by another solid win. This team is going to be legit just can't wait to have everyone healed up.

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JCrusher wrote:

nixluva wrote:So now we're gonna not count wins against teams due to injury. How come we can't use that as an excuse for when we lose with guys injured? F'n hypocrites!!! I hate that crap. Make up your minds. If we can't use the injury excuse then you can't kill a Knick win cuz a team has an injury!!!

The trade sets up a core that allows you to always be one key addition from title contention. Sure we don't have every slot filled with a premium guy, but there's still time to improve the roster around our core. We still have our Room exemption to use.

Don't get your tampons in a bunch lol. Just kidding. I'm not saying it didn't count. i'm just saying record wise the knicks haven't been better tahn the knicks before the melo trade. I mean some people act like the knicks were a last plac team before melo but in fact we were over .500 and in the playoffs spot already. the question is not if melo is a good player because he is. the question is we gave up a good point guard in felton, two good forwards, a center who is getting better, and draft picks for melo. So far we were sept in teh first round and are 1-2 so far so i'm hoping we will get the better of teh trade but people need to be a little honest

Please correct me if I am wrong. What we gave up for Melo is a sh!tton. But we still got the better end of the deal. So we turned a bunch of good players into a star player. Or maybe you don't think we got the better end of the deal? Other teams would not give offers as good or better than us? Or maybe you are just simply saying that we could have gotten him for less?

If you think we gave up too much and got less in return, I can only shake my head and I will not even argue because everyone knows it takes stars to win. If you are saying that we could have gotten him for less than what we paid -I applaud you. Good observation, you might be right. Or you might be wrong. Either way it would probably be a bad idea to find out in real life. But hindsight is always 20/20.

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:My problem with melo is that he could have gone to knicks without the knicks having to give up everything they had. I mean lebron as much as i hate him could have made double if he wanted. i mean if we signed melo we would have depth and we could have used those pieces for either dwight or paul

It would have been bad business for Melo to sign with us as a FA with the lock out looming and he had no idea what the collective barganing agreement would look like. Turns out, had he waited, he would have missed out on a ton of money being that FA's can sign with a new team for a yr less than before.

Ok but how did that help us lol?

In order to win big in this league, you need stars. We have one now. Much easier to put pieces around a star player than it is to find that elusive star player (outside of the draft) and add him to your pieces...

well i agree that baron davis and shumpert could be pieces that make this work. but to be fair so far the knicks haven't gotten the better of the deal. that doesn't mean they wont in the end but even you gotta say that right now in teh present moment its hasn't worked yet

We'll just have to agree to disagree...We are a better team now than we were before the trade IMO...

Ya you're right we are playing great

Last years team doesn't beat Boston on Christmas..This team is better. No, we haven't looked good over the last 2 but I still believe we are better...

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JCrusher wrote:My problem with melo is that he could have gone to knicks without the knicks having to give up everything they had. I mean lebron as much as i hate him could have made double if he wanted. i mean if we signed melo we would have depth and we could have used those pieces for either dwight or paul

It would have been bad business for Melo to sign with us as a FA with the lock out looming and he had no idea what the collective barganing agreement would look like. Turns out, had he waited, he would have missed out on a ton of money being that FA's can sign with a new team for a yr less than before.

Ok but how did that help us lol?

In order to win big in this league, you need stars. We have one now. Much easier to put pieces around a star player than it is to find that elusive star player (outside of the draft) and add him to your pieces...

well i agree that baron davis and shumpert could be pieces that make this work. but to be fair so far the knicks haven't gotten the better of the deal. that doesn't mean they wont in the end but even you gotta say that right now in teh present moment its hasn't worked yet

We'll just have to agree to disagree...We are a better team now than we were before the trade IMO...

Ya you're right we are playing great

Last years team doesn't beat Boston on Christmas..This team is better. No, we haven't looked good over the last 2 but I still believe we are better...

Have you not seen how bad this aging Boston team without Pierce is?