BRIGGS wrote:this team is amare and ca and very little else and likely will stay that way

Now why would you say something like this? You do remember that the Knicks have capspace coming up and contrary to what many think they also still have Draft picks. Just not every year. This franchise has options to improve even if they don't add CP3. This franchise is in great shape!!! If in fact CP3 ends up going somewhere else before the start of the season, the Knicks can use their MLE on someone now to help.

He's still waiting for Andre Bynum to come save us.

BRIGGS wrote:this team is amare and ca

and very little else

and likely will stay that way

BRIGGS wrote:this team is amare and ca and very little else and likely will stay that way

LOOK whose is back! Good to see you alive and writing!

I have a feeling Knicks are ending up with him. I would rather not if it means getting rid of too much because I think our bigger need is at C and depth. But it sounds like NOLA wants this over with ASAP. And unless someone is willing to rent him, the Knicks are the only game in town.

The Los Angeles Clippers have been aggressive in their pursuit of New Orleans Hornets guard Chris Paul, but their initial offer to Hornets general manager Dell Demps did not include either shooting guard Eric Gordon or restricted free agent center DeAndre Jordan, according to a source with knowledge of the discussions.

The Clippers, Golden State Warriors and Boston Celtics have been the most aggressive teams pursuing Paul, but so far the Clippers have been the least desperate to land him because they believe they are set up to win in the short and long term if they can re-sign Jordan, extend Gordon this year and Blake Griffin next year and upgrade at the small forward position either through free agency or with Minnesota's unprotected first round pick in 2012.

The Clippers are reluctant to part with either Gordon or Jordan in any trade for Paul, the source said, because Paul hasn't given any assurances he will re-sign with them following the 2011-12 season and owner Donald Sterling is still deeply stung from the way forward Elton Brand burned the Clippers in 2008 by signing with the Philadelphia 76ers.

The franchise has just begun to dig itself out of the crater Brand's unexpected defection left behind. Point guard Baron Davis, whom Brand recruited to join him in L.A., was shipped off to Cleveland last February at great cost, the Clippers 2011 first-round pick that ended up as the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.

Without assurances that Paul will commit to the franchise long term, the Clippers are reluctant to break up their core group of young players or future draft picks they feel are essential to convincing Griffin to sign an extension with them next summer.

Paul has let it be known that signing free-agent center Tyson Chandler would increase his chances of re-signing with any team that trades for him, the source said, but at this point the Clippers have no intention of pursuing Chandler because is expected to command a deal of between $12-15 million per season, significantly more than Jordan, whom they are optimistic they can re-sign for a five-year deal between $7-9 million per year.

The Clippers' initial offer to New Orleans did include future draft picks, the source said. They also indicated they would be willing to absorb the contracts of players like small forward Trevor Ariza.

While Gordon and Jordan are obviously the Clippers' most desirable trade assets, the team also has former first-round picks Eric Bledsoe and Al-Farouq Aminu, the expiring contract of center Chris Kaman and Minnesota's unprotected first-round pick in 2012.

Paul has been the Clippers primary trade target. While the team also has interest in Orlando's Dwight Howard, it has yet to engage any substantive discussions with the Magic, the source said. Still, at this point Paul is the Clippers' primary target because his game would mesh better with Griffin and Gordon than Howard.

No trades can be completed until a new collective bargaining agreement is passed by the players association and the owners.

Source: http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7325398/source-eric-gordon-deandre-jordan-not-los-angeles-clippers-chris-paul-offer

Jordan
Griffin
Ariza
Gordon
Paul

crzymdups wrote:i kind of hope this ends this week. but all this still boils down to what chris paul wants to do. will ANY team give up a huge package if they're told chris paul intends to sign with the knicks in july? i highly doubt it. i think this thing drags out til the trade deadline.

You honestly believe Chris Paul would leave the LA Clippers if they can keep Jordan, Griffin, and Gordon? Plus they would have his bird rights.

If the Hornets pull the trigger on that deal it's bye bye Chris Paul.

AnubisADL wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i kind of hope this ends this week. but all this still boils down to what chris paul wants to do. will ANY team give up a huge package if they're told chris paul intends to sign with the knicks in july? i highly doubt it. i think this thing drags out til the trade deadline.

You honestly believe Chris Paul would leave the LA Clippers if they can keep Jordan, Griffin, and Gordon? Plus they would have his bird rights.

If the Hornets pull the trigger on that deal it's bye bye Chris Paul.

you honestly think new orleans agrees to any trade with the clippers that doesn't involve them getting both gordon and jordan?

that crappy offer they made isn't gonna get anything done. it's a conversation starter at best. if the clips don't up their offer, the conversation is over. or to put it like CBS did:

So if the Clippers aren't giving Gordon, and they aren't giving DeAndre Jordan... what exactly are they giving? Because Al Farouq-Aminu is one of my personal favorite young forwards, but he and Eric Bledsoe along with the Minnesota pick aren't going to get it done. The whole reason the Clippers are in conversations is because they have more to offer New Orleans, not because they're some power franchise, even with Blake Griffin. There's simply no way the Hornets sacrifice Paul for that kind of package, no matter how good the 2012 draft class is. At that point, taking the Knicks' offer might be better for the cap savings. The Clippers are going to have to step up if they want to get the best pure point guard in the NBA.

http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/33740554

crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i kind of hope this ends this week. but all this still boils down to what chris paul wants to do. will ANY team give up a huge package if they're told chris paul intends to sign with the knicks in july? i highly doubt it. i think this thing drags out til the trade deadline.

You honestly believe Chris Paul would leave the LA Clippers if they can keep Jordan, Griffin, and Gordon? Plus they would have his bird rights.

If the Hornets pull the trigger on that deal it's bye bye Chris Paul.

you honestly think new orleans agrees to any trade with the clippers that doesn't involve them getting both gordon and jordan?

that crappy offer they made isn't gonna get anything done. it's a conversation starter at best. if the clips don't up their offer, the conversation is over. or to put it like CBS did:

So if the Clippers aren't giving Gordon, and they aren't giving DeAndre Jordan... what exactly are they giving? Because Al Farouq-Aminu is one of my personal favorite young forwards, but he and Eric Bledsoe along with the Minnesota pick aren't going to get it done. The whole reason the Clippers are in conversations is because they have more to offer New Orleans, not because they're some power franchise, even with Blake Griffin. There's simply no way the Hornets sacrifice Paul for that kind of package, no matter how good the 2012 draft class is. At that point, taking the Knicks' offer might be better for the cap savings. The Clippers are going to have to step up if they want to get the best pure point guard in the NBA.

http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/33740554

Clippers can offer cap savings as well. They could trade Okafor for Kaman if they just wanted to blow money. However I doubt the Clippers are doing that without Chris Paul extending which he is NOT going to do regardless.

Paul and Okafor
for
Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe, Foye, and Minnesota's pick

I doubt Clippers do a deal like that without Paul taking an extend and trade though.