Paladin55 wrote:

STARTERS	        MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
Anthony Randolph, PF	17	0-5	0-0	3-6	1	3	4	0	1	0	3	4	-4	3

Uh-oh... results against the bad boys from Boston.

Since nobody else was going to post this...

Yeah, I noticed that and will take my lumps. Looks like he got into foul trouble against a big front line. Still think we gave him away. 0-5 is not terrible, we've been seeing similar offensive efficiency from Stat for about 2 weeks now, minus the defensive EFFORT (ok, I'm exaggerating).

earthmansurfer wrote:

markvmc wrote:Get back to me when there's an average that covers a more meaningful spell than 2 games.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3455/year/2010/anthony-randolph

Here is his one month stats in 2010, but he did almost the same for two months and then he got hurt, then he came here...
12pts, 6.6 rebs, 2.3 assists, 2.2 blocks, .8 stls 46% FG, 80%FT in 25 minutes a game

It's not like he hasn't performed before. He looks healthy and seems to be capable of performing above these numbers.

I wanted to keep him- just wished he had shown more when he did play for us. There were times when I could not believe how ineffective he was- even doing the most basic things- and the athletic ability he seems to have back now, and showed while with GS, never showed itself when he was a Knick-undoubtedly because he was still recovering from his injury.

You can't help but question the numbers some on Minny put up when their team record is so dismal, though. If you look at each of their players as individuals- you see some good things, but you have to wonder why they have had so little success as a team.

Do we make too much of a big deal over stats?

earthmansurfer wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

markvmc wrote:Get back to me when there's an average that covers a more meaningful spell than 2 games.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3455/year/2010/anthony-randolph

Here is his one month stats in 2010, but he did almost the same for two months and then he got hurt, then he came here...
12pts, 6.6 rebs, 2.3 assists, 2.2 blocks, .8 stls 46% FG, 80%FT in 25 minutes a game

It's not like he hasn't performed before. He looks healthy and seems to be capable of performing above these numbers.

I wanted to keep him- just wished he had shown more when he did play for us. There were times when I could not believe how ineffective he was- even doing the most basic things- and the athletic ability he seems to have back now, and showed while with GS, never showed itself when he was a Knick-undoubtedly because he was still recovering from his injury.

You can't help but question the numbers some on Minny put up when their team record is so dismal, though. If you look at each of their players as individuals- you see some good things, but you have to wonder why they have had so little success as a team.

Do we make too much of a big deal over stats?

I hear what you are saying about stats. They are not the end with all with me. I think what it comes down to with Randolph is that he wasn't really given a chance here. Spot minutes don't show much at all, especially for a rookie. Then at the end he appeared afraid to do anything (for a time) because of being in the doghouse.

In fairness to playing on Minny, you can't discount a player merely because they play on a sucky team. What about Love? A little bit like David Lee in that he can't put them over the hump, but it doesn't mean he's not a good player. Same for AR, though it will take some time.

I just don't get how Jeffries is better than AR when Jeffries is a liability on offense. Our coach is a control freak, and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt with AR as AR doesn't seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed - that said, we weren't world beaters and were at .500. I will probably always question coach's rotations as they often make no sense. The latest of which is Derek Brown not getting any minutes on a gutted team - having a finisher is not a bad thing on a team with Melo and Stat and Billups. Especially in light of Fields hitting a wall, as well as Stat.

Jeffries is playing because we're short and have few options. That said, it sucked to see AR go, but who was he playing ahead? Gallo? Chandler? We were trying to win games and we couldn't afford the defensive lapses and inattention to detail that Randolph showed. Minny isn't winning anyway, so they can afford to take their lumps with AR. Same thing with Beasley. AR has a lot to learn and a situation like Minnesota, where there is no pressure, is the best stage for him to do that.

earthmansurfer wrote:I will probably always question coach's rotations as they often make no sense. The latest of which is Derek Brown not getting any minutes on a gutted team - having a finisher is not a bad thing on a team with Melo and Stat and Billups. Especially in light of Fields hitting a wall, as well as Stat.

I'm also a bit annoyed that Brown does not get some burn. The only defense I can make for MDA is that he has seen Brown play in the few practices he has participated in and has not been impressed. With the decline of Fields, though, I can't understand why he does not get any minutes when it counts.

loweyecue wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

markvmc wrote:Get back to me when there's an average that covers a more meaningful spell than 2 games.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3455/year/2010/anthony-randolph

Here is his one month stats in 2010, but he did almost the same for two months and then he got hurt, then he came here...
12pts, 6.6 rebs, 2.3 assists, 2.2 blocks, .8 stls 46% FG, 80%FT in 25 minutes a game

It's not like he hasn't performed before. He looks healthy and seems to be capable of performing above these numbers.

I wanted to keep him- just wished he had shown more when he did play for us. There were times when I could not believe how ineffective he was- even doing the most basic things- and the athletic ability he seems to have back now, and showed while with GS, never showed itself when he was a Knick-undoubtedly because he was still recovering from his injury.

You can't help but question the numbers some on Minny put up when their team record is so dismal, though. If you look at each of their players as individuals- you see some good things, but you have to wonder why they have had so little success as a team.

Do we make too much of a big deal over stats?

Plus Rambis is a coach who really reaches his players, benches his starters as needed and gets the most out of them! 17-59 speaks fo itself! Only Knick fans can covet people from a team like that.

Anthony Randolph(notes), Minnesota Timberwolves

Per-minute, Randolph has played at a nearly All-Star level for the Timberwolves, which has to be terribly frustrating for Knicks fans. Even accounting for Minnesota's heightened pace and his unfamiliarity with what the Timberwolves still call "the triangle offense," Randolph has come through with great numbers. Per game? Double-figure points, five boards and 50 percent shooting in only 18 minutes per game in Minnesota.

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

markvmc wrote:Get back to me when there's an average that covers a more meaningful spell than 2 games.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3455/year/2010/anthony-randolph

Here is his one month stats in 2010, but he did almost the same for two months and then he got hurt, then he came here...
12pts, 6.6 rebs, 2.3 assists, 2.2 blocks, .8 stls 46% FG, 80%FT in 25 minutes a game

It's not like he hasn't performed before. He looks healthy and seems to be capable of performing above these numbers.

I wanted to keep him- just wished he had shown more when he did play for us. There were times when I could not believe how ineffective he was- even doing the most basic things- and the athletic ability he seems to have back now, and showed while with GS, never showed itself when he was a Knick-undoubtedly because he was still recovering from his injury.

You can't help but question the numbers some on Minny put up when their team record is so dismal, though. If you look at each of their players as individuals- you see some good things, but you have to wonder why they have had so little success as a team.

Do we make too much of a big deal over stats?

Plus Rambis is a coach who really reaches his players, benches his starters as needed and gets the most out of them! 17-59 speaks fo itself! Only Knick fans can covet people from a team like that.

From Kelly Dwyer's column:

Anthony Randolph(notes), Minnesota Timberwolves

Per-minute, Randolph has played at a nearly All-Star level for the Timberwolves, which has to be terribly frustrating for Knicks fans. Even accounting for Minnesota's heightened pace and his unfamiliarity with what the Timberwolves still call "the triangle offense," Randolph has come through with great numbers. Per game? Double-figure points, five boards and 50 percent shooting in only 18 minutes per game in Minnesota.

Anthony Randolph has alwaysput up numbers for losing teams with zero expectations, it's what he does. What I don't get is why it's a thread on this forum.

loweyecue wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

markvmc wrote:Get back to me when there's an average that covers a more meaningful spell than 2 games.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3455/year/2010/anthony-randolph

Here is his one month stats in 2010, but he did almost the same for two months and then he got hurt, then he came here...
12pts, 6.6 rebs, 2.3 assists, 2.2 blocks, .8 stls 46% FG, 80%FT in 25 minutes a game

It's not like he hasn't performed before. He looks healthy and seems to be capable of performing above these numbers.

I wanted to keep him- just wished he had shown more when he did play for us. There were times when I could not believe how ineffective he was- even doing the most basic things- and the athletic ability he seems to have back now, and showed while with GS, never showed itself when he was a Knick-undoubtedly because he was still recovering from his injury.

You can't help but question the numbers some on Minny put up when their team record is so dismal, though. If you look at each of their players as individuals- you see some good things, but you have to wonder why they have had so little success as a team.

Do we make too much of a big deal over stats?

Plus Rambis is a coach who really reaches his players, benches his starters as needed and gets the most out of them! 17-59 speaks fo itself! Only Knick fans can covet people from a team like that.

From Kelly Dwyer's column:

Anthony Randolph(notes), Minnesota Timberwolves

Per-minute, Randolph has played at a nearly All-Star level for the Timberwolves, which has to be terribly frustrating for Knicks fans. Even accounting for Minnesota's heightened pace and his unfamiliarity with what the Timberwolves still call "the triangle offense," Randolph has come through with great numbers. Per game? Double-figure points, five boards and 50 percent shooting in only 18 minutes per game in Minnesota.

Anthony Randolph has alwaysput up numbers for losing teams with zero expectations, it's what he does. What I don't get is why it's a thread on this forum.

Because some people liked him draft night and others bought the hype later. He can do so amazing things when he has the basketball in his possession... but that's about it