CrushAlot wrote:Post is reporting that the new CBA 'may' force Williams to have to resign with them.

If it would "force" him to re-sign with the Nets, than it would've "forced" him to re-sign with Utah...and I doubt Utah would trade him if they could keep him.

The Nets are going to go balls out to acquire some running mates for Deron- and we'll see if they are a success or failure. They needed to do something to make themselves more exciting for the move.

SupremeCommander wrote:and Detroit won there chip a reallllllllllllllllllllllllly long time ago. I like Billups but I think he's living of some earlier in the career good will with some of you

Look at Billups splits.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/63/chauncey-billups

Tell which PG has been playing better since December.

Factor in this:

Denver has a better record.

Denver scores more than the KNicks.

Denver plays at a similar place.

Denver averages as many teams assists a game as the Knicks.

Playoff experience.

Billups in indeed 34, but anyone saying he is NOT an upgrade based solely on that fact is turning a blink eye to actual results.

VDesai wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Post is reporting that the new CBA 'may' force Williams to have to resign with them.

If it would "force" him to re-sign with the Nets, than it would've "forced" him to re-sign with Utah...and I doubt Utah would trade him if they could keep him.

The Nets are going to go balls out to acquire some running mates for Deron- and we'll see if they are a success or failure. They needed to do something to make themselves more exciting for the move.

What attractive assets do the Nets have left to get running mates, again?

Travis Outlaw signed to a five year deal?

Only asset is Brook Lopez and he's been de-valued by his own play.

CashMoney wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:yeah I don't think Billups is an upgrade. He's obviously good, but there's no way he can play as many minutes as Felton. Which means way too much of Toney Douglas

Once again we're left to trying to get people to realize Felton hasn't been playing well since mid-December.

Look at the splits.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2753/raymond-felton

A PG of Felton's skillset can NOT be shooting as poorly behind the arc as Felton is, particularly given his enthusiasm for shooting it.

I like Felton but he's living of some early good will with some of you.

and Detroit won there chip a reallllllllllllllllllllllllly long time ago. I like Billups but I think he's living of some earlier in the career good will with some of you

I have a TON of gratitude for Felton changing the culture here. His attitude is a HUGE reason why the other guys we traded were desired.

Chauncey is avergaing 16 and 5 and knocking down over 40% of his 3's and usual 90% plus from the line. He's not going to play Felton minutes but he's an upgrade.

The minutes HAVE TO BE factored in, as well as his age and the pace he will be asked to play. Look, i'm not upset that Chauncey Billups is going to be giving the Knicks 30 MPG. But what's going to happen when he has to play 42 the first night of a back-to-back

crzymdups wrote:

VDesai wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Post is reporting that the new CBA 'may' force Williams to have to resign with them.

If it would "force" him to re-sign with the Nets, than it would've "forced" him to re-sign with Utah...and I doubt Utah would trade him if they could keep him.

The Nets are going to go balls out to acquire some running mates for Deron- and we'll see if they are a success or failure. They needed to do something to make themselves more exciting for the move.

What attractive assets do the Nets have left to get running mates, again?

Travis Outlaw signed to a five year deal?

Only asset is Brook Lopez and he's been de-valued by his own play.

SupremeCommander wrote:The minutes HAVE TO BE factored in, as well as his age and the pace he will be asked to play. Look, i'm not upset that Chauncey Billups is going to be giving the Knicks 30 MPG. But what's going to happen when he has to play 42 the first night of a back-to-back

Pace is relatively the same.

And he averages 32.3m a game. Last year he averaged 35. The difference is likely more due to Lawson being a very capable back-up.

Nash is averaging 33.3.

Kidd 33.7.

Playing the age card is pretty weak.

If there is evidence that Chauncey Billups can't 33m a night, produce it.

"34" doesn't cut the mustard.

NJ always ends up with the superior PG's. Jason Kidd and now Deron Williams.

Im HIGHLY salty right now. I love some Carmelo but Deron Williams is a beast.

Knickoftime wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:The minutes HAVE TO BE factored in, as well as his age and the pace he will be asked to play. Look, i'm not upset that Chauncey Billups is going to be giving the Knicks 30 MPG. But what's going to happen when he has to play 42 the first night of a back-to-back

Pace is relatively the same.

And he averages 32.3m a game. Last year he averaged 35. The difference is likely more due to Lawson being a very capable back-up.

Nash is averaging 33.3.

Kidd 33.7.

Playing the age card is pretty weak.

If there is evidence that Chauncey Billups can't 33m a night, produce it.

"34" doesn't cut the mustard.

Billups is a short term upgrade, but Felton was a good fall back option if we couldnt sign or trade for a star PG. Thats exhasted now. Same with Mosgov at center. Would have been nice to keep one of those guys but thus is life