eViL wrote:fishmike wrote:eViL wrote:wait for melo in free agency. if we trade all our assets to get him, how do we upgrade once he's here? that's the thing I never see addressed. all i ever see is that melo is better than gallo and chandler and fields combined. yeah, no sh!t. but once he's on the team and we're capped out, what are we adding? did everyone forget that we'll be in the same conference with the heat for the next 4 years. here we are, poised to pick the guy up for nothing and we're clamoring to waste valuable assets on him. terrible. it's gone as far as people making up hypothetical new CBA provisions to try and sway us to trade. really? c'mon son. oh yeah, he's gonna sign with denver now because of the uncertainty of the CBA. yeah, that's it. under the new CBA, if there's no franchise tag, then they'll just squeeze down player salaries so far that melo will be getting paid $500,000 a year. he can't risk it. please. we all know superstars will get paid superstar money. that ain't changing. a smart team waits. and a smart player, if melo is one, realizes his new team will need their assets to use in another trade to fetch the 3rd guy (you know? the guy that isn't a free agent this summer).
you not being fair to the 3 posters who have address this topic 10,000xThey have said several times "you go out and get the great role players."
And if there is any doubt about who are these guys your getting
"role players are always available"
See? Problem solved
haha. fish please be less specific. haha... while i get that "role players are always available," what i'm getting at is: how do we complete the 3-star unit that we will need to compete if we trade all our assets?
melo + amare + role players < wade + lebron + bosh + role players.
if the idea is to get this team to a championship level then the benchmark has to be the heat and the celtics. both of those teams not only have a high level "big 3" but they have solid supporting casts. here we are, poised to add superstar number 2 in free agency with assets leftover to get superstar number 3 -- we can't let panic dictate the plan.
melo has to be on board and take this to free agency. if not, f him. the heat could not have done it without their big 3 working things out via free agency on their own terms. if melo wants to compete as bad as the heat's 3, then he has to come as a free agent.
Knicks could get him now if the deal is right.
Say Knicks offer Fields, Chandler, Curry, cash, their own 2013 first rounder and another first rounder for AR or AR himself (whichever Denver wants) for Melo.
Lets say Denver is close but wont do it without more cap relief, so we add Azubuke and they add Harrington's horrific contract.
Knicks end up with this:
PG Felton 26
SG Melo 26
SF Gallo 22
PF Amare 28
C Mosgov 24
Bench: Harrington, Douglas, Williams, Turiaf
I'm thinking of this starting core as long term, 3-4 years of that starting group. It still had good young legs, star power, great size at every position. Melo (or Gallo) is a position away at SG, but we have seen Gallo guard wings very well, and when you look at their games this is a positive for the Knicks, not a drawback (as opposed to Spree playing the 3).
After that your looking at Walsh doing his thing with the draft and FAs as he try to rebuilds the pipeline and stocks up assets. Even if he never lands another Fields or Mosgov your still looking like a top team in the east
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