GustavBahler wrote:

TMS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

TMS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

TMS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:It sounds like you are giving Felton a pass for looking for his shot first which he and TD have been doing, taking the lion share of the shot attempts, that's not Gallo's fault.

i have to disagree w/u on that point... Gallo's been shooting horribly of late, u can't expect to get the ball if you can't knock down your shots... many of the shots he's been missing are wide open looks... that doesn't instill confidence from your PG if you can't knock down those shots.

Just because Gallo isn't shooting well doesn't mean Felton should take more shots than anyone else unless no one else can find the rim. Sometimes its just a case of Felton forcing the issue and not looking for his teammates. He was playing smart during that streak, he got the P&R going with Stat and he was driving and dishing, I don't see much of that anymore. That's not Gallo's fault. What is Gallo's fault are those drama queen flops he does when he gets stripped of the ball, not taking it to the rim enough. He was for a stretch but he can't seem to do it consistently.

shooting .115 from 3 pt range this month isn't his fault?

LOL, smart ass . That too.

ok just checking

seriously tho, i agree Felton hasn't been doing as good a job as he was earlier in the PnR but i do think other teams have tightened up their PnR defense on us & have focused on taking that aspect of the game away... that's pretty much taken us out of our game... i've watched every single minute of every game this season so far i think Felton has had his ups & downs like anyone else but for the most part he's been a positive presence on this team... i think we're simply short on talent to win games consistently... we can't have Felton as our #2 scoring option i agree w/u on that, but really right now there are no other better options to fill that role... until Gallo & Wilson can get their shooting touch back, Felton is our best option especially down the stretch of games, he's got the handle, quickness & strength to penetrate deep into the paint & breakdown a defense... i will agree that he needs to cut down on those times when he dribbles downcourt & tosses up a 3 right away instead of looking to set up a play... i think right now there's a lack of confidence in the rest of his teammates, none of them have earned it other than Amare this year... when Gallo & Wilson break out of their funks i'm confident that Felton will be taking less shots.

Don't believe we are too far apart on what we want from Felton. Its not a good sign that the better teams can shut down the P&R. If there was ever a case for Melo, games like these are it. He can spread out the floor and hopefully make it easier for Stat to get going, they wouldn't be keying in on him as much.

i agree 100%... we need another consistent offensive threat... Gallo or Wilson aren't providing it.

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BigSm00th wrote:

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BigSm00th wrote:

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abs wrote:its interesting when people suggest gallo disappears from watching all the games when he does play inconsistent i thinks its because he is not getting enough touches and shots...look at how many less fga he has then stat felton chandler even when he has gotten hot this year we then stop going to him for long stretches right after.... i have always believed he needs the ball in his hands more keep him involved so he cant disappear and when he does have the ball in his hands good things usual happen

I agree. I wonder how much better Gallo would play with more of a pass first PG? You could also say that for the rest of the team.

part of being a go-to player is demanding the ball. in the games you are watching do you notice when amare demands the ball and takes his man? i've seen gallo do that very rarely. look at all the top scorers -- lebron, kobe, durant -- if they're not getting the ball they don't just stand passively in the corner. that's what gallo does. its as much on him as it is the coach or felton.

Demanding the ball? A PG shouldn't have to wait for anyone to demand anything, if he is open, if he has the hot hand, give him the ball. I've seen gallo put his arms up to signal he's free, other than that its Felton's job to be distribute the ball within the flow of the offense. I was seeing it during that streak earlier in the season but I don't see much of that now, those assist numbers don't tell the whole story. The only guy who should be demanding the ball is Stat, the rest of them Felton should find without them having to tell him anything.

no, the point is, when the knicks O is sputtering gallo has to say "gimme the ball i'm gonna get to the line or get a bucket." dirk does it, kobe does it, durant does it, paul pierce does it. its the sign of a go to offensive player. if gallo wants to be that guy, which i think he could, its on him to say "get me the goddamn ball and get outta the way." its not on felton. felton isn't steve nash and that's not how it works. you think MJ would wait for ron harper to find him? hell no. he said "throw me the ball and get outta the way." i know i sound like mark jackson but its true. gallo has the skills, there are games he gets to the line 10+ times and he's had big scoring nights. the fact that he doesn't score 20 a game is on gallo for not wanting it. he has the talent.

You could say that about the rest of the team as well. Not sure why you are singling Gallo out. All the guys you named have a post up game, Gallo doesn't right now. You keep throwing the ball to the same guy on the wing and they are going to shut him down unless he is someone like Melo.

The guys you named are superstars, leaders of their team. Like I said, if anyone should be doing that its Stat, not Gallo. Gallo isn't good enough to take over games by himself at this point, and he doesn't command enough respect to be treated like a superstar, not by Felton.

It sounds like you are giving Felton a pass for looking for his shot first which he and TD have been doing, taking the lion share of the shot attempts, that's not Gallo's fault.

i don't really understand you. i imagine you like gallo so much b/c you are enamored with his talent. yet you ignore some good aspects of his game to attempt to force your point home.

gallo HAS taken over games this year. during our win streak early in the year gallo hit some HUGE shots -- against LAC and against GS both road games i remember gallo hitting 2 to 3 HUGE 3s to lead us to the W. during our first west coast trip which we dominated and went 4-0 gallo's point production was: 21, 27, 23, 31. he is good enough to take over games -- he just does it like 1x a week. last year against MELO at the garden he scored 18 in the 3rd, matched melo shot for shot, and the knicks won the game.

if this guy were consistent and the knicks were winning more, there wouldn't be deep trade rumors. the knicks are now at 500 and on the verge of falling to 7th in the playoff standings. gallo has another DUD tonight (4 of 15 from the field, 0 for 6 from 3 including a few WIDE OPEN, and 4 turnovers) and the knicks lose again.

gallo has the talent. for whatever reason he doesn't have the focus or mental capacity to be zeroed in every night. he should be scoring 20 a game every night. look at the guy's game log. its a good game and then 3 bad ones every week. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3428its his 3rd year in the league. if the nuggets are gonna trade melo for him and chandler (who also has been disappointing recently and injured for the 3rd time in 3 yrs), you've gotta make that move at this point.

knicks are at 500 and dropping in the standings. the 13-1 streak was almost 3 months ago.

GustavBahler wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:

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BigSm00th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

abs wrote:its interesting when people suggest gallo disappears from watching all the games when he does play inconsistent i thinks its because he is not getting enough touches and shots...look at how many less fga he has then stat felton chandler even when he has gotten hot this year we then stop going to him for long stretches right after.... i have always believed he needs the ball in his hands more keep him involved so he cant disappear and when he does have the ball in his hands good things usual happen

I agree. I wonder how much better Gallo would play with more of a pass first PG? You could also say that for the rest of the team.

part of being a go-to player is demanding the ball. in the games you are watching do you notice when amare demands the ball and takes his man? i've seen gallo do that very rarely. look at all the top scorers -- lebron, kobe, durant -- if they're not getting the ball they don't just stand passively in the corner. that's what gallo does. its as much on him as it is the coach or felton.

Demanding the ball? A PG shouldn't have to wait for anyone to demand anything, if he is open, if he has the hot hand, give him the ball. I've seen gallo put his arms up to signal he's free, other than that its Felton's job to be distribute the ball within the flow of the offense. I was seeing it during that streak earlier in the season but I don't see much of that now, those assist numbers don't tell the whole story. The only guy who should be demanding the ball is Stat, the rest of them Felton should find without them having to tell him anything.

no, the point is, when the knicks O is sputtering gallo has to say "gimme the ball i'm gonna get to the line or get a bucket." dirk does it, kobe does it, durant does it, paul pierce does it. its the sign of a go to offensive player. if gallo wants to be that guy, which i think he could, its on him to say "get me the goddamn ball and get outta the way." its not on felton. felton isn't steve nash and that's not how it works. you think MJ would wait for ron harper to find him? hell no. he said "throw me the ball and get outta the way." i know i sound like mark jackson but its true. gallo has the skills, there are games he gets to the line 10+ times and he's had big scoring nights. the fact that he doesn't score 20 a game is on gallo for not wanting it. he has the talent.

You could say that about the rest of the team as well. Not sure why you are singling Gallo out. All the guys you named have a post up game, Gallo doesn't right now. You keep throwing the ball to the same guy on the wing and they are going to shut him down unless he is someone like Melo.

The guys you named are superstars, leaders of their team. Like I said, if anyone should be doing that its Stat, not Gallo. Gallo isn't good enough to take over games by himself at this point, and he doesn't command enough respect to be treated like a superstar, not by Felton.

It sounds like you are giving Felton a pass for looking for his shot first which he and TD have been doing, taking the lion share of the shot attempts, that's not Gallo's fault.

i don't really understand you. i imagine you like gallo so much b/c you are enamored with his talent. yet you ignore some good aspects of his game to attempt to force your point home.

gallo HAS taken over games this year. during our win streak early in the year gallo hit some HUGE shots -- against LAC and against GS both road games i remember gallo hitting 2 to 3 HUGE 3s to lead us to the W. during our first west coast trip which we dominated and went 4-0 gallo's point production was: 21, 27, 23, 31. he is good enough to take over games -- he just does it like 1x a week. last year against MELO at the garden he scored 18 in the 3rd, matched melo shot for shot, and the knicks won the game.

if this guy were consistent and the knicks were winning more, there wouldn't be deep trade rumors. the knicks are now at 500 and on the verge of falling to 7th in the playoff standings. gallo has another DUD tonight (4 of 15 from the field, 0 for 6 from 3 including a few WIDE OPEN, and 4 turnovers) and the knicks lose again.

gallo has the talent. for whatever reason he doesn't have the focus or mental capacity to be zeroed in every night. he should be scoring 20 a game every night. look at the guy's game log. its a good game and then 3 bad ones every week. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3428its his 3rd year in the league. if the nuggets are gonna trade melo for him and chandler (who also has been disappointing recently and injured for the 3rd time in 3 yrs), you've gotta make that move at this point.

knicks are at 500 and dropping in the standings. the 13-1 streak was almost 3 months ago.

I don't call hitting a couple of timely 3s taking over a game. There is a difference between having a big game (like the ones you mentioned) within the flow of the offense and expecting Gallo to demand the ball and play like the superstars you mentioned, being the offense. I like his game but "enamored"? No, that's a bit much, he still has work to do. Gallo's bad games weren't because he wasn't demanding the ball. Maybe we just have different expectations.

Your original point was that he wasn't getting enough touches and that was on him more than Felton, I disagree. If Gallo is open, hitting his shots, and he isn't getting enough touches blame Felton or D'Antoni. If he isn't getting enough touches because he can't find the rim then all the demanding in the world isn't going to make a difference.

I hold Felton more responsible than Gallo for the losses. Felton runs the offense and the offense doesn't just run through Gallo. There is enough blame to go around but I usually will hold the PG responsible before a wing player.

haha ok call it whatever you want. i don't know how you could watch the early game @ LAC or @ GS and say that gallo didn't take over. he made HUGE shots down the stretch that kept us in the lead. that, in my mind, is taking over.

regardless of who's fault the sputtering offense is, this thread is about trading gallo and chandler for melo. i'd do it, for the reasons i've cited above -- specifically, gallo's inconsistency and almost all of his skills overlapping with melo's.

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GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Fields is a nice player and has the potential to be very good. You sell that to Denver as he is cheap, young and good. IMO, Gallo has more Bball IQ than Fields and IMO, a bigger upside. Gallo can be the 3rd wheel to Melo and Stat and still average 16 points a game on 8-10 shots. He will also up his assists.

Fields, Chandler, No 1, Curry and Az for $$ relief. This gives Denver potentially 3 good young players and cap room to sign a few good players. If they insisted on Felton for Billups, I would do it.

No to Mozgov unless they are giving us Nene back.

Gallo has more upside? really? i hope so because right now i see an inconsistent one dimensional role player that shoots 3s or drives to the basket. and if you were to highlight some of Gallo's strengths, and mind you he is good, i don't think BB IQ would be up there whereas it's a no-brainer for Fields.

listen Denver likes Gallo but he's interchangeable with Chandler in regards to this trade, but they really want Fields and there's a reason for that.

that's about the oddest phrase ever

It's odd, but I like anything that illogically degrades Gallo's value.

Bippity10 wrote:What's the biggest leap that Danilo has made this year.

Last year, if he wasn't shooting well, he disappeared.

This year his shooting is just as inconsistent and yet every night he is in double figures becasue he gets to the line 6-8 times a night.

His biggest flaw is his inconsistent shooting(not play, shooting). At 22, if that is the only reason you can think of to get rid of a player then it's a silly reason.

pretty much dead on... Gallo's got some flaws he needs to work on but so does every other player on this roster... if we're trading him to get Melo then it's a no brainer, but u don't trade him just to trade him... that's like getting rid of Spree for KVH.