ramtour420 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

TMS wrote:

Moonangie wrote:1. Wait until the summer (presuming Melo's texted wink/blessing)...
2. Trade AR and Mozgov/Turiaf, $3mil, 2014 1st rounder, GS 2nd rounder for Rubio rights and filler (Rubio's camp reiterated today that he won't play in Minny and prefers NY, Miami, Boston.)
3. Trade Chandler, Buke, Mason Jr., $3mil, GS 2nd rounder for Sammy D. and filler.
4. Take back no bad contracts.
5. Sign Melo as a FA
6. Re-sign Sammy D. in the summer.

Contend with...(8 guy rotation)

Felton/Rubio
Fields/Walker
Melo/Gallo
Amare/Gallo/?
Sammy D./Turiaf OR Moz (depending on which wasn't traded)

We will be a starting SG away from ongoing contention, maybe grab Ray Allen or Grant Hill for a final contract, or maybe Fields matures quickly into a multi-faceted SG/SF. We will retain Bird rights for a Gallo re-sign.

Thoughts? Think Sac or Minny would do it?

Chandler, expirings & cash for Sammy Dalembert???... unless the Kings are including their 1st round pick unprotected i see zero logic behind making a trade like that... Dalembert would be a nice substitute for Curry if no Melo trade is made, but no way is he worth giving up any of our top young players to acquire, especially when he'll be a FA this summer anyway... Curry & a 2nd round pick is the most i'd offer.

i wouldn't mind trying to get Rubio's rights in exchange for AR & cash, but i doubt Kahn would make that deal... i bet he's probably thinking more along the lines of Sebastian Telfair & a protected 1st rd pick.

The thought is that we can't resign Chandler in the summer if we are going to sign Melo, so we should move him to get value at a position of need. We could ask for a lottery protected first, but the idea is to get Sammy D. here to shore up our interior D, and losing Chandler has little real bearing on our fortunes since we are going to lose him anyway. We have to give value to get back value, and right now it seems Sammy D. is our best option at the 5. We sign him to a 3yr deal with a team option for year 3 (i.e., just in case Dwight indicates he wants to join the Knicks for his next deal).

i agree to get value u have to give value back, but Dalembert isn't real value... the Kings are going to lose Dalembert anyway this summer, they're not going to invest longterm dollars in re-signing him when they have Cousins, Thompson & Whiteside to groom for their future... i don't see why u give up any of our top assets to get a guy who won't significantly impact the fortunes of our season this year... Dalembert is solid he's nowhere near Allstar calibre & isn't going to be the missing piece to put us over the edge from being a wannabe to real contention... if you're going to trade Wilson, u need to get back an asset you can use going forward, whether that be in the form of a high pick, or in a package for a real impact player... u can't make the same mistake we did in the D Lee trade & give up Wilson for a role player & get nothing else out of the other pieces we got back... why do u think DW is looking to trade AR to get back a pick now? so he can glean some kind of value out of that trade & use him as a piece to get a player that will make a significant impact on the team... & on top of Wilson u wanna give up expirings & cash too when u can use those kinds of assets to add 1st round picks every year? sorry, no offense but that's horrible.

I dunno man, we need a center that rebounds and blocks. If that said center can drain the little 10 - 12 foot jumper, then all the better. Turiaf doesn't have a 10-12 foot jumper tho, and he is a very important piece for us. To get some1 to help Ronnie would be a solid investment. Maybe Dalembert is not the answer, but if he can run a little- then maybe there is a good chance that he would fit well with us.

i think he could fit well too but he's not worth giving up Wilson C & cash considerations for... Curry & a 2nd round pick for me... maybe a little bit of cash to offset the $1M difference in their salaries... there's really no reason to give up more than that for him IMO

DurzoBlint wrote:Gallo has to learn to move better without the Ball - than and keep his intensity level up. Chandler imo is/was getting more touches because, unlike Gallo he seems to have more perpetual motion out there (Landy is by far the best at this).

Gallo needs to watch tape of Reggie Miller and Rip Hamilton, some of the best at moving without the ball.

Too often I have seen him, after NOT getting a pass he wanted, literally stop and stand in place as if disappointed. He can't let things like that effect his aggressiveness.

the pistons and pacers offense was based a lot around screens and pick and pops specifically miller and RIP... gallo can run around all day, but all that would do is disrupt our Pick and roll offense... It is not the same situation...

tkf wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:Gallo has to learn to move better without the Ball - than and keep his intensity level up. Chandler imo is/was getting more touches because, unlike Gallo he seems to have more perpetual motion out there (Landy is by far the best at this).

Gallo needs to watch tape of Reggie Miller and Rip Hamilton, some of the best at moving without the ball.

Too often I have seen him, after NOT getting a pass he wanted, literally stop and stand in place as if disappointed. He can't let things like that effect his aggressiveness.

the pistons and pacers offense was based a lot around screens and pick and pops specifically miller and RIP... gallo can run around all day, but all that would do is disrupt our Pick and roll offense... It is not the same situation...

Yeah they did run a lot of screens but, he/they were often successful at getting open because of the perpetual motion. Also, it has the added benefit of forcing your defender to continuously work and forces opposing team mates to HAVE to be aware of you.

Watch some older Detroit games if you ever have the chance. Rip ran off screens but, often it was just his constant motion that got him open shots. Same with Reggie.