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12/20/2010  9:06 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

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12/20/2010  9:14 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

not sure your watcing, but J J is on the floor now bricking it

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12/20/2010  9:31 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

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12/20/2010  10:13 PM
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crzymdups wrote:Mozgov's deal isn't guaranteed for next season - it's a team option. If they need to cut ties this summer, they can.

ok then thats that take his name out of the equation, lets not gift a 7'0 big to the magic, they dont grow on trees.

curious that magic make such a big move in the east and a team like knicks who got pieces to make a move as well, dont.

magic were willing to cripple their cap with arenas' four years $80M.

the wizards would have given us arenas for curry and azubuike... but donnie is being patient with the cap.

if isiah were here arenas would have been here in august and we'd be locked into this team for four years with no chance to improve but to take longer contracts.

i applaud the magic. dolan should be willing to offer up his soul for a chance at a chip. but i digress. i really hope to at least see a try for mayo and sebastian before deadline, those are very doable.

you think the Magic are winning a championship after this trade?

this is a desperation trade. arenas hasn't played anything resembling a full season since 06-07.

this is an isiah trade up and down. this is not a championship move at all.

dolan funded plenty of misguided trades like this - steve francis, marbury, jalen rose, zach randolph.

the magic have dwight howard, but to say they've surrounded him with championship pieces is a joke. they aren't getting by miami or boston.

yea, I agree, this is a Isiah era type trade for the knicks..

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12/20/2010  10:35 PM
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.


I could be wrong, but I think Donnie and Mike are really thinking longterm with Rautins. When he finally gets in there I think he'll get a long look and not just some spot situation. I think Mike felt really comfortable when he gave Williams a shot and I think that's how he wants to handle it with Rautins and even AR.

These young guys don't always benefit from throwing them out there. I think they liked the raw talent of guys we have on the bench, but this season they really have tried to win as many games as they could and that really wasn't a good spot to stick guys like AR and Rautins in that are still trying to figure things out. The dilemma for the Knicks is that they really will have to tough it out for now until either these guys are showing themselves to be ready to contribute or we make a deal.

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12/20/2010  10:40 PM
Chris Duhon for Turiaf?

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12/20/2010  10:42 PM
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12/20/2010  10:42 PM
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.
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12/20/2010  10:47 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.

play rautins. it is not like it will be a catastrophic fail to give him 3 to 6 minutes a game.

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12/20/2010  11:00 PM
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

Knicks1248....When I posted that he wasn't in the game yet. Spoke to soon.

TMS...I would love to see our bench players get some burn on the court before we make any trades, but I just dont see MDA expanding that rotation with the current roster.

I believe he's going to keep this 7-8 man rotation to try and force Walsh to make a trade.

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12/20/2010  11:00 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.

i could be wrong, but I think Rautins played SG for a lot of his time at Syracuse - remember that Flynn was drafted a year before Rautins.

The kids is a good distance shooter, albeit he did not really show that skill during SL. He is a competitor and a winner, at least on the collegiate level. He started to play PG late in life, played PG for the Canadian national team. He is big at 6'4" and a scrappy but not lock down defender.

I think there is a bit of a waiting period with this kid; patience is needed. He is low cost and end of bench.

Even a guy like Nash, who was something like #15 pick was total crap his rookie year. We are marinating a second round pick.

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12/20/2010  11:11 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.

i could be wrong, but I think Rautins played SG for a lot of his time at Syracuse - remember that Flynn was drafted a year before Rautins.

The kids is a good distance shooter, albeit he did not really show that skill during SL. He is a competitor and a winner, at least on the collegiate level. He started to play PG late in life, played PG for the Canadian national team. He is big at 6'4" and a scrappy but not lock down defender.

I think there is a bit of a waiting period with this kid; patience is needed. He is low cost and end of bench.

Even a guy like Nash, who was something like #15 pick was total crap his rookie year. We are marinating a second round pick.

rumor has it (please spread this rumor) donnie is tired of waiting and he wants to see rautins and the rest of the bench play.

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12/20/2010  11:14 PM
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.

i could be wrong, but I think Rautins played SG for a lot of his time at Syracuse - remember that Flynn was drafted a year before Rautins.

The kids is a good distance shooter, albeit he did not really show that skill during SL. He is a competitor and a winner, at least on the collegiate level. He started to play PG late in life, played PG for the Canadian national team. He is big at 6'4" and a scrappy but not lock down defender.

I think there is a bit of a waiting period with this kid; patience is needed. He is low cost and end of bench.

Even a guy like Nash, who was something like #15 pick was total crap his rookie year. We are marinating a second round pick.

rumor has it (please spread this rumor) donnie is tired of waiting and he wants to see rautins and the rest of the bench play.

no worries:

But Walsh quickly ruined that by continuing his thought, supporting Mike D'Antoni's decision to stick to a limited rotation during the last four weeks.

"We've played a short rotation and understandably so, because we're trying to win games," Walsh said. "We started off 3-8 and went to a short rotation and it worked."

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12/20/2010  11:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/20/2010  11:41 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.

i could be wrong, but I think Rautins played SG for a lot of his time at Syracuse - remember that Flynn was drafted a year before Rautins.

The kids is a good distance shooter, albeit he did not really show that skill during SL. He is a competitor and a winner, at least on the collegiate level. He started to play PG late in life, played PG for the Canadian national team. He is big at 6'4" and a scrappy but not lock down defender.

I think there is a bit of a waiting period with this kid; patience is needed. He is low cost and end of bench.

Even a guy like Nash, who was something like #15 pick was total crap his rookie year. We are marinating a second round pick.

this kid is getting no minutes on a team thirsty for a lagit back up, its not like were deep at the position. Appearntly what he did in college, he's not doing it in the NBA. The little that i have seen him, he seemed a bit trigger happy, and had a half ass approach to the "pass first concept", left guys in transition under the basket wide open while he jack up a three that bricked.

unfortunately, when your minutes of play are slim to none, you tend to wanna make shots as oppose to making plays, you do everything in a hurry cause you don't have much time to show you belong. I notice this about AR and Mosgov a lot, they just seem to rush everything, bobbling the ball , miss timing there jumps, then commit silly fouls in fustration.

AR gets the ball from 19 ft and just cause he's open he thinks he should take that shot, like thats high % for him..Mosgov takes the shot before he secures the ball, which end up out of his hands and out of bounds.

Whats a coach to do when he's trying to win a game and these youmg players keep doing stupid sht

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12/20/2010  11:45 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.

i would at least like to see Rautins be given a shot before we make that determination... at least w/Mozgov he's been given a stretch of games to show something & he looked bad... i say give Rautins a run of 10-15 games of action & see if he can fill that shooter's role off the bench... i don't think he'd be much worse than Eddie House was last year & MDA gave that guy plenty of run, albeit our team sucked last year but you get the point... if he has no problem playing veterans that add nothing to our team & have no future here longterm, why not at least give a young guy a run to see if he might? if MDA doesn't think Rautins is ready to play yet, then fine, i can understand him not wanting to play rookies at the expense of winning games when your team is contending for playoffs... that's completely understandable... but i also hate to see assets go to waste before they're given a full evaluation in real NBA action... i don't think it's much of a stretch to think this kid's at least better than some of the scrubs he's given playing time to in the past like Anthony Roberson & Sergio Rodriguez.

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12/21/2010  12:46 AM
Swishfm3 wrote:
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

Knicks1248....When I posted that he wasn't in the game yet. Spoke to soon.

TMS...I would love to see our bench players get some burn on the court before we make any trades, but I just dont see MDA expanding that rotation with the current roster.

I believe he's going to keep this 7-8 man rotation to try and force Walsh to make a trade.

i dunno how much trying to force a trade has to do w/MDA's rotations as much as the fact he doesn't trust anyone else on the bench to produce right now... it's funny because i bet if Eddie House were still on this roster I could easily see him getting minutes, but guys like AR & Rautins can't... somehow i think AR's only real chance to see regular minutes is if someone like Gallo or Wilson gets injured.

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12/21/2010  12:48 AM
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.

i could be wrong, but I think Rautins played SG for a lot of his time at Syracuse - remember that Flynn was drafted a year before Rautins.

The kids is a good distance shooter, albeit he did not really show that skill during SL. He is a competitor and a winner, at least on the collegiate level. He started to play PG late in life, played PG for the Canadian national team. He is big at 6'4" and a scrappy but not lock down defender.

I think there is a bit of a waiting period with this kid; patience is needed. He is low cost and end of bench.

Even a guy like Nash, who was something like #15 pick was total crap his rookie year. We are marinating a second round pick.

rumor has it (please spread this rumor) donnie is tired of waiting and he wants to see rautins and the rest of the bench play.

any word whether Donnie will start travelling with the team in the near future?

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12/21/2010  1:04 AM
TMS wrote:
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TMS wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Im watching the magic and atlanta game now, SVG hasn't even looked duhons direction..


The problem with orlando is not there perimeter players, It's DH not having a perimeter game, he just hangs down low, his teammates can't penetrate, so there force to shoot jump shots all night

J.J. Redick hasn't played either. Thats one kid I wouldnt mind seeing in a Knick uni

why not see if Rautins can fill that role for you? it's not like Reddick does anything else but shoot the ball anyway... we drafted Rautins cuz he was supposed to be able to shoot the lights out... he's looked bad in very limited run but shooters need to get into a rhythm... we'll never know what we have in our bench guys unless they're given a chance to play.

I am fine with being patient with Rautins but I really don't think his skills translate to the NBA level. I think the Knicks were looking for mature, four year guys in the draft and took Rautins because he is solid and can shoot. I don't know how long the Knicks should wait for their 24 year old rookies to develop.

i could be wrong, but I think Rautins played SG for a lot of his time at Syracuse - remember that Flynn was drafted a year before Rautins.

The kids is a good distance shooter, albeit he did not really show that skill during SL. He is a competitor and a winner, at least on the collegiate level. He started to play PG late in life, played PG for the Canadian national team. He is big at 6'4" and a scrappy but not lock down defender.

I think there is a bit of a waiting period with this kid; patience is needed. He is low cost and end of bench.

Even a guy like Nash, who was something like #15 pick was total crap his rookie year. We are marinating a second round pick.

rumor has it (please spread this rumor) donnie is tired of waiting and he wants to see rautins and the rest of the bench play.

any word whether Donnie will start travelling with the team in the near future?

donnie and his wife already at airport getting "pre-screened," tsa sextape soon.


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12/21/2010  1:10 AM
..here it is! you in trouble now mike.. donnie's back!

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12/21/2010  1:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2010  1:19 AM
cheers wrote:..here it is! you in trouble now mike.. donnie's back!

WTF??? they stripped a handicapped woman to her underwear & left her there to be stared at by all the other passengers at the security checkpoint? & with little kids around no less? is that a joke? that lady had a crazy look on her face too, she musta been crazy. maybe she took off her own clothes... that's some strange sheit right there!

btw, i'd probably bang her, but that's neither here nor there.

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