[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Anthony Randolph
Author Thread
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
10/15/2010  6:30 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
crzymdups wrote:AR needs to stop trying to be a superstar and just focus on being a solid rotation player. He's trying to get to point A without first hitting points D, C and B. Patience is required all around. This is already starting to remind me of Marcus Camby's first season with the Knicks. Patience. He's going to be good and I hope it happens here.

Randolph thinks he is better than he actually is. This reminds me of when Josh Smith though he was a shooter. Some guys should just stick to what they do well and Randolph currently is one of those guys.

I dont mind patience but Amare's knees cant wait for Randolph to develop.

How do you know how long it's gonna take for AR to figure out that he already has the capacity to help this team with hustle and energy plays? AR can help us right now simply by doing all the little things and being a hustle play guy. I think you're looking for too much at this point. AR is indeed a bit enamored with his offensive game, but if he simply scaled back on that and focused on the defensive end and crashing the offensive boards, setting picks and rolling to the basket... He'd be very productive for us.

AUTOADVERT
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
10/15/2010  6:43 PM
nixluva wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
crzymdups wrote:AR needs to stop trying to be a superstar and just focus on being a solid rotation player. He's trying to get to point A without first hitting points D, C and B. Patience is required all around. This is already starting to remind me of Marcus Camby's first season with the Knicks. Patience. He's going to be good and I hope it happens here.

Randolph thinks he is better than he actually is. This reminds me of when Josh Smith though he was a shooter. Some guys should just stick to what they do well and Randolph currently is one of those guys.

I dont mind patience but Amare's knees cant wait for Randolph to develop.

How do you know how long it's gonna take for AR to figure out that he already has the capacity to help this team with hustle and energy plays? AR can help us right now simply by doing all the little things and being a hustle play guy. I think you're looking for too much at this point. AR is indeed a bit enamored with his offensive game, but if he simply scaled back on that and focused on the defensive end and crashing the offensive boards, setting picks and rolling to the basket... He'd be very productive for us.

I dont know when AR will blow up or if he will at all.

Randolph could blow up like Jermaine O'neal did in Indiana. My problem is we have Amare playing ahead of Randolph at PF. No way is Randolph going to be able to beat out Amare for the PF position anytime soon.

I personally prefer to just play Randolph and Gallo max minutes so we can gauge what we have. D'Antoni isnt going to do that though.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
Marv
Posts: 35540
Alba Posts: 69
Joined: 9/2/2002
Member: #315
10/15/2010  6:46 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
nixluva wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
crzymdups wrote:AR needs to stop trying to be a superstar and just focus on being a solid rotation player. He's trying to get to point A without first hitting points D, C and B. Patience is required all around. This is already starting to remind me of Marcus Camby's first season with the Knicks. Patience. He's going to be good and I hope it happens here.

Randolph thinks he is better than he actually is. This reminds me of when Josh Smith though he was a shooter. Some guys should just stick to what they do well and Randolph currently is one of those guys.

I dont mind patience but Amare's knees cant wait for Randolph to develop.

How do you know how long it's gonna take for AR to figure out that he already has the capacity to help this team with hustle and energy plays? AR can help us right now simply by doing all the little things and being a hustle play guy. I think you're looking for too much at this point. AR is indeed a bit enamored with his offensive game, but if he simply scaled back on that and focused on the defensive end and crashing the offensive boards, setting picks and rolling to the basket... He'd be very productive for us.

I dont know when AR will blow up or if he will at all.

Randolph could blow up like Jermaine O'neal did in Indiana. My problem is we have Amare playing ahead of Randolph at PF. No way is Randolph going to be able to beat out Amare for the PF position anytime soon.

I personally prefer to just play Randolph and Gallo max minutes so we can gauge what we have. D'Antoni isnt going to do that though.

i thought we've all been saying that ar can get all the minutes he needs spread out among the 3, 4 and 5.

nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
10/15/2010  6:47 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
nixluva wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
crzymdups wrote:AR needs to stop trying to be a superstar and just focus on being a solid rotation player. He's trying to get to point A without first hitting points D, C and B. Patience is required all around. This is already starting to remind me of Marcus Camby's first season with the Knicks. Patience. He's going to be good and I hope it happens here.

Randolph thinks he is better than he actually is. This reminds me of when Josh Smith though he was a shooter. Some guys should just stick to what they do well and Randolph currently is one of those guys.

I dont mind patience but Amare's knees cant wait for Randolph to develop.

How do you know how long it's gonna take for AR to figure out that he already has the capacity to help this team with hustle and energy plays? AR can help us right now simply by doing all the little things and being a hustle play guy. I think you're looking for too much at this point. AR is indeed a bit enamored with his offensive game, but if he simply scaled back on that and focused on the defensive end and crashing the offensive boards, setting picks and rolling to the basket... He'd be very productive for us.

I dont know when AR will blow up or if he will at all.

Randolph could blow up like Jermaine O'neal did in Indiana. My problem is we have Amare playing ahead of Randolph at PF. No way is Randolph going to be able to beat out Amare for the PF position anytime soon.

I personally prefer to just play Randolph and Gallo max minutes so we can gauge what we have. D'Antoni isnt going to do that though.

I don't understand what you mean. Max minutes in pre season or Regular Season? In Pre Season I can see long looks, but during the regular season we'll be about winning games. In any event Gallo is gonna pay HUGE minutes this year. I don't know why you would think otherwise. AR doesn't have to beat out Amar'e. The kid can play several positions. He just needs to play hard and stop worrying about his offense so much. That's all he's gotta do. You really need him playing like a 6-11 Balkman or Junkyard Dog. He can get so much done by being active without the ball. That's what I expect to happen this year.

AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
10/15/2010  6:59 PM
Marv wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
nixluva wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
crzymdups wrote:AR needs to stop trying to be a superstar and just focus on being a solid rotation player. He's trying to get to point A without first hitting points D, C and B. Patience is required all around. This is already starting to remind me of Marcus Camby's first season with the Knicks. Patience. He's going to be good and I hope it happens here.

Randolph thinks he is better than he actually is. This reminds me of when Josh Smith though he was a shooter. Some guys should just stick to what they do well and Randolph currently is one of those guys.

I dont mind patience but Amare's knees cant wait for Randolph to develop.

How do you know how long it's gonna take for AR to figure out that he already has the capacity to help this team with hustle and energy plays? AR can help us right now simply by doing all the little things and being a hustle play guy. I think you're looking for too much at this point. AR is indeed a bit enamored with his offensive game, but if he simply scaled back on that and focused on the defensive end and crashing the offensive boards, setting picks and rolling to the basket... He'd be very productive for us.

I dont know when AR will blow up or if he will at all.

Randolph could blow up like Jermaine O'neal did in Indiana. My problem is we have Amare playing ahead of Randolph at PF. No way is Randolph going to be able to beat out Amare for the PF position anytime soon.

I personally prefer to just play Randolph and Gallo max minutes so we can gauge what we have. D'Antoni isnt going to do that though.

i thought we've all been saying that ar can get all the minutes he needs spread out among the 3, 4 and 5.

My problem is playing him at multiple positions when Randolph is a PF.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
Sangfroid
Posts: 24681
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/7/2009
Member: #2784

10/15/2010  7:01 PM
iSergio wrote:Anthony Randolph has the talent to be a Tayshaun Prince/Andrei Kirilenko on a winning team but he needs to work hard, play his role and stop trying to be Kevin Garnett because he's not that good.

Not that good yet. The ability to make the extra pass and to shoot better is something that can be learned.

"We are playing a game. We are playing at not playing a game..."
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
10/15/2010  7:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/15/2010  7:07 PM
nixluva wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
nixluva wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
crzymdups wrote:AR needs to stop trying to be a superstar and just focus on being a solid rotation player. He's trying to get to point A without first hitting points D, C and B. Patience is required all around. This is already starting to remind me of Marcus Camby's first season with the Knicks. Patience. He's going to be good and I hope it happens here.

Randolph thinks he is better than he actually is. This reminds me of when Josh Smith though he was a shooter. Some guys should just stick to what they do well and Randolph currently is one of those guys.

I dont mind patience but Amare's knees cant wait for Randolph to develop.

How do you know how long it's gonna take for AR to figure out that he already has the capacity to help this team with hustle and energy plays? AR can help us right now simply by doing all the little things and being a hustle play guy. I think you're looking for too much at this point. AR is indeed a bit enamored with his offensive game, but if he simply scaled back on that and focused on the defensive end and crashing the offensive boards, setting picks and rolling to the basket... He'd be very productive for us.

I dont know when AR will blow up or if he will at all.

Randolph could blow up like Jermaine O'neal did in Indiana. My problem is we have Amare playing ahead of Randolph at PF. No way is Randolph going to be able to beat out Amare for the PF position anytime soon.

I personally prefer to just play Randolph and Gallo max minutes so we can gauge what we have. D'Antoni isnt going to do that though.

I don't understand what you mean. Max minutes in pre season or Regular Season? In Pre Season I can see long looks, but during the regular season we'll be about winning games. In any event Gallo is gonna pay HUGE minutes this year. I don't know why you would think otherwise. AR doesn't have to beat out Amar'e. The kid can play several positions. He just needs to play hard and stop worrying about his offense so much. That's all he's gotta do. You really need him playing like a 6-11 Balkman or Junkyard Dog. He can get so much done by being active without the ball. That's what I expect to happen this year.

Just because he has some handle and speed doesnt make him a SF. Just because he is 7 ft tall doesnt make him a center.

This play guys at every position imaginable doesn't make sense to me. Chandler has been jumping back forth between SG and PF. I dont see how that helped his development when he is required to do different thing at the different positions.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
10/15/2010  10:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/15/2010  10:17 PM
"Just because he has some handle and speed doesnt make him a SF."

"You Can Put Your Boots in the Oven, But that Don't Make'em Biscuits"

4

Randolph is not a lead guard. Knicks already have 2.5 competent lead guards. You don't put him in a position to fail. Next.

Randolph is not a shooting guard. You need a sniper with three point range. Next.

Randolph is too light in the ass to play the four. Next.

Randolph playing center is intriguing, but only if he gains about 20 pounds and devotes himself to rebounding and astounding.

He plays Anthony Mason skill forward, simply by process of elimination.

once a knick always a knick
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
10/16/2010  12:02 AM
misterearl wrote:"Just because he has some handle and speed doesnt make him a SF."

"You Can Put Your Boots in the Oven, But that Don't Make'em Biscuits"

4

Randolph is not a lead guard. Knicks already have 2.5 competent lead guards. You don't put him in a position to fail. Next.

Randolph is not a shooting guard. You need a sniper with three point range. Next.

Randolph is too light in the ass to play the four. Next.

Randolph playing center is intriguing, but only if he gains about 20 pounds and devotes himself to rebounding and astounding.

He plays Anthony Mason skill forward, simply by process of elimination.


Perpective is great. The reality is that he appears to be one step away from D'Antoni's doghouse. If he gets there past practice indicates that he won't get minutes for quite awhile or will be traded. He fits the bill for this years bad guy, talented, young and needing guidance.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
loweyecue
Posts: 27468
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 11/20/2005
Member: #1037

10/16/2010  12:07 PM
Moonangie wrote:Phil Jackson is a master motivator. He doesn't need to be "rah rah" or twirl pom poms to get his message across. Sometimes having expectations can be a form of motivating. I think AllanFan and others maybe have a narrower view of "motivation" than I was using. It can come in many forms and techniques.

Getting your message across is called communication it's not the same thing as motivation. Phil Jackson wouldn't touch a team that didn't already have proven winners and superstars on it.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
knickstorrents
Posts: 21121
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/23/2010
Member: #3050
Hong Kong
10/17/2010  5:21 AM
With Anthony Randolph I do think you need to be positive and supportive. His head isn't there but his heart is in the right place. He needs to learn that if an open look isn't there he should pass the ball, OR if he's on the low block post his man up immediately.
Rose is not the answer.
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
10/18/2010  8:23 PM
So i was just reading that AR went to 4 different HS, never made the playoffs, and played one year in college for a losing program and a coach who got fired midway through his one season. Then gets drated by GS who obviously knows about losing.

Thats why AR plays losing basketball and his IQ is low as hell.

ES
GodSaveTheKnicks
Posts: 23952
Alba Posts: 21
Joined: 11/21/2006
Member: #1207
USA
10/19/2010  12:56 AM
knicks1248 wrote:So i was just reading that AR went to 4 different HS, never made the playoffs, and played one year in college for a losing program and a coach who got fired midway through his one season. Then gets drated by GS who obviously knows about losing.

Thats why AR plays losing basketball and his IQ is low as hell.

sounds like he could develop at an Odom like pace.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
Nalod
Posts: 71206
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
10/19/2010  8:51 AM
This kid needs to age 25 for him to grow into that body and get his man strength NBA legs. He so reminds me of Camby whose body broke down until he "filled" out to his size.

We spoke so glowing in the off season about his potential and watched that highlight reel over and over thinking KG is coming and he cannot be traded but the reality is he is a bone head player and needs time. He is not starter material or a finisher yet but he gets 20 min a game.

He has to let the game come to him.

Amare leadership is not wasted if he keeps the kid focused and Amare takes him under his wing to help him.

Our being a championship caliber team (barring trades) is not about a 27 year old Amare but one that is older and a support player in 3 years. Unless we get Melo and CP3 and still have a team around them its about AR and Gallo growing.

What have we learned? AR is not the highlight film and Gallo is not Melo yet.

Rookie
Posts: 27049
Alba Posts: 28
Joined: 10/15/2008
Member: #2274

10/19/2010  11:13 AM
i'd like to see him at 250lbs....maybe curry can be his mentor/coach
Nalod
Posts: 71206
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
10/19/2010  12:25 PM

I like when we think to bring back retired knicks to superimpose their greatness as a coach and that player get the benefit of such wisdom.

LIke when we need "Oak" to toughen up players.

How about we bring back Bill Bradley and raise AR's IQ?

knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
10/19/2010  12:41 PM
Its not so much his strength, his timing is terrible when it comes to rebounding. Dude would grab a ton of rbs if he new when to jump, also his moves and dribble look likes pick up game material..nice moves but can finish..
ES
Anthony Randolph

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy