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GustavBahler
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8/17/2010  5:48 PM
Vmart wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:See Denver has strength right now--they have the time to make teams ante up. What could happen is you could deplete your self so badly--that even with Anthony and Stoudemire--you could be very weak in terms of cap and picks to put a team together. Remember Denver hasnt won sht with a LOADED team.

That's my concern as well. Hope Melo stays in Denver but it doesn't look like thats going to happen unless Melo makes it clear that he
would only be a one year rental to whatever team he goes to. Denver would have to find a very friendly destination for him to stay beyond a year.

There is only four, friendly destination as of now for Melo. NY Knicks, NJ Nets, LA Lakers, LA Clippers remember he is moving from Denver for his wife's career.

Forgot about the wifey. I doubt the Lakers have the space to sign him, Clips are a joke, so I'm guessing its between
NY and NJ. I would hope if he gets traded anywhere its to the Clips. I doubt he would want to be there for more than a season.

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8/17/2010  5:51 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Vmart wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:See Denver has strength right now--they have the time to make teams ante up. What could happen is you could deplete your self so badly--that even with Anthony and Stoudemire--you could be very weak in terms of cap and picks to put a team together. Remember Denver hasnt won sht with a LOADED team.

That's my concern as well. Hope Melo stays in Denver but it doesn't look like thats going to happen unless Melo makes it clear that he
would only be a one year rental to whatever team he goes to. Denver would have to find a very friendly destination for him to stay beyond a year.

There is only four, friendly destination as of now for Melo. NY Knicks, NJ Nets, LA Lakers, LA Clippers remember he is moving from Denver for his wife's career.

Forgot about the wifey. I doubt the Lakers have the space to sign him, Clips are a joke, so I'm guessing its between
NY and NJ. I would hope if he gets traded anywhere its to the Clips. I doubt he would want to be there for more than a season.

Forgot Orlando. Might take his talents to Florida Just like LBJ.

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8/17/2010  5:58 PM
Vmart wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Vmart wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:See Denver has strength right now--they have the time to make teams ante up. What could happen is you could deplete your self so badly--that even with Anthony and Stoudemire--you could be very weak in terms of cap and picks to put a team together. Remember Denver hasnt won sht with a LOADED team.

That's my concern as well. Hope Melo stays in Denver but it doesn't look like thats going to happen unless Melo makes it clear that he
would only be a one year rental to whatever team he goes to. Denver would have to find a very friendly destination for him to stay beyond a year.

There is only four, friendly destination as of now for Melo. NY Knicks, NJ Nets, LA Lakers, LA Clippers remember he is moving from Denver for his wife's career.

Forgot about the wifey. I doubt the Lakers have the space to sign him, Clips are a joke, so I'm guessing its between
NY and NJ. I would hope if he gets traded anywhere its to the Clips. I doubt he would want to be there for more than a season.

Forgot Orlando. Might take his talents to Florida Just like LBJ.

If he lets his contract expire I'm betting he would rather be in NY. Better for him and his wife.

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8/17/2010  6:14 PM
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kingofelpaso wrote:I for one would hate to see the Knicks trade away Gallo, even if that does end up netting Carmelo.

For once I would like to see the Knicks have some home grown talent and stick with the players who have originated on the team. It's been too long that the Knicks have had a player who has grown up in the NYK system and the team has made it clear that they intend on keeping that player. David Lee is gone, at least lets keep Gallo around rather than continually send away the players we have drafted.

I don't care if you like Melo or not. It would be a complete disservice to the Knicks and their fanbase to not pull that trigger. Gallo is not even in Melos league, and I'm a huge Gallo fan!

Come on guys, use your heads a little bit. I don't care if he's home grown talent. If you can trade Lee for Anthony Randolph, then you can trade Gallo for Melo. No ifs or buts. The guy is a superstar. Gallo isn't.

Totally agree. You pull the trigger on this deal. For those who are saying wait till next year, I doubt Denver is living by that slogan. While we are being patient, he will by shipped off to Orlando or some other team. If he's there to be had, you jump at the chance even if it means moving Gallo.

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8/17/2010  6:16 PM
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iSergio wrote:Jon Rothstein on 1050 just nailed it right now - there is perspective and reality with Danilo Gallinari. Perspective - some think he's 3/4 of the way to Dirk Nowitzki. Reality - he's played only 1 year and averaged 15/5 on a 29 win team.

Michael Kay also says he's heard from members within the Knicks organization that they are convinced Carmelo Anthony will be a Knick.

I think he may be also... next year when we make him out summer of 2011. Meet your new SG

Melo is 6'8 230-240. He's not chasing around 2 guards in the D end. Melo is a natural a sf as they come. Gallo and Chandler both play same position something would have to give either way.

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8/17/2010  6:31 PM
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Totally agree. You pull the trigger on this deal. For those who are saying wait till next year, I doubt Denver is living by that slogan. While we are being patient, he will by shipped off to Orlando or some other team. If he's there to be had, you jump at the chance even if it means moving Gallo.

What kind of package could Orlando offer Denver that would leave them as a legit contender and give Denver fair value?

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8/17/2010  6:32 PM
DENVER (AP)—Just how much longer will Carmelo Anthony(notes) play for the Denver Nuggets?

He can opt out of his contract after the upcoming season and become the headliner of the 2011 free agent class or he could play out the final two years of his contract and put off the wine-and-dine tour for a year.

He could sign a three-year, $65 million extension that’s been on the table all summer and would keep him in Denver through 2015.

Or maybe he’s already played his last game for the Nuggets, who don’t want to be spurned like the Cleveland Cavaliers were when LeBron James(notes) went on national TV to divorce them for a fresh start in Miami.

The All-Star forward who won a national title as a freshman at Syracuse and a gold medal at the Beijing Olympics—but has been able to guide Denver out of the first round of the playoffs just once in his seven NBA seasons—could be dealt before the season starts if team owner Stan Kroenke decides to jump-start a rebuilding program.

With a sign-and-trade deal, ‘Melo would get the money he may not be able to earn with a new collective bargaining agreement while the Nuggets land players to help them get on with life after ‘Melo.

Kroenke might choose to deal the face of his franchise at the February trade deadline, too.

The secluded owner likes to operate out of the public limelight, so his intentions aren’t clear.

Neither are Anthony’s.

Some observers, however, see plenty of signs pointing toward his exit:

— He didn’t jump at the chance to sign his extension.

— He’s put his 25,000-square-foot mansion in suburban Denver up for sale.

— At Anthony’s New York wedding to television personality LaLa Vazquez this summer, New Orleans point guard Chris Paul(notes) reportedly toasted the newlyweds by predicting a future Knicks dream team made up of himself, Anthony and Amare Stoudemire to counter the one in South Beach featuring James, Dwyane Wade(notes) and Chris Bosh(notes).

Anthony, who grew up on the East Coast, dismisses the Big Apple speculation as “rumors.”

“I’ve been hearing that for five years. So, rumors,” he said last weekend at his annual basketball camp. “I’m a Denver Nugget. I’m here. I’m with the Nuggets. I don’t become a free agent until next year, if I decide not to take that extension.”

Like any competitor, Anthony wants to win a ring, and the Nuggets have slipped back into the pack a year after reaching the Western Conference Finals, where they had the eventual champion Los Angeles Lakers on the ropes.

When coach George Karl had to take a sabbatical in March to fight throat cancer, the Nuggets floundered under assistant Adrian Dantley and were bounced in the first round of the playoffs by Utah.

They parted ways this month with Mark Warkentien, the NBA’s Executive of the Year in 2009 after engineering the Allen Iverson(notes)-Chauncey Billups trade, and Rex Chapman, vice president of player personnel, and they have yet to replace them.

Karl hopes to return to the sideline in September, his fitness and stamina permitting, and he’ll find a team struggling to regain its own health.

The Nuggets don’t know when Kenyon Martin(notes) and Chris “Birdman” Andersen will be recovered from offseason knee surgeries, so their desire for a big man took center stage this summer.

They were unable, however, to move back into the draft this summer to grab a big man, then struck out in their dogged pursuits of free agents Jermaine O’Neal(notes), who went to Boston, and Udonis Haslem(notes), who stayed in Miami.

So, they decided to change the way they play.

They signed Al Harrington(notes), a power forward who likes to run and shoot and will start at power forward with Nene, who is coming off a leg injury in the playoffs, moving to center.

That means the Nuggets will have to play a run-and-gun style like Mike D’Antoni’s old Phoenix Suns teams when the season starts.

In which case, they’d love to have Anthony’s 28 points a game.

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8/17/2010  6:33 PM
This smells bad this smells like Gallo AR and Chandler for Melo

if the knicks do anything like this they get what they deserve


they will be capped out with a thin roster and no picks

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8/17/2010  6:34 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Totally agree. You pull the trigger on this deal. For those who are saying wait till next year, I doubt Denver is living by that slogan. While we are being patient, he will by shipped off to Orlando or some other team. If he's there to be had, you jump at the chance even if it means moving Gallo.

What kind of package could Orlando offer Denver that would leave them as a legit contender and give Denver fair value?

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They could start with Vince Carter's contract, which has a team option in 2012.

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8/17/2010  6:37 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Totally agree. You pull the trigger on this deal. For those who are saying wait till next year, I doubt Denver is living by that slogan. While we are being patient, he will by shipped off to Orlando or some other team. If he's there to be had, you jump at the chance even if it means moving Gallo.

What kind of package could Orlando offer Denver that would leave them as a legit contender and give Denver fair value?

,

They could start with Vince Carter's contract, which has a team option in 2012.

But does it really give them fair value as a player? Knicks can offer cap relief with Curry's contract as well.

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8/17/2010  6:45 PM
BRIGGS wrote:This smells bad this smells like Gallo AR and Chandler for Melo

if the knicks do anything like this they get what they deserve


they will be capped out with a thin roster and no picks

Nah it won't be all 3. 2/3 at most and most likely imho.

And if we are winning 55 games every year and a title contender with Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony, who cares about picks and the 10th-12th man?

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8/17/2010  6:45 PM
BRIGGS wrote:This smells bad this smells like Gallo AR and Chandler for Melo

if the knicks do anything like this they get what they deserve


they will be capped out with a thin roster and no picks

what makes you think they would make a offer like that.

What we do know for sure, curry is inculed in any deal, now if we have to throw in more then gallo, then I suggest they throw in JR .

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8/17/2010  6:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/17/2010  6:46 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Totally agree. You pull the trigger on this deal. For those who are saying wait till next year, I doubt Denver is living by that slogan. While we are being patient, he will by shipped off to Orlando or some other team. If he's there to be had, you jump at the chance even if it means moving Gallo.

What kind of package could Orlando offer Denver that would leave them as a legit contender and give Denver fair value?

,

They could start with Vince Carter's contract, which has a team option in 2012.

But does it really give them fair value as a player? Knicks can offer cap relief with Curry's contract as well.

No, but they could also throw in a Gortat, maybe a Pietrus and that big man they picked in the draft. I think Orlando is much more willing to take on bad contracts at this point than the Knicks. Cap space may not that be that big of a deal to Denver anyway because it looks like they have a number of guys who can come off their books after this season.

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8/17/2010  6:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/17/2010  6:54 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Totally agree. You pull the trigger on this deal. For those who are saying wait till next year, I doubt Denver is living by that slogan. While we are being patient, he will by shipped off to Orlando or some other team. If he's there to be had, you jump at the chance even if it means moving Gallo.

What kind of package could Orlando offer Denver that would leave them as a legit contender and give Denver fair value?

,

They could start with Vince Carter's contract, which has a team option in 2012.

But does it really give them fair value as a player? Knicks can offer cap relief with Curry's contract as well.

No, but they could also throw in a Gortat, maybe a Pietrus and that big man they picked in the draft. I think Orlando is much more willing to take on bad contracts at this point than the Knicks. Cap space may not that be that big of a deal to Denver anyway because it looks like they have a number of guys who can come off their books after this season.

I don't know if that would be such a great deal for Denver. Look at Pietrus and Gortat's playoff stats, their numbers dropped with
every series. The Knicks could offer cap relief and better, younger, prospects. I don't want them to if they end up giving away the store to get Melo.

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8/17/2010  6:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/17/2010  6:54 PM
I rather trade Amare than trade Gallo or Anthony Randolph.

Gallo and Randolph are on the come up.

Turiaf
Randolph
Gallo
Melo
Felton

That lineup is SWEET.

Hypothetical 3-way

Amare to Houston

Melo and Martin to NY

Chandler, Hill, Patterson, Walker, Curry, and picks from NY.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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8/17/2010  6:54 PM
iSergio wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:This smells bad this smells like Gallo AR and Chandler for Melo

if the knicks do anything like this they get what they deserve


they will be capped out with a thin roster and no picks

Nah it won't be all 3. 2/3 at most and most likely imho.

And if we are winning 55 games every year and a title contender with Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony, who cares about picks and the 10th-12th man?


If I was in charge its pretty simple-- Gallo and AR are off the table. If that means no Melo--that that is fine with me. I can be patient for on yer and enjoy the team we have now. Right now Denver can really get top value. Just because Melp says NY or whatever doesnt mean he would accept a Dallas or LAetc.. what does that mean--NY will continually have to 1 UP the offer.

if I believe Gallo can be a 22-5-5 player Randolph an 18-11-3 player and Chandler a 20-5-4 player well its not worth it to me. Randolph provides basically the only shot blocking we have---we could get worse by trading for Melo depending on who it may be.

C Anthony was on a stacked team---how many times did they go the the finals?

If I dont get him in FA I hope that another etams trumps any offer that we give. C Anthony is not a make or break player. Older fans will recall a better player the Knicks had Bernard King and we had some decent other pieces made us just a competitive team and Melo is not King in his prime.

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8/17/2010  6:59 PM
BRIGGS wrote:This smells bad this smells like Gallo AR and Chandler for Melo

if the knicks do anything like this they get what they deserve


they will be capped out with a thin roster and no picks

Briggs, the Knicks have all the leverage here and the upperhand. If Carmello demands a trade and only wants to play for the Knicks, then the Nuggets eventually are going to have to give in and take what the Knicks are willing to give, or else they'll get NOTHING.

If this is the case, lets hope that the Knicks are the only team he wants to play for.

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8/17/2010  7:24 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:This smells bad this smells like Gallo AR and Chandler for Melo

if the knicks do anything like this they get what they deserve


they will be capped out with a thin roster and no picks

Briggs, the Knicks have all the leverage here and the upperhand. If Carmello demands a trade and only wants to play for the Knicks, then the Nuggets eventually are going to have to give in and take what the Knicks are willing to give, or else they'll get NOTHING.

If this is the case, lets hope that the Knicks are the only team he wants to play for.

They have leverage next year in FA. There are 29 other teams in the NBA and some of those are very desirable destinations. If we are caught in a one up war---what I thought we had will be destroyed and it may take the franchise down despite acquiring Melo. What I mean by a 1 up war is is a team like Philidelphia for example says we ll give you Evan turner Speights Thad Young Kapono and a number 1 pick in 2012 --wed have to give up ar gallo Chandler an additional pick. You dont think that some teams will one up big for Carmelo?? You dont want to get into that type of war.

RIP Crushalot😞
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8/17/2010  7:34 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Totally agree. You pull the trigger on this deal. For those who are saying wait till next year, I doubt Denver is living by that slogan. While we are being patient, he will by shipped off to Orlando or some other team. If he's there to be had, you jump at the chance even if it means moving Gallo.

What kind of package could Orlando offer Denver that would leave them as a legit contender and give Denver fair value?

,

They could start with Vince Carter's contract, which has a team option in 2012.

But does it really give them fair value as a player? Knicks can offer cap relief with Curry's contract as well.

For God's sake! Stop with the cap relief! Nuggets are not trading Anthony for cap relief! He is an expiring contract. Why would they trade him for an expiring that can't even play? It makes zero sense.
They'll want assets.

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8/17/2010  7:38 PM
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Totally agree. You pull the trigger on this deal. For those who are saying wait till next year, I doubt Denver is living by that slogan. While we are being patient, he will by shipped off to Orlando or some other team. If he's there to be had, you jump at the chance even if it means moving Gallo.

What kind of package could Orlando offer Denver that would leave them as a legit contender and give Denver fair value?

,

They could start with Vince Carter's contract, which has a team option in 2012.

But does it really give them fair value as a player? Knicks can offer cap relief with Curry's contract as well.

For God's sake! Stop with the cap relief! Nuggets are not trading Anthony for cap relief! He is an expiring contract. Why would they trade him for an expiring that can't even play? It makes zero sense.
They'll want assets.

+1

Also - For god's sake please stop wishing melo to ny. we already have a team.

Had enough Melo?
Carmelo Unlikely to stay with Nuggs

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