BRIGGS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:So Donnie f'n lied to us? He said he was done with the FA market.

Have we ever had this much beef and length on our front line? This guy sounds like a moose.

Maybe this is the enforcer who is going to give up some hard fouls against the guy whose posse questioned Walsh's virility?

This signing is all about the kind of players Walsh wants on a team. Based on the comments I read about his offensive skills I can't see that MDA would want this guy as a 5. Getting this guy is all Donnie. I think there is some tension going on between him and MDA. I also think the GS trade is one Walsh wanted more than MDA.

We have enough bulk to actually inspire some fear in people who try to drive on our basket. Folks expecting a free ride to our hoop are going to be facing a rude reality this season.

By the way- how does this set back our cap room?

Hey Palladin 55 I don't hide that Im not really a fan of how mDA coaches basketball--maybe it looks snazzy but I prefer the way DW built up the Indiana frontline--hey that was a time when there were many big teams and getting to the basket wasnt easy. We just saw a monsterous Laker team win it all two times in a row. You have to be able to play defense and rebound to win and you need big guys to score easy points and clog the lane on D. If I had my pick for this team--I would go with a Mark jackson--he had good things to say about Randolph and I just see him-=--as a guy who played for a lot of good coaches--he was here when Pitino used 10 guys --I just think a guy like M Jackson would be better for this team. Thats just the way I see it. I see Mark Jackson like a Scotty Brooks like coach.

We seem to be creating a team that just might be able to win in more than one way. We have speed, length, bulk, fewer snipers than what Mike wants, but enough to make him happy, we have a number of guys who can play D, and we have a number of guys who can mix it up.

This guy just might be the reason Walsh was not more aggressive going after bigs during the draft, although he took the risk that someone might have snatched him up with a late #2, if this is true.

It will be interesting to see how MDA uses the assets Walsh has given him. We basically have a talent level that should get us into the playoffs, IMO. It is up to the coach to use what he has to get the job done.

VDesai wrote:I'm not against this but 3 yrs/10 mil is kind of a lot for a player who hasn't proven a thing in the NBA. Even first round draft picks don't even make that much. I wonder who we were bidding against that we gave him that kind of deal.

Regardless I hope he works out- would've been nice to put him in Summer League.

Why cant we put him in the SL?

NYY1NYK2 wrote:

VDesai wrote:I'm not against this but 3 yrs/10 mil is kind of a lot for a player who hasn't proven a thing in the NBA. Even first round draft picks don't even make that much. I wonder who we were bidding against that we gave him that kind of deal.

Regardless I hope he works out- would've been nice to put him in Summer League.

Why cant we put him in the SL?

Rosters set. Already too late

VDesai wrote:I'm not against this but 3 yrs/10 mil is kind of a lot for a player who hasn't proven a thing in the NBA. Even first round draft picks don't even make that much. I wonder who we were bidding against that we gave him that kind of deal.

Regardless I hope he works out- would've been nice to put him in Summer League.

From Posting and Toasting:

Update: Givony just twat this:

Mozgov can play guys. He's a big body and super athletic guy who rebounds, block shots and finishes really well around the rim.

Update from the very reliable Sham Sports:

I saw Khimki about 14 times in 2008-09. So while I'm not trying to brag, trust me when I implore to you that Mozgov is an NBA player.

Also from Sham Sports:
That's a great signing for the Knicks. Between him, Turiaf and Randolph, they've got themselves some interior defense.
about 5 hours ago via web

The guys seems to have some admirers, and I assume that Walsh saw him in person.

Maybe a sleeper giant from Russia?

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:MDA can coach! PERIOD! I can't wait for some of you guys to see what he can do for players that aren't selfish and want to be coached. DW is giving him a team full of balance and options. MDA coached Shaq for goodness sake. He played Jared, Barron and if he had stayed healthy Curry would've played too. He went to the WCF with Diaw and KT. MDA plays guys who can help him win.

What do you think Donnie is just gonna force players down MDA's throat with no regard for how his system works? MDA and DW I have no doubt, are in synch on what the plan is for this roster. Both men realize you need size to compete, but you need GOOD players with size. They'll try to develop these bigs. Some will excel and stay some won't. It's worth a shot to see if we catch lighting in a bottle. I love how Donnie is loading up the bench with high upside young talent. Isn't that what many have been screaming about? Our capspace is being used perfectly by Donnie. We've never had this much raw talent and size since the Ewing era ended. This is what DW does best.

I agree with everything that you said about Walsh and I am very excited about what he has done this offseason. I disagree about D'Antoni playing bigs and developing players. D'Antoni took the Knicks to 29 wins last year and let his rookies sit while marginal vets with expirings got minutes. D'Antoni has said that he believes bigs slow down the offense and in the past he has not played them. The reason I am questioning Walsh/D'Antoni is because D'Antoni has always been about three point shooting, athleticism, and speed. Size has always been sacrificed to achieve this for D'Antoni teams. Walsh is putting together a team with tremendous size and many of these guys are not three point shooters and some may slow down the offense some. This is different from past practice with these two. Walsh has catered to D'Antoni as much as possible within the parameters of the salary cap and his plan to clear cap space. That doesn't appear to be the case anymore. The Knicks have a roster with young players and a lot of length. Last year the rookies didn't see any significant playing time until the last quarter of the season. Hill because he was on a different team and Douglas's minutes simultaneously went up during the March road trip when Donnie traveled with the team to scout his players and coaching staff. I don't think Walsh is going to provide D'Antoni with the high character low upside vets that don't need coaching. I think Walsh wants to win and build for the future. He knows how to build a winning team but I think he maybe recognizing that D'Antoni doesn't know how to coach a rebuilding, young team.

DW didn't inherit MDA. HE PICKED HIM ABOVE EVERY OTHER OPTION for not only the last 2 yrs but for the future! DW NEVER crosses up his coach. They are putting this team together so that MDA has everything he needs to win. Every big Donnie has added can run and finish and play pick n roll. Also more important they all block shots. This team is perfectly suited to MDA's style.

You think Rautins n Fields aren't MDA types? How about AZ and AR? I'm telling you DW and MDA are on the same page!

I want MDA to be the coach of the team for the next ten years. This is his first season with the Knicks where he cannot say he is lacking in the resources he needs to create a playoff quality team, and I think you will agree that we should see some significant improvement in how the team plays this year, and the improvement should be evident in the Wins/Loss columns.

People are more apprehensive this year because we seem to have a team with much more potential than any we have had in I don't know how many years. MDA is going to be zeroed in on even more this year- you just have to accept that fact.

anklebraker wrote:lol if you translate his name to English it means, Timothy Brain.

we need to give him a nick name..... If he becomes a dominant force, i like KGB

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/walsh_knicks_will_have_pace_for_Jv1N89gUtC6ShaWjrtVp5M?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

this signing does not screw up our cap- we'll have the space to sign a max in 2011 AND 2012, so Cosmic, he might be a bust but don't worry, it won't stop our max agent signing plans. I suppose after so many examples in the past, I'm used to anticipating every 7 ft euro player will be a bust, but if the signing isn't going to hurt our cap particularly, then maybe taking a risk on him isn't so bad. I guess we could of spent that money on a Kurt Thomas (please don't sign with Miami!) which would have been a nice move, but you know, you have to take risks sometimes to get disproportionate rewards. I think where we went wrong in the past 10 years is that all of our risks were irreversable if they didn't work out, so it led to a cycle of trades that got worse and worse. 3mil per year (and maybe the 3rd year isn't guaranteed) is movable even if he's a bust (teams will take it just because 3 mil can balance the salaries in a trade).

His reports sound okay so far, but really we need to carry on taking risks AS LONG as we can back out of them if the don't work out, so I'm not over the moon about this but at the same time it doesn't hurt us, so why not try it.

Knicksfan wrote:Mozgov is reportedly interested in playing in the NBA, but has two more years on his contract after this season. He does have an NBA out clause after 2010-2011, with a buy out. It’s doubtful that Khimki would look to sell his rights this summer considering how valuable his domestic passport is to them. Russian league rules state that two local players must be on the court at all time.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Timofey-Mozgov-5161/#ixzz0tL93mOoQ
http://www.draftexpress.com

This is weird, along with the considerably big and long contract to an unknown euro free agent.

That really sucks and is surprising. It's hard to imagine the Knicks would use their cap space to get someone who won't be here for three years

1. Is he coming over for this upcoming season?

2. Why wasn't he drafted?