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I know Briggs loves this kid but now i might too (Anthony Randolph talk)
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CrushAlot
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7/9/2010  3:21 PM
That was a great read. I am pretty sure he will be my favorite Knick very soon.
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7/9/2010  3:22 PM
CrushAlot wrote:That was a great read. I am pretty sure he will be my favorite Knick very soon.

agreed. he might already be my favorite knick.

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7/9/2010  3:25 PM
CrushALot - here is the good part in the final paragraph

"Ultimately, putting aside all rotation speculation and cap figures, this trade means the end of Randolph, Turiaf and Azubuike as Warriors. That thought leaves me cold. I’ll miss Anthony Randolph’s scowls, Ronny Turiaf’s dances, and Kelenna Azubuike’s quiet confidence. When little else about this team was enjoyable over the past two years, they were. If they being moved to catapult the Warriors into the NBA’s elite, it would be easier to handle. As it stands, my guess is we gave them up for the privilege of moving from the mid to late-lottery. That’s not enough."

now, that's a spicy meatball!

An amazing critique of the deal hereby nominated for POD

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7/9/2010  3:33 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:bigD.. AR is VERY young. He does not have Gallo's mental toughness and maturity. He will need a little coddling in my opinion but the guy really does have star potential, especially in this system. Not sure who said it but if AR is healthy last year there is ZERO chance we can make this trade. This is a great chance for the Knicks to get high caliber talent for below market value.

So are you saying that Randolph has more star potential than Gallanari ?

it was only a matter of time...

Not for nothing but I think it is only right. Many posters including myself took a lot of grief and now I see AR fans popping up everywhere on here. It's a little much to take.

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7/9/2010  4:02 PM
WOW you guys got me very intrigued about Anthony Randolph.
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7/9/2010  4:24 PM
iSergio - dude, it's called research

Pharzeone - it may not be as much a case of bandwagon AR fans as much as a case of Knicks fans looking forward to change. As much as we loved David Lee, we also knew he had a one-way ticket out of town. Lee was left unsigned for a reason. Few opinions had him as a part of a sign and trade.

I'm still not certain how that works for unrestricted free agents.... but minimally Donnie Walsh transformed the Lee departure into a cause for curiosity about the three new parts. Especially the object of Briggs loyal affection, Randolph.

6'11 yoot with hops, rhythm and a handle?

David who?

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7/9/2010  4:26 PM
There are 2 big men that I thought all last year would really develop into game changers and climb to the top of the Center position... Anthony Randolph and JaVale McGee. There just seems to be something special about both these players. Their length and ability to alter shots in the paint are very impressive. I am ecstatic that we were able to come away with one of these guys this offseason. What a great start to an interesting offseason for the Knicks. Besides all the drama with no balls Lebron that is.
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7/9/2010  5:00 PM
He really does resemble Camby to me. Maybe I'm just nostalgic, but the awkwardly awesome put backs are just too similar.
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7/9/2010  5:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/9/2010  5:27 PM
Pharzeone wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:bigD.. AR is VERY young. He does not have Gallo's mental toughness and maturity. He will need a little coddling in my opinion but the guy really does have star potential, especially in this system. Not sure who said it but if AR is healthy last year there is ZERO chance we can make this trade. This is a great chance for the Knicks to get high caliber talent for below market value.

So are you saying that Randolph has more star potential than Gallanari ?

it was only a matter of time...

Not for nothing but I think it is only right. Many posters including myself took a lot of grief and now I see AR fans popping up everywhere on here. It's a little much to take.

Yes you are correct, we got bashed around here for identifying the guy we wanted to take in the 2007 draft instead of gallanari, but lets face it we went with a guy that Danphoney knew personally instead of an all-around dominate game changer in Anthony Randolph. This is what he maybe doing in a few yrs for the knicks.

How some after watching Randolph's last college season before the draft thought we should have taken gallanari ahead of him proved it was all about the community pick. This was college ball , but people with vision new this was a rare individual with stardom written all over him.

Lamar Odom was even quoted as saying "Randolph will be All 1st team NBA one day" Not many say that about guys they go up against.

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7/9/2010  5:22 PM
playa2 wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:bigD.. AR is VERY young. He does not have Gallo's mental toughness and maturity. He will need a little coddling in my opinion but the guy really does have star potential, especially in this system. Not sure who said it but if AR is healthy last year there is ZERO chance we can make this trade. This is a great chance for the Knicks to get high caliber talent for below market value.

So are you saying that Randolph has more star potential than Gallanari ?

it was only a matter of time...

Not for nothing but I think it is only right. Many posters including myself took a lot of grief and now I see AR fans popping up everywhere on here. It's a little much to take.

Yes you are correct, we got bashed around here for identifying the guy we wanted to take in the 2007 draft instead of gallanari, but lets face it we went with a guy that Danphoney knew personally instead of an all-around dominate game changer in Anthony Randolph. This is what he maybe doing in a few yrs for the knicks.

How some after watching Randolph's last college season before the draft thought we should have taken gallanari ahead of him proved it was all about the community pick. This was college ball , but people with vision new this was a rare individual with stardom written all over him.

Lamar Odom was even quoted as saying "Randolph will be All 1st team NBA one day" Not many say that about guys they go up against.

And now we have both, so what is the complaint?

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7/9/2010  5:28 PM
iSergio wrote:
misterearl wrote:iSergio - Randolph a bum?

I look forward to reading your utterly bitter quote again in November

How good do you think he can be? Marcus Camby? I'd be happy if he's Chris "Birdman" Anderson.

Maybe I'm alone on this one, but if AR can have the same impact on a game that Birdman can, then I'd be thrilled. That's not a knock on either player, b/c I am a big Birdman fan.

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7/9/2010  9:02 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I'm hearing that Randolph might be a bit of headcase. Does anyone here know if the problem was Nelson, who is known to be a little kooky, or if it is just the fact that Randolph is young and immature. It might say something that Nelson decided to keep Brandon Wright over Randolph. Then again, it might mean nothing considering that GSW traded for Lee in the first place.

I remember Nelson souring on him in year one. Told the kid to pick a team he wanted to be traded to.

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7/9/2010  9:08 PM
misterearl wrote:A GSW Fan Comment - Great Read

by Adam Lauridsen

Anthony Randolph was my favorite Warrior. As a fan-blogger, I’m allowed to have favorites. And as a fan, those favorites don’t have to be entirely logical. Randolph was a raw, frustrating and inconsistent force during his two years with the Warriors. But he was also ferocious, explosive, relentless and gifted. During his brief time on the team he made plays and changed games in ways that left a far bigger mark on my basketball memories than any box score or game log can capture. On a team long known for taking the conservative option and making the safe pick, Randolph was reckless — and I loved him for it.

The wild streak that made Randolph a favorite of some also likely lead him head first into a clash with coach Don Nelson. We will never know whether Randolph’s relationship with Nelson sealed his fate, what transpired between the two as Randolph fought to scrape together two or three games of consistent playing time, or what Randolph could have become if he had lasted until a new coach arrived. But it’s hard to watch the Warriors’ most highly regarded big man prospect since Chris Webber — not just in the opinion of homer fans, but of those around the league — pack his bags without being haunted by those questions. And those questions are just the tip of the iceberg.

Debating the Randolph trade is likely to devolve into a semi-religious exercise. Those who believe Randolph had the skills to be special will complain that we gave up on him too soon, based on their faith that he could have developed with a different coach and more playing time. Those skeptical of Randolph’s future will demand proof and point to the cold, hard, impressive statistics already logged by David Lee. My last post covered these opposing grounds, so I don’t see much point in rehashing them here. I’m in the camp of true believers who saw Randolph developing into a two-way threat, an intense gamer that could provide some fire next to Curry’s icy cool, and a rare mesh of big and small-man talents that could eventually make him an All Star or more. Time will tell whether I had it all wrong.

More interesting to me, now that the deal is done, are the questions concerning where exactly this leaves the Warriors. This is the biggest deal the team has made since the Baron Davis trade — possibly more significant when you consider the talent departing the squad — and it’s likely to produce some dramatic changes. Here’s what it has left me wondering:

Who is the best defender on the team? Pre-trade, that title likely went to Azubuike or Turiaf. When both were down last season, the Warriors’ PR front stressed how much the team missed them on the defensive end. Now they’re gone — permanently and voluntarily. Randolph’s departure also means the loss of an excellent shot blocker and a quality help defender. So the new leader of the NBA’s worst defense is now … Stephen Curry? Monta Ellis? Ekpe Udoh? Charlie Bell? These aren’t names that inspire confidence that we’re any closer to fixing our number one problem from last season (and beyond): the total inability to come up with stops. Given the names left on our roster, it’s hard for me to assemble a line-up where 4 out of 5 players aren’t defensive liabilities. That’s not how you build a team to make the playoffs, let alone compete in them.

Oh boy! And these guys wanted David Lee as a defensive stalwart?

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7/9/2010  9:25 PM
Sangfroid wrote:
misterearl wrote:A GSW Fan Comment - Great Read

by Adam Lauridsen

Who is the best defender on the team? Pre-trade, that title likely went to Azubuike or Turiaf. When both were down last season, the Warriors’ PR front stressed how much the team missed them on the defensive end. Now they’re gone — permanently and voluntarily. Randolph’s departure also means the loss of an excellent shot blocker and a quality help defender.

Oh boy! And these guys wanted David Lee as a defensive stalwart?

People rag on MDA for our D- Golden State just traded their 3 best defenders for David Lee.

Go figure.

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7/10/2010  12:18 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:
misterearl wrote:A GSW Fan Comment - Great Read

by Adam Lauridsen

Who is the best defender on the team? Pre-trade, that title likely went to Azubuike or Turiaf. When both were down last season, the Warriors’ PR front stressed how much the team missed them on the defensive end. Now they’re gone — permanently and voluntarily. Randolph’s departure also means the loss of an excellent shot blocker and a quality help defender.

Oh boy! And these guys wanted David Lee as a defensive stalwart?

People rag on MDA for our D- Golden State just traded their 3 best defenders for David Lee.

Go figure.

I figured Nellie hates defense worse than MDA and have stated so in the past. Not surprised at all.

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7/10/2010  8:39 PM
The 6-11 Randolph already has joined the Knicks' summer league team in Las Vegas, although he is expected only to practice with the team.

"He's a superior talent," Walsh said. "He's got skill, athleticism, very long arms, so I think he can be a very, very special player if we can develop him."

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I know Briggs loves this kid but now i might too (Anthony Randolph talk)

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