fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:

iSergio wrote:Joe Johnson at the MAX and David Lee for $12M is a terrible offseason. We kill a lot of our cap space on two players who won't help us win many games.

you will get a lot of spin doctors around here who will say that would be a very successful outcome after all the moves to clear salary, but you won't get any arguments from me... we better land a real superstar to build around this summer or else we would have been better off not making the T-Mac trade.

thats arm chair QBing. Why stop with the JJ trade? If we dont get a star we should have kept Zach and Jamal. Jamal was scoring 20 a game and playing great under MDA. Lee and Zach were putting up good #s playing together and the Knicks were off to a good start at 6-5. Throw in a healthy Gallo, assume we still draft Douglas, maybe sign a guy like Livingston with the MLE and you have a solid team. CERTAINLY a playoff team:

PG Crawford/Douglas
SG Chandler/Livingston
SF Gallo/Walker
PF Zach
C Lee/Barron
There's your 9 man rotation. Pretty solid group. Lots of rebounding and fire power. That group is going to look pretty good rebounding the ball, pushing it up court and taking the first open look they can. You have Zach and Lee crashing the offensive boards and cleaning the glass.

the point is clearing all the big contracts and giving up stuff to do so has given us a chance to sign 2 max FAs in the best FA class ever. Its the same thing we talked about 7 years ago when Wade, Amare, Lebron, etc were in the best draft class ever. Lets firesell for a CHANCE at these guys. If we miss we miss, but shooting for a CHANCE for that kind of star is the right thing to do.

Either you believe this CHANCE is worth taking or you dont.

All this talk about Joe Johnson or what trades to make if we dont get a star is secondary. That isnt the plan. Thats what to you when what your trying for doesnt work. There are some desirable scenarios and some undesirable ones.

It doesnt really matter. It all comes down to whether or not you think this course of action was worth it.

TMS you were all for dumping Zach and Crawford's contracts. They were bad. But we werent getting a max star to come here with 3 other guys on the roster. We needed to either bring in a 2nd max guy or be able to bring back Lee and some semblance of a supporting cast. The Zach/Crawford/JJ trades all go hand in hand.

Every plan, no matter how good can fail. Its all risk reward. This plan can yield an amazing team and a star. It can yield 3-4 more years of frustration if the plan B isnt managed.

All I can say about Walsh so far is he's done what no other GM has done here in 10 years which is stick to a plan. For me he gets 3-4 years to build the team. He wants to do it through FA. OK, lets see what he gets. His moves have all been for a reason so far and really only one move has clearly been poor (Hill pick).

i'm not ready to say that. jennings would have been a much better pick, sure. but the guy basically sits his whole rookie year, then goes to a western conference above-.500 team and throws down games like 12-9 in 16 minutes, 15-3 in 18 minutes, 11-7-5blks in 27 mins. and he's 6'10" 235. i'd take him in a SECOND on my team with 3 more years to develop him at rookie scale.

TMS wrote:my belief is that DW better have something already worked out with Lebron's agent for this summer, otherwise trading away a #8 lottery selection & 2 possible future lottery picks was a boneheaded move to make.

and my belief is that donnie arranged for you get that job in the government to take you away from criticizing him all day on the internet.

TMS wrote:my belief is that DW better have something already worked out with Lebron's agent for this summer, otherwise trading away a #8 lottery selection & 2 possible future lottery picks was a boneheaded move to make.

is your opinion only based on lebron and another free agent or could it be any of the two big FA?