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nixluva
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4/21/2010  3:04 AM
The whole idea is predicated on medical opinion after all you can't expect DW to just blindly trade for any player without knowing his health. I'm positive he'll make the smart call. We don't have to do anything that is too risky at this point.

I believe there will be several teams willing to make some sort of deal and we'll be ready.
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4/21/2010  8:13 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
s3231 wrote:All I know is I'm not even a Hornets fan and Paul's removed meniscus scares me. Bone on bone grinding? Yikes.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/354816-knee-issues-could-potentially-hinder-future-of-nba-all-star-paul

They removed his meniscus? Did they replace it with a cartilidge transplant? If not, that's a major microfracture surgery waiting to happen. I'm becoming more and more scarred away by Chris Paul by the moment. I'd go after Okafor though. What makes people think that NO would trade him for cheap just because he has a bad contract though?

I'd take a chance on Paul simply because of his style of play. He's not the type to sky and throw down dunks like Deron and some of the other points. He's in some ways more of a Nash type, meaning he doesn't rely on athleticism to get it done. As such, I think he'll be more than capable of coming back and like Nash & Kidd, playing at a high level for years to come.

Its the athletic freaks that often deteriorate badly after such surgeries (say Hi McBrittle)

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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4/21/2010  10:43 AM
Amazing how many Dr's we have in the house...Im really going to need to see some ID
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4/21/2010  10:50 AM
OK4 has not played with the desired intensity in years.
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4/21/2010  11:40 AM
BRIGGS wrote:OK4 has not played with the desired intensity in years.

Isn't that quote sacrilegious for a big UCONN fan like yourself?

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4/21/2010  11:45 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:OK4 has not played with the desired intensity in years.

Isn't that quote sacrilegious for a big UCONN fan like yourself?

who coaches intensity better than mike d'andruffi?
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4/21/2010  11:52 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
s3231 wrote:All I know is I'm not even a Hornets fan and Paul's removed meniscus scares me. Bone on bone grinding? Yikes.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/354816-knee-issues-could-potentially-hinder-future-of-nba-all-star-paul

They removed his meniscus? Did they replace it with a cartilidge transplant? If not, that's a major microfracture surgery waiting to happen. I'm becoming more and more scarred away by Chris Paul by the moment. I'd go after Okafor though. What makes people think that NO would trade him for cheap just because he has a bad contract though?

I'd take a chance on Paul simply because of his style of play. He's not the type to sky and throw down dunks like Deron and some of the other points. He's in some ways more of a Nash type, meaning he doesn't rely on athleticism to get it done. As such, I think he'll be more than capable of coming back and like Nash & Kidd, playing at a high level for years to come.

Its the athletic freaks that often deteriorate badly after such surgeries (say Hi McBrittle)

Exactly. I consider myself a pretty big cp3 fan and I've only seen him dunk once... and it wasn't very impressive, so we dnt have to worry too much about the bone on bone grinding because they won't be grinding as hard with him as they would with a more atheleticly based point. Not to mention I'd take cp3 with one good knee over the PGA that are fa's this summer and ok4's contract is not too big I think under mda a defensive minded big is what you want. This doesn't look bad to me:

pg-cp3
sg-?
Sf-will
pf-gallo
c-ok4

and just to be clear this isn't my prefered way of using the cap space this summer but it makes for an acceptable back-up plan

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4/21/2010  12:07 PM
I do the deal in a heartbeat. Lebron is going to say no to playing with Chris Paul and Gallo? His team right now doesn't have one other guy with onions to win a game. Everyone ****s on Lee but put him on the cavs and he is the second leading scorer just about every night out there cashing in jumps.

I don't love OK4, but after what Camby got you have to consider it.
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4/21/2010  12:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2010  12:13 PM
Marv wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:OK4 has not played with the desired intensity in years.

Isn't that quote sacrilegious for a big UCONN fan like yourself?

who coaches intensity better than mike d'andruffi?

Ok4 isn't the only player on the hornets that lacked intensity. The whole team underacheives except for cp3. I think a fresh start in dantoni's system would help inspire him. However, dnt expect dantoni to coach intensity because he believes as I do that the millions those players are paid along with the oppurtunity of winning in nyc should be enough to motivate a player.

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4/21/2010  12:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2010  12:31 PM
Okafor does not lack intensity, he's sort of like Amare. Take away his point guard and he doesn't look nearly as good. Hell, CP made Tyson Chandler look decent so, that should tell you something.

The guy blocked more shots in 1games last season then all of the Knick players combined for the whole season (yeah I'm exaggerating but, not by far). We need a guy like that.

He's not overpaid; its the length of his contract that bothers people.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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4/21/2010  12:53 PM
It seems to me that the ball gets Rollin with a trade for a star. This why there's so much stress on a deal for CP3. It's a deal that makes some sense for both teams. We can solve two HUGE problems with one move! OK4 n Paul strengthens the team right up the middle and then every other addition means more than it would without strength up the middle.

I'd then consider making a play for Livingston and Gay if you can't land Lebron or Bosh. You'd have a nice young talented team.
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4/21/2010  1:26 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:Okafor does not lack intensity, he's sort of like Amare. Take away his point guard and he doesn't look nearly as good. Hell, CP made Tyson Chandler look decent so, that should tell you something.

The guy blocked more shots in 1games last season then all of the Knick players combined for the whole season (yeah I'm exaggerating but, not by far). We need a guy like that.

He's not overpaid; its the length of his contract that bothers people.

I find it funny that ok4's 5 yr contract ends when he's gonna be about 32 and people think it's too long, isn't camby 34? They're similar players.

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4/21/2010  1:30 PM
If the knicks dealt lee to NO for cp3 and ok4 would they still have enough cap to offer lebron a max contract? If so imagine this:

pg-cp3
sg-Chandler
sf-bron bron
pf-gallo
c-ok4

I would be extremely happy with that

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4/21/2010  1:31 PM
Loconixfan wrote:If the knicks dealt lee to NO for cp3 and ok4 would they still have enough cap to offer lebron a max contract? If so imagine this:

pg-cp3
sg-Chandler
sf-bron bron
pf-gallo
c-ok4

I would be extremely happy with that

no they would not.
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4/21/2010  1:36 PM
Marv wrote:
Loconixfan wrote:If the knicks dealt lee to NO for cp3 and ok4 would they still have enough cap to offer lebron a max contract? If so imagine this:

pg-cp3
sg-Chandler
sf-bron bron
pf-gallo
c-ok4

I would be extremely happy with that

no they would not.

You would have to include Curry to make that happen.

You know I gonna spin wit it
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4/21/2010  1:37 PM
Loconixfan wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:Okafor does not lack intensity, he's sort of like Amare. Take away his point guard and he doesn't look nearly as good. Hell, CP made Tyson Chandler look decent so, that should tell you something.

The guy blocked more shots in 1games last season then all of the Knick players combined for the whole season (yeah I'm exaggerating but, not by far). We need a guy like that.

He's not overpaid; its the length of his contract that bothers people.

I find it funny that ok4's 5 yr contract ends when he's gonna be about 32 and people think it's too long, isn't camby 34? They're similar players.

marcus just turned 36 and dont you think they are completely different players?

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4/21/2010  1:37 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Marv wrote:
Loconixfan wrote:If the knicks dealt lee to NO for cp3 and ok4 would they still have enough cap to offer lebron a max contract? If so imagine this:

pg-cp3
sg-Chandler
sf-bron bron
pf-gallo
c-ok4

I would be extremely happy with that

no they would not.

You would have to include Curry to make that happen.

i refuse to part with him.
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4/21/2010  1:40 PM
Marv wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Marv wrote:
Loconixfan wrote:If the knicks dealt lee to NO for cp3 and ok4 would they still have enough cap to offer lebron a max contract? If so imagine this:

pg-cp3
sg-Chandler
sf-bron bron
pf-gallo
c-ok4

I would be extremely happy with that

no they would not.

You would have to include Curry to make that happen.

i refuse to part with him.

what's it with you and your attraction towards overly large men?

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4/21/2010  1:42 PM
MS wrote:I do the deal in a heartbeat. Lebron is going to say no to playing with Chris Paul and Gallo? His team right now doesn't have one other guy with onions to win a game. Everyone ****s on Lee but put him on the cavs and he is the second leading scorer just about every night out there cashing in jumps.

I don't love OK4, but after what Camby got you have to consider it.

jamison is quite similar to lee. he can get 10+ rbs, and was a 20pt guy before he was traded. he also plays no def.

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4/21/2010  1:45 PM
sidsanders wrote:
MS wrote:I do the deal in a heartbeat. Lebron is going to say no to playing with Chris Paul and Gallo? His team right now doesn't have one other guy with onions to win a game. Everyone ****s on Lee but put him on the cavs and he is the second leading scorer just about every night out there cashing in jumps.

I don't love OK4, but after what Camby got you have to consider it.

jamison is quite similar to lee. he can get 10+ rbs, and was a 20pt guy before he was traded. he also plays no def.

oh, that's a good comparison.

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