Childs2Dudley wrote:Not a powerhouse but at least they're not Trinidad and Tobago! LOL, sorry bro.

We'll always have that nil-nil draw against Sweden >sniff<

I really wish we could have gotten a goal against England. Take that, Colonizers! Ah well.

K22 wrote:

tkf wrote:worst defensive effort in years.. I don't ever, ever want to see this same unit of players together again, after this effort...

Hopefully, this officially closes the book on this era/error and the start of a new beginning - one that is so very very desperately needed.

Do your soul a favor and bank on it being an even 10 seasons of suck. You may get pleasantly surprised, but you won't get disappointed.

K22 wrote:Being hopeful is not the same as being optimistic. Quite frankly, hope is all we got left at this point.

All I got left is one more Yuengling.

Congratulations everybody, you survived another season without defecting to the Raptors!

Pharzeone wrote:<twinkling fingers> Two years have come and gone. So another year that MDA doesn't have Nash and the results are the same. A career 33% winning coach without Nash continues. There have been peaks and valleys well mostly chasms. Next up Donnie Walsh. I'm waiting on Lebron/Wade/Bosh to come aboard to turn this ship around and make it all worth it.

This is about the least well-thought out post I have seen in a while.

Pharzeone wrote:

martin wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:<twinkling fingers> Two years have come and gone. So another year that MDA doesn't have Nash and the results are the same. A career 33% winning coach without Nash continues. There have been peaks and valleys well mostly chasms. Next up Donnie Walsh. I'm waiting on Lebron/Wade/Bosh to come aboard to turn this ship around and make it all worth it.

This is about the least well-thought out post I have seen in a while.

Don't hate. Pretty much on point. Said two years ago and just updated. But you keep the vigil alive and keep the faith.

Nah man, I'm with you. I'd rather prepare the funeral arrangements right now.

The New York Knicks franchise is dead and now it needs to be buried.

Where are we holding the proceedings?

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

martin wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:<twinkling fingers> Two years have come and gone. So another year that MDA doesn't have Nash and the results are the same. A career 33% winning coach without Nash continues. There have been peaks and valleys well mostly chasms. Next up Donnie Walsh. I'm waiting on Lebron/Wade/Bosh to come aboard to turn this ship around and make it all worth it.

This is about the least well-thought out post I have seen in a while.

Don't hate. Pretty much on point. Said two years ago and just updated. But you keep the vigil alive and keep the faith.

Nah man, I'm with you. I'd rather prepare the funeral arrangements right now.

The New York Knicks franchise is dead and now it needs to be buried.

Where are we holding the proceedings?

Since they're out of town, they have to wait their turn. Dolan and Sather is holding one for the Rangers right about now at MSG.

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:<twinkling fingers> Two years have come and gone. So another year that MDA doesn't have Nash and the results are the same. A career 33% winning coach without Nash continues. There have been peaks and valleys well mostly chasms. Next up Donnie Walsh. I'm waiting on Lebron/Wade/Bosh to come aboard to turn this ship around and make it all worth it.

This is about the least well-thought out post I have seen in a while.

I disagree. SOME Knick fans want defense and intense effort. Thibs was a part of that before and was a part of that for a championship team. Over the past two seasons every suspected fault of D'Antoni's has come to fruition in NY as well as more faults. He has not done a good job and his style is the opposite of what has been successful in NY. The only defense I have heard for D'Antoni and his crazy rotations, player relation problems, drama, refusal to develop and play rookies when he was coaching a team going nowhere filled with players who would be gone the following season, and losing at a rate only matched by the other two seasons that he coached without Nash as his point guard is that he doesn't have his players. I think if Thibs is in place fans start calling for D'Antoni to be fired very early on. I also think D'Antoni tries to sabotage Thibs as there is no way a guy as rigid as D'Antoni changes or accepts the edict to change.

fixed that for you. and whose says they arent playing intensely now? just because they aren't playing intensely on defense? believe me, i like defense as much as the next guy, but everyone here knows the story. d'antoni was brought here for 2010 and to coach the team that we get from 2010 so what's the point of bitching and moaning about the all other crap? whether you like it or not, thats the way it is and some people here have a problem facing the facts of the matter on d'antoni. yes, we all know he likes offense, but face the facts that he's an offensive coach and he's here to stay for atleast another 2 years.

and just reading the rest of your post - the same crap that goes on here with the d'antoni can be said about the previous 3 coaches before him, when are people going to realize it's not the coaches, it's the players.

Marv wrote:

martin wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:<twinkling fingers> Two years have come and gone. So another year that MDA doesn't have Nash and the results are the same. A career 33% winning coach without Nash continues. There have been peaks and valleys well mostly chasms. Next up Donnie Walsh. I'm waiting on Lebron/Wade/Bosh to come aboard to turn this ship around and make it all worth it.

This is about the least well-thought out post I have seen in a while.

you look at the man's full coaching record at denver, phoenix and new york. you look at the way he handled his job this year. does make you wonder.

i thought MDA did a crap job this year all things considered. But how can you compare it to what happened in denver, pho, ny? They don't even come close to resembling the same or similar situations.

Denver - took over 20 games into the season. Previous year team was something like 10-70. What can you take from that situation and compare it to either NY or PHO?
New York - we all know Donnie has been tearing down the team over the past 2 years. How does that compare to the situation in PHO?

My sense is that MDA is not a developmental coach in the same way as Scott Skiles is better with younger teams. But the opposite also holds: MDA commands a lot more respect from a vet team than his counterparts (Skiles, etc.)... and I kinda get that feel from a guy like Phil Jackson too.

if bargs were playing under d'antoni, he would average closer to 40 ppg.

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:

martin wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:<twinkling fingers> Two years have come and gone. So another year that MDA doesn't have Nash and the results are the same. A career 33% winning coach without Nash continues. There have been peaks and valleys well mostly chasms. Next up Donnie Walsh. I'm waiting on Lebron/Wade/Bosh to come aboard to turn this ship around and make it all worth it.

This is about the least well-thought out post I have seen in a while.

you look at the man's full coaching record at denver, phoenix and new york. you look at the way he handled his job this year. does make you wonder.

i thought MDA did a crap job this year all things considered. But how can you compare it to what happened in denver, pho, ny? They don't even come close to resembling the same or similar situations.

Denver - took over 20 games into the season. Previous year team was something like 10-70. What can you take from that situation and compare it to either NY or PHO?
New York - we all know Donnie has been tearing down the team over the past 2 years. How does that compare to the situation in PHO?

My sense is that MDA is not a developmental coach in the same way as Scott Skiles is better with younger teams. But the opposite also holds: MDA commands a lot more respect from a vet team than his counterparts (Skiles, etc.)... and I kinda get that feel from a guy like Phil Jackson too.

pharzeone's point was that mda has not shown that he has anything to add as a coach unless he has one of the greatest point guards in the history of the sport to run his team. he's shown it with consistency and across 3 franchises now. he may disprove it next year or he may continue the trend. You can say he commands the respect of vets or you can say he wins when a 2-time mvp runs his offense. Can’t prove which one is really the case yet.