Srod is a career backup. Maybe a good one at that.

But heck, compared to Duhon he's a huge upgrade.

nixluva wrote:TMS what were you looking at? He was making great passes all night and shouldve had far mire assists if our guys finished the plays. Man if you didn't see how good he was penetrating and spotting and hitting guys I don't know what to tell you. For a guy just dropped into a situation like this he was very impressive. I have to say you weren't paying attention. He made the right pass at the right time on most of his possesions.

can u point out these instances of these great passes to me since you feel so strongly about it? i saw him make 1 flashy behind the back pass to D Lee on the high post when Lee was wide open... didn't really see the need for him to make a behind the back pass in that case, but whatever, not gonna rag on the guy for it, he got the ball to the open man... what are the rest of these awesome passes you're talking about that he made last night? i already watched the game twice, once on DVR & once on rewind... since u think i wasn't paying attention, let me know what i missed specifically.

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We cannot resign S Rodriquez--look at his caphold--he will have to be renounced. I think you guys should look into how the cap works. All of this stuff T Mac etc... S Rod--these guys are gone--they are here for 30 games.

not the case at all. His QO next year is $2.8mm which I can see us offering him. He's a really solid playmaker and very quick. Much more athletic than I thought. I was pretty impressed with his skills. 30 games is a good time to eval him. We need a PG next year, and its more likley will add one max guy and use the rest to resign Lee and build the roster (Jermaine Oneil? Camby? Sergio?)

There is a difference between the qualifying offer and the cap hold. Briggs is right. We will need to renounce rights to SRod to sign our two max free agents. We could offer the QO and give 7 days for him to accept or reject it, but we will need to renounce our rights to him or actually contract him in order to clear his hold off the cap.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:I think you guys are a little over the top with Rodriguez. The dude looked good, but the Steve Nash comparisons are out of control. And he can only hope to hold Westbrook's jockstrap.

Srod is a career backup. Maybe a good one at that.

But heck, compared to Duhon he's a huge upgrade.

Ability to push the ball or advace with the pass: check
Ability to see the floor and read a defense: check
Keeps dribble alive, penetrates and probes defense to create open shots, creative when it's needed, can finish at the hole... Man the kid showed all those skills and that's with no real practice. I'm not worried about his shot right now. The fact that he attacks successfully is gonna help him to be more successful on nights the jumper fails.

He looks better than any PG we've had in terms doing pure PG things in a long time. At this stage of his time here it's so early but to be this capable already it shows a lot about what he may be able to do once MDA gets a chance to really work with him.

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:TMS what were you looking at? He was making great passes all night and shouldve had far mire assists if our guys finished the plays. Man if you didn't see how good he was penetrating and spotting and hitting guys I don't know what to tell you. For a guy just dropped into a situation like this he was very impressive. I have to say you weren't paying attention. He made the right pass at the right time on most of his possesions.

can u point out these instances of these great passes to me since you feel so strongly about it? i saw him make 1 flashy behind the back pass to D Lee on the high post when Lee was wide open... didn't really see the need for him to make a behind the back pass in that case, but whatever, not gonna rag on the guy for it, he got the ball to the open man... what are the rest of these awesome passes you're talking about that he made last night? i already watched the game twice, once on DVR & once on rewind... since u think i wasn't paying attention, let me know what i missed specifically.

The situation wasn't too big for him. He didn't panic or shut down due to nerves tho I'm sure they had some effect on him. A good start.

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:TMS what were you looking at? He was making great passes all night and shouldve had far mire assists if our guys finished the plays. Man if you didn't see how good he was penetrating and spotting and hitting guys I don't know what to tell you. For a guy just dropped into a situation like this he was very impressive. I have to say you weren't paying attention. He made the right pass at the right time on most of his possesions.

can u point out these instances of these great passes to me since you feel so strongly about it? i saw him make 1 flashy behind the back pass to D Lee on the high post when Lee was wide open... didn't really see the need for him to make a behind the back pass in that case, but whatever, not gonna rag on the guy for it, he got the ball to the open man... what are the rest of these awesome passes you're talking about that he made last night? i already watched the game twice, once on DVR & once on rewind... since u think i wasn't paying attention, let me know what i missed specifically.

man it's not about flashy or high degree of difficulty. I'm talking about watching the kid from the start of each possession and seeing if he's making the right decisions at the right time. Watching how he runs the team and sets up good looks, which he did on most of his plays. The team played smoother and faster with him running point. He couldve had more assists if our guys finished the plays.

The situation wasn't too big for him. He didn't panic or shut down due to nerves tho I'm sure they had some effect on him. A good start.

u still aren't giving me any specifics, just generalized statements of opinion... tell me the instances of these great passes he made last night that made u think he's Steve Nash Lite.

i watched the game twice & see that the boxscore says Sergio was a -6 in his time on the court... u can tell me all u want about how great of a positive Sergio was last night, but everything i saw says otherwise.

nixluva wrote:He looks better than any PG we've had in terms doing pure PG things in a long time.

Duhon had some pretty impressive statlines in December in games we won... i have zero idea how u can quantify this statement off a 5 & 6 performance in a game we lost by Sergio in a reserve role... it's way too early to judge a thing on this guy.

TMS wrote:Sergio's line:

5 pts. / 6 ast. / 3 reb. / 1 stl. / 2 to's on 2 of 8 shooting in 26 min.
0 for 3 from 3 pt. range
1 for 2 from FT line
-6 in +/-

y'all is sippin' some serious Kool Aid, that's all i'ma say.

Maybe. Maybe you are still bitter about the 2 picks and he is a constant reminder of the 2 picks
There will be a bigger sample size to compare the 2.

I've got eyes and I know what I saw was a kid that understood the game and knew the right thing to do and when. Neither Nate nor TD ever showed me they understood those things. He has a lot more improvement to make but I love his overall talent.

nixluva wrote:I don't have the free time to go and breakdown each play but I find it funny how you can't see the raw skills this kid has. Yeah I said Nash lite Skillz and I stand by it. I never said he was just like Nash or anything crazy but when I see a kid hitting guys on play after play in his 1st game with strangers no less and the team is flowing better with him in there I give that kid credit.

I've got eyes and I know what I saw was a kid that understood the game and knew the right thing to do and when. Neither Nate nor TD ever showed me they understood those things. He has a lot more improvement to make but I love his overall talent.

that's just it, the stats prove the team in fact did NOT flow better with him in the game, he was a minus... so what are u laying these claims on? the guy shot 2 for 8, missed all 3 of his 3 pt attempts & was a -6 on the floor & yet here u are claiming he's got Steve Nash lite skills... i seriously dunno what ur watching if u can claim these things off Sergio's performance the other night, but this is getting nowhere... go ahead & think what u like... i'm hoping to see these awesome things out of Sergio's game in the coming weeks because i sure didn't see them last night.

TMS wrote:

WindsorPl wrote:

TMS wrote:Sergio's line:

5 pts. / 6 ast. / 3 reb. / 1 stl. / 2 to's on 2 of 8 shooting in 26 min.
0 for 3 from 3 pt. range
1 for 2 from FT line
-6 in +/-

y'all is sippin' some serious Kool Aid, that's all i'ma say.

Maybe. Maybe you are still bitter about the 2 picks and he is a constant reminder of the 2 picks
There will be a bigger sample size to compare the 2.

Sergio will always be a reminder of the picks & of Jordan Hill... that's why i'm rooting like crazy that he is a keeper cuz if not he's just another wasted asset in all this mess... i just don't like to rush to conclusions about any players i haven't seen play much... 1 game samples is not nearly enough to say this guy is better than Chris Duhon, & his career stats don't do too much to prove that either... i'm keeping a wide open mind on Sergio but not ready to get excited about him just yet.

TMS, with a half day of practice, Sergio looked as good if not better than Duhon has in any game this year (outside of maybe 2-3 where Duhon caught fire). Sergio ran the offense as well as I have seen Duhon do it and he brings the added bonus of not being afraid to drive to the hoop. There were at least 3 occassions where this kid setup a Knick with a great pass and the player missed the shot or else he would have had even more assists. This kid is simply better than Duhon. Whether he is a starter, i have no idea, but based on the game and his film in other games, he looks better than Duhon.