Pharzeone wrote:

loweyecue wrote:I wish we still had Larry here, I really do. But Phil Jackson couldn't win without three all-start guys either. So cut MDA some slack.
I think we all agreed he was brought in here to coach a good team to a championship contender. We don't have a good team, and you are right he is not cut out to develop young talent. If that is the issue you have that should be an issue with Walsh having picked him.

You know a good coach for this current team. JVG. He would coach them up defensively. They would suck on offense but I think you could get more out this team and a lot more wins. Strange that he wasn't really given consideration by Walsh. That imaginary piece of paper stunt was a tad too much.

I don't think anyone can handle the chucking of Harrington, Nate, and Hughes....and the trickle down chucking effect it causes for Chandler and Lee. Nor cam any coach handle the lack of defense of Lee.

I don't think any coach in the world fixes those problems.

Way back when I wanted BOTH Isiah and Larry fired for their insanity. BOTH. GONE.

In the end Dolan probably should have fired Isiah and given Larry a shot at things.

But the way Larry conducted himself in an attempt to get to that point was just unforgiveable. I would have fired BOTH on the SPOT and then deported Steve Mills to Antarctica.

What a mess that trio was.

Mills-Isiah-Larry

Good GOD.

Larry-Moe-Curly would have done better.

Cosmic wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

loweyecue wrote:I wish we still had Larry here, I really do. But Phil Jackson couldn't win without three all-start guys either. So cut MDA some slack.
I think we all agreed he was brought in here to coach a good team to a championship contender. We don't have a good team, and you are right he is not cut out to develop young talent. If that is the issue you have that should be an issue with Walsh having picked him.

You know a good coach for this current team. JVG. He would coach them up defensively. They would suck on offense but I think you could get more out this team and a lot more wins. Strange that he wasn't really given consideration by Walsh. That imaginary piece of paper stunt was a tad too much.

I don't think anyone can handle the chucking of Harrington, Nate, and Hughes....and the trickle down chucking effect it causes for Chandler and Lee. Nor cam any coach handle the lack of defense of Lee.

I don't think any coach in the world fixes those problems.

Way back when I wanted BOTH Isiah and Larry fired for their insanity. BOTH. GONE.

In the end Dolan probably should have fired Isiah and given Larry a shot at things.

But the way Larry conducted himself in an attempt to get to that point was just unforgiveable. I would have fired BOTH on the SPOT and then deported Steve Mills to Antarctica.

What a mess that trio was.

Mills-Isiah-Larry

Good GOD.

Larry-Moe-Curly would have done better.

In the end, Isiah and Dolan wanted Larry to come back but he went way overboard. I think he has acknowledged it as well. I threw out JVG because he is more of the anti-star guy which is just the opposite of MDA. And he seems to get the most of out his team in practices. But arkrud is probably right about Jimmy and JVG.

loweyecue wrote:I wish we still had Larry here, I really do. But Phil Jackson couldn't win without three all-start guys either. So cut MDA some slack.
I think we all agreed he was brought in here to coach a good team to a championship contender. We don't have a good team, and you are right he is not cut out to develop young talent. If that is the issue you have that should be an issue with Walsh having picked him.

i wish we would have jettisoned Marbury from this team instead of Larry... the second we made our bed with Marbury over Larry Brown, we sealed our fate for the next few years.

i agree that Jax couldn't win w/o 3 Allstars either, but the point i made stands... we need to bring in Allstar calibre players before we can look to win w/the current coach... i don't blame him for not winning w/this current team... i just make the point that he has never shown he can win unless he has elite talent on his team the way other coaches have been doing this season.

TMS wrote:

You can win with talent and a guy like Mike Brown coaching, you can win with MDA if you get talent.

no offense but the only thing MDA has proven is that he can win with 3 Allstar calibre players on his roster... what NBA coach wouldn't be able to win under the same circumstances? i'm not hating, just stating facts here... he has yet to show he can get a team to play above their collective talent the way other coaches like Adelman & Larry Brown are doing this season... whether he can or can't remains to be seen, but so far he hasn't done a good job w/this Knicks team in that regard, nor has he done much to develop the rookies like he said was his mission this season... there is plenty to be critical of

TMS, are you saying Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford don't qualify as top talent??

joec32033 wrote:

TMS wrote:

You can win with talent and a guy like Mike Brown coaching, you can win with MDA if you get talent.

no offense but the only thing MDA has proven is that he can win with 3 Allstar calibre players on his roster... what NBA coach wouldn't be able to win under the same circumstances? i'm not hating, just stating facts here... he has yet to show he can get a team to play above their collective talent the way other coaches like Adelman & Larry Brown are doing this season... whether he can or can't remains to be seen, but so far he hasn't done a good job w/this Knicks team in that regard, nor has he done much to develop the rookies like he said was his mission this season... there is plenty to be critical of

TMS, are you saying Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford don't qualify as top talent??

what are u talking about dude? are u following along w/the discussion? we're talking about the talent MDA's had to coach when his teams have won, not talking about the Atlanta Hawks here.

Hughes+Hill package for Tmac. Al for Tyrus.

crzymdups wrote:

kam77 wrote:We know Donnie likes to pull off the daily double. Latest speculation is that we end up with Thomas and McGrady.

Hughes+Hill+Jeffries package for Tmac. Al for Tyrus.

If Donnie pulls those trades off, he's a genius.

I've been saying this all along... The picks are secondary in these scenarios! We've tanked two years for a chance at signing two max free agents. The opportunity is here, pull the trigger!