BasketballJones wrote:And it's true that DJ and me don't watch the Knick games. On Knick game nights, we're out looking for hookers. Is that wrong?

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I also belive If hughs would have kept his mouth shut and handle his beef with MDA instead of running to the media and donnie walsh like a brat, he would be playing by now. It's probably a little personal by now ( nobody wants an employee going over his head) but I'm not entirely going to blame MDA,s judgment on a player who has been on 4 teams in the last 5 seasons, and bandish by his previous team all together.

what??? personal??? but MDA would never ever dream of making anything personal, didn't you get the memo?... he's the most impersonal person to ever exist on the face of the planet!

Right..and marburys half chinese

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:why should we ask this question during a really bad stretch..perfect time to get honest opions ya think.

I'm looking at the suns game now and there's no question in my mind that if mike had an all star pg on this same roster, we would have a similar record to the hawks if not better.

With that being said, donnie did entertain some PGs, maybe some of you forgot how short this team was, how can you really knock the hill pick or the TD pick, it's still an attemp to solve two dire positions. I think some of us were expecting a little more out of the rooks' but anyone can see that there play doesn't warrant consistant minutes. Both have very low IQ's and only derserve spot minutes.

I also belive If hughs would have kept his mouth shut and handle his beef with MDA instead of running to the media and donnie walsh like a brat, he would be playing by now. It's probably a little personal by now ( nobody wants an employee going over his head) but I'm not entirely going to blame MDA,s judgment on a player who has been on 4 teams in the last 5 seasons, and bandish by his previous team all together.

Mda n donnie are trying to get it right.

If I were coach and had an all star PG, I'd have this team better than the Hawks!

Then why does anything else matter if it's that plain jane simple.

I can only imagine David lee playing with d will, paul or nash..that's and extra 5pg making him a 25 and 12 player..

There's your franchise player

your logic or conception of a franchise player is flawed.

a franchise player puts those numbers up with out the aid of an all star pg or a system.

if Lee really were a franchise player, he would be putting those numbers up in spite of the talent around him.

and an all star pg isn't going to get lee an extra board every game. n fact, he'd probably get one less as there would be less to have were our offense more efficient.

as it stands we will just have to accept he's just your run of the mill 20/11/3.5/55% guy.

His impact would be much greater if he didn't have to play point/center..(Which up until now, I never heard of such a position) his #s are franchise type, but his impact is a star type player. Simple becuase he doesn't get take enough fts. When a player gets to the ft line with great regularity, his impact is enormus.

playa2 wrote:If we were playing to win this yr we could have take a talent like Iverson for one yr. I don't see the logic from these two.

The Marbury debacle proved that dantoni and walsh weren't on the same page back then. Walsh thought Marbury would play and danphoney had no intention of playing him, even though he played better than duhon in preseason.

You have the answer in your own post.
After finally being rid of one headcase (Marbury) I don't think they were keen on bringing in another malcontent.

sebstar wrote:Missing so badly on Jennings has made my faith in Walsh and D'Antoni waver a bit. I dont think anybody reasonably expected the Knicks to be any better than they are now.

Toronto, Golden State, Minnesota, Oklahoma City, Memphis and LAC all passed on him too.

Tyreke Evans and Curry are nasty. Jury is out on everyone else's picks, including Jordan Hill.

Panos wrote:

sebstar wrote:Missing so badly on Jennings has made my faith in Walsh and D'Antoni waver a bit. I dont think anybody reasonably expected the Knicks to be any better than they are now.

I'll be honest, I don't remember too many people talking up Jennings before the draft. He got picked about where he was expected to go or higher. While Hill was considered a #3-4 pick going into the draft. I dunno, you could say he should have known better then the guys making the mock polls, but to me it seems like a bit of 20/20 hindsight.
Its not like a single guy on here complained that we missed out on Jennings before the season started and he started lighting it up.

Why are you putting cats on a message board on the same level as executives who are paid millions of dollars to make, talent-related scouting decisions?

I dont care that Joe Knicks222 didnt hype Jennings up...thats Walsh's job. Jennings was over in Europe, how the hell were we supposed to know that duke could ball?

sebstar wrote:

Panos wrote:

sebstar wrote:Missing so badly on Jennings has made my faith in Walsh and D'Antoni waver a bit. I dont think anybody reasonably expected the Knicks to be any better than they are now.

I'll be honest, I don't remember too many people talking up Jennings before the draft. He got picked about where he was expected to go or higher. While Hill was considered a #3-4 pick going into the draft. I dunno, you could say he should have known better then the guys making the mock polls, but to me it seems like a bit of 20/20 hindsight.
Its not like a single guy on here complained that we missed out on Jennings before the season started and he started lighting it up.

Why are you putting cats on a message board on the same level as executives who are paid millions of dollars to make, talent-related scouting decisions?

I dont care that Joe Knicks222 didnt hype Jennings up...thats Walsh's job. Jennings was over in Europe, how the hell were we supposed to know that duke could ball?

I'll grant you most of that, just not going to roast him on it.