and then all i could think of was the line: "I wish you would have believed me"

Jack might be on Jacob's side now, maybe not so much now, but it appears that he will be eventually. but when Jack is confronted with the new Locke, will he believe him?

i like the ambiguity over who the real bad guys are. the writers do it so well. i'm not exactly convinced that jacob is the good guy.

eViL wrote:hasn't even crossed my mind. i think i've accepted that locke is dead. maybe that's an upcoming twist.

i like the ambiguity over who the real bad guys are. the writers do it so well. i'm not exactly convinced that jacob is the good guy.

neither am i...both are using people for their own interests.

but it may go much deeper than that. i think both jacob and smokey need to exist for balance. if smokey leaves the island, then the balance is disrupted and everything goes nuts.

Jacob reminds me of the old testament god, the one who would make his followers do things on faith, blindly. he made Abraham (could be someone else, i don't know) go to the mountain top to sacrifice his son, only to reveal it was just a test of faith. similarly, Jacob won't explicitly tell jack what he has to do. he's making jack a believer. he never told Richard Alpert what he had to do.

Locke on the other hand is very similar to the devil in the old testament (or more controversially, Jesus of the new testament). Locke promises answers. like the devil, he wants to free people from their blindness. eat the fruit of knowledge and open your eyes the devil says. follow me and i will tell you everything you want to know, says Locke. Locke, like Jesus, turns the other cheek, responding to violence peacefully when both Sawyer and Sayid attack him.

granted, there are very many holes in my analogy, i still think it's kinda interesting to examine. perhaps we are dealing with a trinity here.

it's possible both entities are bad as jacob let nadia die and struck a deal with dogan to save his kid but he must serve jacob's bidding.

jacob's influence also made sawyer continue to write that letter and seek vengeance his entire life. and prevented kate from getting caught stealing as a kid so she never was punished for it.

not to mention jacob's conniving ways to get hurley and jack to the lighthouse.

i'm not sure what to make of both. from the premier of season 5, the man in black seemed like he was tired of the "game" they both were playing and just wants out...while jacob is willing to keep playing.

eViL wrote:one thing i noticed is that there are very interesting biblical parallels between the characters Jacob and Locke and the Old Testament God and the Devil / Jesus.

Jacob reminds me of the old testament god, the one who would make his followers do things on faith, blindly. he made Abraham (could be someone else, i don't know) go to the mountain top to sacrifice his son, only to reveal it was just a test of faith. similarly, Jacob won't explicitly tell jack what he has to do. he's making jack a believer. he never told Richard Alpert what he had to do.

Locke on the other hand is very similar to the devil in the old testament (or more controversially, Jesus of the new testament). Locke promises answers. like the devil, he wants to free people from their blindness. eat the fruit of knowledge and open your eyes the devil says. follow me and i will tell you everything you want to know, says Locke. Locke, like Jesus, turns the other cheek, responding to violence peacefully when both Sawyer and Sayid attack him.

granted, there are very many holes in my analogy, i still think it's kinda interesting to examine. perhaps we are dealing with a trinity here.

this is from doc jensen's recap on ew.com

But hey, I don’t want to leave you on a bleak note, so let me offer this ray of hope. Remember earlier when I talked about how Saul saw Jesus, was blinded with scales, and then three days later the scales fell off and he could see clearly again? From that day forward, Saul became a new creation. He called himself Paul. Now, check this out. Remember before the season began, when ABC released a trio of images that had the cast of Lost replicating Leonardo Da Vinci’s painting of The Last Supper? According to tradition, Jesus’ final meal with his disciples occurred on Thursday evening. The next day, on ’'Good Friday,’' Christ was crucified. Jesus was taken off the cross at sundown (although it had been oddly dark all day) and placed into a tomb. From there, the Christian messiah, God’s only begotten son, is said to have descended into hell to give Satan the finger. Sundown. Son Down. Now, think back to the season premiere, ’'LA X.’' The castaways arrived back on the Island in the evening. Last night’s episode was the first time we’ve seen evening on the Island since then, and based on what we’ve seen, I think it’s safe to say that only one day has passed since Team Jughead was uploaded to Island 2007. Oh, and in case you weren’t keeping track, Lost’s last season is now one-third complete. Six hours of Lost 6.0 = 1 day on the Island. 18 hours on Lost 6.0 = 3 days. If we say that ’'LA X’' was Maundy Thursday, and if ’'Sundown’' was Good Friday, then will the show’s final hour be... Easter Sunday. And you know what happened on Easter? Resurrection. I’m telling you, folks, Alpha, the god of beginnings is coming back to balance the scales, but this time he’ll be wearing a whole new body, because he’s going to be a whole new creation: the resurrected John Locke.

dont know how i felt about the whole benjamin lynus episode - seems like he redeamed himself int he real life side by chosing to help alex over helping himself. so now what, he's a good guy that's mended his eveil ways? i liked him a whole lot better when he was being a badass, now he's just kinda pathetic if you ask me.

btw - the most intriguing thing to me this season so far has been how they keep tying the losties to each other in the flash sideways stuff. so curios how they're gonna pull that all together by the end of the season.

next week should be the most revealing episode of the season yet - finally get to know why richard hasnt agend in 300 f'in years - also, we'll finally undertand what the island is all about.

nyk4ever wrote:tonight's episode is definitely the best episode since season 2 and maybe the best episode ever.. just awesome.

'wanna know a secret jack...we're all in hell!" awesome episode and glad we got the ricardo storyline in place. the whole jacob/mib thing gonna get real interesting from here on out.