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tkf
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12/9/2009  6:49 PM
djsunyc wrote:lol @ all of you idiots.

lopez is averaging 19.2 pts and 9.1 rebs with 2.2 blks on a team with a young pg and no starting caliber 2/3/4.

will gallo ever average 19.2 ppg in a season? he has the system and the coach that encourages scoring...

but until he does, stop saying lopez has a ceiling...


and lopez team was 0-18 to start, so those empty stats don't impress. can't have it both ways.. on a good team with real options, does lopez average 19/9? who knows, but his team is dreadful and he is the best player on his team, so what does that say? not to say that his numbers are not impressive, but all of us have watched the guy, we know what he can do and what he is doing.. He doesn't come off as a high ceiling guy..

will gallo ever average 19.2 ppg in a season?

who cares? If gallo averages 18ppg and scores most of those points in the 4th quarter during winning time and the knicks are a good team because of it, I will be fine with that....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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12/9/2009  6:50 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I just hope gallo's back doesn't hinder is potential. lopez obviuosly doesnt have the perimeter players to make life easier for him, but he's got be consider top 7 or 8 as far as centers go.

I dont care to much about scoring pg's so rose and mayo dont really do it for me, especially since there defense is ultra suspect. If you give a well rounded pg like a walt frazier who was capable of doing everthing, well thats a different ball game.

why would it.. it is not hindering him at this point... heck gallo could retire from bad knees before his back is even an issue..

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12/9/2009  6:51 PM
djsunyc wrote:lol @ all of you idiots.

lopez is averaging 19.2 pts and 9.1 rebs with 2.2 blks on a team with a young pg and no starting caliber 2/3/4.

will gallo ever average 19.2 ppg in a season? he has the system and the coach that encourages scoring...

but until he does, stop saying lopez has a ceiling...

you're the only idiot. 19.2 and 9.1 rebounds? on a 2-19 team?

big men as good as you claim lopez is would lead their team to more than two ****ing wins.

where were you when z.bo was putting up 20/10? Is Z.bo the next coming of jesus christ according to you?

will gallo put up 19.2?? considering that he's putting up 13 right now without even 50 games under his belt, yea, i'd say he has a good chance of average 28.2.

what the hell, man? where is your hate coming from?

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12/9/2009  6:53 PM
orangeblobman wrote:You won't find a more complete player in that draft, you won't find a higher ceiling in that draft. The only, and I mean ONLY, thing that anyone can knock Gallo for is his back. And you can't even really 'knock' him for it as it is an injury (an injury he received because the NBA things it's alright to let 500 pound, decrepit, no-talent, no-future having, hamburger eating fools 'play basketball' in Summer League).

The only question mark above the kid is his back. Outside of that, he is the total package.

com·plete (km-plt)
adj. com·plet·er, com·plet·est
1. Having all necessary or normal parts, components, or steps; entire: a complete meal.

Now... Orange... I get that you're seeing things through the eyes of a SuperFan, but is defense part of your criteria for "Complete" or no?

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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12/9/2009  6:57 PM
TMS wrote:
djsunyc wrote:lol @ all of you idiots.

lopez is averaging 19.2 pts and 9.1 rebs with 2.2 blks on a team with a young pg and no starting caliber 2/3/4.

will gallo ever average 19.2 ppg in a season? he has the system and the coach that encourages scoring...

but until he does, stop saying lopez has a ceiling...

agreed, u can't call Lopez a limited upside prospect & then say Gallo's got unlimited potential in the same breathe... what 2nd year player is putting up stats like Lopez is right now?... if Jordan Hill were to put up stats like that in his 2nd season we'd be hyping him like there's no tomorrow... let's be fair in our projections for these kids... Lopez is an excellent looking young prospect, & so is Gallo... right now, it's pretty obvious that Lopez is more advanced in his development... who has more upside at this point is anyone's guess.

fair enough.... but by watching certain players play, I think you can get a sense of one's upside... but hey, that debate can go on and on..

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12/9/2009  7:02 PM
right b/c a 2nd year player is solely responsible for a team's record.

there is no correlation. the nets have no vets. if the nets had hughes + harrington, there's a good chance they are .500 at this point.

the knicks are competetive b/c of hughes + harrington + lee - gallo is the supplemental player to this squad.

i knew you guys would bring up record. that has nothing to do with this conversation.

the issue i disagree with is that brook lopez already has hit his ceiling in his 2nd year...where this supposed ceiling is pretty darn good. meanwhile gallo is this demi-god that has no boundaries...one of the greatest ever when that's based on nothing but hope and dreams.
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12/9/2009  7:13 PM
I don't care about Lopez scoring right now. He's still not a guy teams go into games fearing!!! I don't feel he's ever going to be that kind of guy. There are practically no centers and he's gonna be able to score due to that alone. I just don't see areas where his game can rise that much. With Gallo I see the skills and where he has advantages. His biggest enemy is Gallo himself. If and when he gets aggressive he's a force. I can only imagine how much better he'd be if he was always aggressive. I do however believe that Gallo will get there. I think it's a confidence factor. As he get's stronger and goes thru the league I think he'll realize that he's more than capable of doing whatever he wants to on this level.
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12/9/2009  7:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2009  7:15 PM
djsunyc wrote:right b/c a 2nd year player is solely responsible for a team's record.

there is no correlation. the nets have no vets. if the nets had hughes + harrington, there's a good chance they are .500 at this point.

the knicks are competetive b/c of hughes + harrington + lee - gallo is the supplemental player to this squad.

i knew you guys would bring up record. that has nothing to do with this conversation.

the issue i disagree with is that brook lopez already has hit his ceiling in his 2nd year...where this supposed ceiling is pretty darn good. meanwhile gallo is this demi-god that has no boundaries...one of the greatest ever when that's based on nothing but hope and dreams.

get the hell outta here bro, why are you bringing this ill-brain-thinking here? go root for the god damn nets then.

you're wrong wrong wrong wrong -ong -ong -ong WRONG

god damn record has everything to do with it. the way you're hyping brook, i would expect him to be worth at least 5 wins up to this point. lopez is a bum compared to gallo. you can 't see that? you go to eye doctor. i hook you up with referral.

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12/9/2009  7:19 PM
I love Gallo as much as anyone but I don't see any concrete evidence anyone can offer up to prove that he has a higher ceiling than Lopez does.

Even if you want to say that Lopez's team has a 2-18 record, fact is that he has the best +/- of any player getting significant minutes on that team.

http://www.82games.com/0910/0910NJN.HTM

Yeah he probably takes too many jump shots at this point (eFG% of 38%) but guess what, the guy is still shooting 49% from the field and he is an 83% free throw shooter. If that isn't impressive, how about the fact that he is 3rd in blocks right now in the NBA?

How can you say he won't improve? For people that say he never shot a good FG%, he shot 53% from the field in his rookie season!

Don't get me wrong, I love Gallo and I'm happy we have him, but when I was there at the draft, I was praying we took Lopez at the time. I didn't boo the pick and I've really warmed to Danilo in the last couple of years but part of me still wonders how nice a Lopez/Lee frontcourt would be right about now.

I don't see why people can't just be happy with Gallo and acknowledge that Lopez is a very good young talent for the Nets. I mean if you want to suggest that Gallo might have higher upside than Brook, fine. To say it is a fact though is foolish when you consider that the Knicks are 8 games under .500 right now and while they may not be as bad as the Nets, they still aren't a good team at this point (hopefully we change that).

"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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12/9/2009  7:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2009  7:21 PM
nixluva wrote:I don't care about Lopez scoring right now. He's still not a guy teams go into games fearing!!! I don't feel he's ever going to be that kind of guy. There are practically no centers and he's gonna be able to score due to that alone. I just don't see areas where his game can rise that much. With Gallo I see the skills and where he has advantages. His biggest enemy is Gallo himself. If and when he gets aggressive he's a force. I can only imagine how much better he'd be if he was always aggressive. I do however believe that Gallo will get there. I think it's a confidence factor. As he get's stronger and goes thru the league I think he'll realize that he's more than capable of doing whatever he wants to on this level.

that's b/c you don't watch the nets play. when you don't watch a player for more than 2 games a season, then you really don't know anything about that player.

i could give 2 sh ts about gallo or lopez...just saying it's pretty closed minded to limit one of them and not the other.
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12/9/2009  7:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2009  7:23 PM
listen, anyone that doesn't see the awesomeness of gallo, anyone that can't realize that lopez is a bum compared to him, any persons like that do not deserve the time of day, much less the time to respond to. INSANITY.

how can a rational person not see such an incredible talent when it's staring right at you? i honestly, i swear to mr. God, i can't understand that mindset.

he is the TRUTH in so many more ways than iverson or pierce was, or whoever they call the truth. whatever, man.

you guys make me sad, sad for you, not for me. Mr. Jesus Christ, give break to me.

you know, in my country, they say "don't throw diamonds in front of hogs

you guys wouldn't know a hall of fame talent if the ****in guy was in the hall of fame already.

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12/9/2009  7:26 PM
this thread is a joke and not worthy of this board. the knicks are on a little run so all of a sudden gallo is assured of the hall of fame and lopez is travis f'g knight? lol c'mon guys.

in related news, andrea bargnani's girlfriend, sister and mother are all reportedly expecting danilo gallinari's children.
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12/9/2009  7:27 PM
they're all gonna give bargs grandchildren...
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12/9/2009  7:28 PM
you shake a tree, angry animals fall out of it.
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12/9/2009  7:31 PM
orangeblobman wrote:you shake a tree, angry animals fall out of it.

son you should wear a helmet when you climb trees. you're taking too many blows to the head.
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12/9/2009  7:36 PM
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:you shake a tree, angry animals fall out of it.

son you should wear a helmet when you climb trees. you're taking too many blows to the head.

i can afford 3 lifetimes worth of severe brain damage, and i still know what i type about.

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12/9/2009  7:38 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:you shake a tree, angry animals fall out of it.

son you should wear a helmet when you climb trees. you're taking too many blows to the head.

i can afford 3 lifetimes worth of severe brain damage, and i still know what i type about.

well you got about 2.5x so far, i'd go a bit easy.
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12/9/2009  7:38 PM
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:you shake a tree, angry animals fall out of it.

son you should wear a helmet when you climb trees. you're taking too many blows to the head.

i can afford 3 lifetimes worth of severe brain damage, and i still know what i type about.

well you got about 2.5x so far, i'd go a bit easy.

those like me, they don't lose that easily.

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orangeblobman wrote:
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:you shake a tree, angry animals fall out of it.

son you should wear a helmet when you climb trees. you're taking too many blows to the head.

i can afford 3 lifetimes worth of severe brain damage, and i still know what i type about.

well you got about 2.5x so far, i'd go a bit easy.

those like me, they don't lose that easily.

you gotta give eddy some of that confidence. maybe a mind meld, or a buttock-to-buttock transfusion or something.
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12/9/2009  7:43 PM
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Marv wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:you shake a tree, angry animals fall out of it.

son you should wear a helmet when you climb trees. you're taking too many blows to the head.

i can afford 3 lifetimes worth of severe brain damage, and i still know what i type about.

well you got about 2.5x so far, i'd go a bit easy.

those like me, they don't lose that easily.

you gotta give eddy some of that confidence. maybe a mind meld, or a buttock-to-buttock transfusion or something.

hey, jokes aside, you get eddy to talk to me for 15 minutes, he average 16/9 this season and he all star next year.

i personally guarantee that.

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