kam77 wrote:
You're focused on this winning thing but KG has never had the type of teammates (when he was in Minny) that Duncan or Shaq had. The very first year he was given some very good teammates he won the finals. The only other time he had semi-good teammates he got to the WCF. No one player can do it alone but you need that one excellent player as a prerequisite to winning championships. Not Zach Randolph, Not Vince Carter, Not Tyson Chandler, Not Baron Davis etc...
Why don't you tell me what the criteria is then? Did Vince Carter have the kind of talent needed in Toronto or even New Jersey? He had Kidd, and Jefferson, who by your own words is not that good and the rest of NJ was a bunch of burgers. Dirk's surrounding talent was good but not that amazing after Nash left but he went to the finals and advanced past the first round many times. Duncan has Parker and Ginobli but the rest of that crew has never been incredible. And I find that Pierce and Allen are better than Parker and Ginobli.
The problem is you change the criteria when it goes against your argument. I provided some example of star players that got traded for expirings but then they were not franchise enough for you so you branded them name brand middle of the pack players. But then the guy you put as the #1 player only got to the second round once before he was the second best player on the team! (Garnett.)
We can argue talent all day, but smart money in the year 2000 puts Shaq or Duncan on their team, not Garnett, I can't even believe you want to argue that.
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