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6/5/2009  11:12 AM
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Sam has rings, Kidd doesn't but he did get his team to the finals. But I already said Rubio but would be very happy with Curry too.

Sam had a couple guys named Olajuwon & KG... lol.

Yeah, they were great players. But Curry will have his great player too. In 2010, hopefully.

JKidd had his players Kmart, Jefferson, KVH made everyone better great talented player. His defense was impressive. Its 1a, 1b between Rubio and Curry with me. It doesn't matter to me but highly unlikely they drop to 8th spot for the Knicks.
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6/6/2009  2:07 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Vmart:

Sam has rings, Kidd doesn't but he did get his team to the finals. But I already said Rubio but would be very happy with Curry too.

Sam had a couple guys named Olajuwon & KG... lol.

Yeah, they were great players. But Curry will have his great player too. In 2010, hopefully.

JKidd had his players Kmart, Jefferson, KVH made everyone better great talented player. His defense was impressive. Its 1a, 1b between Rubio and Curry with me. It doesn't matter to me but highly unlikely they drop to 8th spot for the Knicks.

Kidd hasn't had a truly great player to play with until he got to the Mavs in his 2nd stint, & now he's past his prime... KMart, RJ & KVH got so many easy baskets because of Kidd it wasn't even funny.

if the Knicks are assured of getting Lebron, then i'd say it's a no brainer to draft Curry instead of Derozan or Rubio, but they're not... drafting based on who may come here on a slim chance in another year is a bad way to manage your team IMO... once u have the star player in hand, then you start worrying about how to build the team around him, not the other way around.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-06-2009 11:08 AM]
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6/6/2009  2:23 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Vmart:

Sam has rings, Kidd doesn't but he did get his team to the finals. But I already said Rubio but would be very happy with Curry too.

Sam had a couple guys named Olajuwon & KG... lol.

Yeah, they were great players. But Curry will have his great player too. In 2010, hopefully.

JKidd had his players Kmart, Jefferson, KVH made everyone better great talented player. His defense was impressive. Its 1a, 1b between Rubio and Curry with me. It doesn't matter to me but highly unlikely they drop to 8th spot for the Knicks.

Kidd hasn't had a truly great player to play with until he got to the Mavs in his 2nd stint, & now he's past his prime... KMart, RJ & KVH got so many easy baskets because of Kidd it wasn't even funny.

if the Knicks are assured of getting Lebron, then i'd say it's a no brainer to draft Curry instead of Derozan or Rubio, but they're not... drafting based on who may come here on a slim chance in another year is a bad way to manage your team IMO... once u have the star player in hand, then you start worrying about how to build the team around him, not the other way around.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-06-2009 11:08 AM]

I already said that I wanted Rubio if the KNicks could get him because he can make others better with his passing. As for Curry I wouldn't mind him either if he were to fall to the Knicks which I highly doubt. I don't think the Knicks can go wrong with either on of those two.
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6/6/2009  2:36 PM
My hope is Curry from a landslide--the more I watch Curry the more I realize it's very very good choice. He was one of my favorite guys and I came off of him a bit because of struggles at what I believed were bigger faster athletes on the Purdue's etc.. and the fact that he kind of struggled this year with TO's and 3 point shooting with the longer line[which was kind of where I thought he was very strong in his legs] He was my top 3 preseason and I really think that this offseason--he has proven he really is top 3. He;s much more explosive than I thought he was --hes 2 inches taller than I thought he was and for the first and now I am absolutely convinced he can not only play PG but he will be tough to handle because of his shooting threat.

He might not be a guy with flair like Rubio--but boy if you consider he really is 6-3 and still maybe growing--would come into the NBA as one of it's best shooters and the fact that players will have to be honest with him[you really can give Rubio the shot--I dont think Rubio has a chance in hll to shoot more than 40-42% for a long time and maybe 25-30% from 3 while I do think Curry has a chance to shoot 45-48% and 40-43% from 3 and 90% from the FT line. While Curry cant make the passes Rubio can--I think he might make smarter plays as in pass line a_B instead of Rubio's around the back off the top of the backboard Henry Steele passes

Im starting to think that we should try to move up in the draft for CURRY NOT RUBIO.
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6/6/2009  2:48 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

My hope is Curry from a landslide--the more I watch Curry the more I realize it's very very good choice. He was one of my favorite guys and I came off of him a bit because of struggles at what I believed were bigger faster athletes on the Purdue's etc.. and the fact that he kind of struggled this year with TO's and 3 point shooting with the longer line[which was kind of where I thought he was very strong in his legs] He was my top 3 preseason and I really think that this offseason--he has proven he really is top 3. He;s much more explosive than I thought he was --hes 2 inches taller than I thought he was and for the first and now I am absolutely convinced he can not only play PG but he will be tough to handle because of his shooting threat.

He might not be a guy with flair like Rubio--but boy if you consider he really is 6-3 and still maybe growing--would come into the NBA as one of it's best shooters and the fact that players will have to be honest with him[you really can give Rubio the shot--I dont think Rubio has a chance in hll to shoot more than 40-42% for a long time and maybe 25-30% from 3 while I do think Curry has a chance to shoot 45-48% and 40-43% from 3 and 90% from the FT line. While Curry cant make the passes Rubio can--I think he might make smarter plays as in pass line a_B instead of Rubio's around the back off the top of the backboard Henry Steele passes

Im starting to think that we should try to move up in the draft for CURRY NOT RUBIO.

It crossed my mind the other day. If Lebron does decide to come here, what the hell are teams going to do defensively when we have two insane shooters to go to in Gallo and Curry? Not to mention Chandler... I think I'm sold on Curry, but wouldn't be destroyed if we got Flynn or one of the other two or three prospects being mentioned.

I'm thinking we might have to use the Mobley contract to move up. We are not trading Chandler and that is our only other asset right now. Perhaps we can do a handshake sign and trade with Nate involved.
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6/6/2009  2:48 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

My hope is Curry from a landslide--the more I watch Curry the more I realize it's very very good choice. He was one of my favorite guys and I came off of him a bit because of struggles at what I believed were bigger faster athletes on the Purdue's etc.. and the fact that he kind of struggled this year with TO's and 3 point shooting with the longer line[which was kind of where I thought he was very strong in his legs] He was my top 3 preseason and I really think that this offseason--he has proven he really is top 3. He;s much more explosive than I thought he was --hes 2 inches taller than I thought he was and for the first and now I am absolutely convinced he can not only play PG but he will be tough to handle because of his shooting threat.

He might not be a guy with flair like Rubio--but boy if you consider he really is 6-3 and still maybe growing--would come into the NBA as one of it's best shooters and the fact that players will have to be honest with him[you really can give Rubio the shot--I dont think Rubio has a chance in hll to shoot more than 40-42% for a long time and maybe 25-30% from 3 while I do think Curry has a chance to shoot 45-48% and 40-43% from 3 and 90% from the FT line. While Curry cant make the passes Rubio can--I think he might make smarter plays as in pass line a_B instead of Rubio's around the back off the top of the backboard Henry Steele passes

Im starting to think that we should try to move up in the draft for CURRY NOT RUBIO.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=858656&start=0
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6/6/2009  3:02 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BRIGGS:

My hope is Curry from a landslide--the more I watch Curry the more I realize it's very very good choice. He was one of my favorite guys and I came off of him a bit because of struggles at what I believed were bigger faster athletes on the Purdue's etc.. and the fact that he kind of struggled this year with TO's and 3 point shooting with the longer line[which was kind of where I thought he was very strong in his legs] He was my top 3 preseason and I really think that this offseason--he has proven he really is top 3. He;s much more explosive than I thought he was --hes 2 inches taller than I thought he was and for the first and now I am absolutely convinced he can not only play PG but he will be tough to handle because of his shooting threat.

He might not be a guy with flair like Rubio--but boy if you consider he really is 6-3 and still maybe growing--would come into the NBA as one of it's best shooters and the fact that players will have to be honest with him[you really can give Rubio the shot--I dont think Rubio has a chance in hll to shoot more than 40-42% for a long time and maybe 25-30% from 3 while I do think Curry has a chance to shoot 45-48% and 40-43% from 3 and 90% from the FT line. While Curry cant make the passes Rubio can--I think he might make smarter plays as in pass line a_B instead of Rubio's around the back off the top of the backboard Henry Steele passes

Im starting to think that we should try to move up in the draft for CURRY NOT RUBIO.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=858656&start=0

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6/6/2009  3:05 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Vmart:

Sam has rings, Kidd doesn't but he did get his team to the finals. But I already said Rubio but would be very happy with Curry too.

Sam had a couple guys named Olajuwon & KG... lol.

Yeah, they were great players. But Curry will have his great player too. In 2010, hopefully.

JKidd had his players Kmart, Jefferson, KVH made everyone better great talented player. His defense was impressive. Its 1a, 1b between Rubio and Curry with me. It doesn't matter to me but highly unlikely they drop to 8th spot for the Knicks.

Kidd hasn't had a truly great player to play with until he got to the Mavs in his 2nd stint, & now he's past his prime... KMart, RJ & KVH got so many easy baskets because of Kidd it wasn't even funny.

if the Knicks are assured of getting Lebron, then i'd say it's a no brainer to draft Curry instead of Derozan or Rubio, but they're not... drafting based on who may come here on a slim chance in another year is a bad way to manage your team IMO... once u have the star player in hand, then you start worrying about how to build the team around him, not the other way around.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-06-2009 11:08 AM]

I already said that I wanted Rubio if the KNicks could get him because he can make others better with his passing. As for Curry I wouldn't mind him either if he were to fall to the Knicks which I highly doubt. I don't think the Knicks can go wrong with either on of those two.

i don't think u can really go wrong on either of them too if you're drafting for a PG exclusively, but i hope the Knicks aren't closed off to the idea of drafting the guy w/the most upside period regardless of the position he plays... i don't wanna draft on what makes sense or what our team's need is only... we have so many needs on this team, let's draft ourselves a star & then worry about the rest later.
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6/6/2009  4:36 PM
Jees Im fearful now that the Knicks somehow are going to get this kid Rubio. If there was one player I didnt want in the top 8 or so its HIM! I fear a player who will shoot under 40% and have problems adapting. I can probably name 15 players I would prefer. I think the fact that Curry really is 6-3 185 and not 6-1 165 should put him number 1 on our board. I dont see the clun changing with Rubio very much anytime soon--Curry could HELP change things from day 1. MAYBE Rubio's long term prospects can be seen as superior but jes after 10 years Im not betting on a guy who is shooting under 40% in a foreign league with a LOT of TOs baby! Whose form on his jumpshot look like mine-and that is NOt good unless we were talking baseball.
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6/6/2009  5:17 PM
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Jees Im fearful now that the Knicks somehow are going to get this kid Rubio. If there was one player I didnt want in the top 8 or so its HIM! I fear a player who will shoot under 40% and have problems adapting. I can probably name 15 players I would prefer. I think the fact that Curry really is 6-3 185 and not 6-1 165 should put him number 1 on our board. I dont see the clun changing with Rubio very much anytime soon--Curry could HELP change things from day 1. MAYBE Rubio's long term prospects can be seen as superior but jes after 10 years Im not betting on a guy who is shooting under 40% in a foreign league with a LOT of TOs baby! Whose form on his jumpshot look like mine-and that is NOt good unless we were talking baseball.


Briggs your wrong on Rubio he has pretty good form on his jumper. Its just a matter of time before his jumper becomes as automatic as Curry's. you have to rememeber Curry has a three years on Rubio. One thing that Euros do well is shooting perimeter jumpers. Rubio is a better long term prospect IMO. But Curry has upside too. Thats why I hope the Knicks do their homework and make the right choice. But like you said if they are targeting these two and they aren't going to be available to them then they have to make the moves to get what they want. i don't think the Knicks are in a position to come out of this draft without what they want.
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6/7/2009  1:35 PM
Think about this. When PHX got Nash it wasn't clear he was gonna be an MVP level player based on what he had been up to that point. What MDA knew was that a player with Nash's skills would be perfect in his system once he taught him to see the game MDA's way. I think Curry could have great success under the guidance of MDA. He has the tools to do much of what Nash does. Curry had almost identical numbers to Nash in college. I think he's just as smart and can make the pass almost as well. He certainly can shoot it as well. Rubio may end up being a better passer by a decent margin, but I doubt he'll ever be a better shooter or leader than Curry. Curry is a proven leader right now!!!
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6/7/2009  1:52 PM
When this thread started, I was thinking I'd prefer Rubio. But now I'm leaning towards Curry. It's hard to evaluate Rubio fairly because he's so young.
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