Posted by TMS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by arkrud:

I hate to bring it up again but unfortunately bbal in not only about the game but more so about business.
And DLee will be a big money maker for Dolan regardless of his game.
So all you theories about what good for the team are worth nothing.
They will return 50 mils over 5 years easily only on tickets, endorsements, and commercials with Lee.
Add to it percentages from apparel and collectibles and you have profit right away.
And guy can also play and you can rely on him as a person... This is some bonus after Stephs, eddys, jeroms, Zacks, and upended list of others.
So like him or dislike him get used to have Lee around for a long while.
Sorry gs... If you hate him you need BIG SEND CLOSK.


[Edited by - arkrud on 05-05-2009 3:16 PM]

[Edited by - arkrud on 05-05-2009 3:17 PM]

I'm sorry I must've miss those Nike commercials starting David Lee. Good for business? The Knicks were selling out games before Lee and will sell out games after Lee. Lee has no impact on such things. Lee was close to getting traded twice under Walsh so far. They don't view his "commercial" impact the same way you do and truth be told not many others do as well. Donnie on Lee and Nate "some players are good at certain numbers and not good at others" At $6 million a year Lee is good and $8-$10 million not good.

The important year is 2010. All the rest nobody cares.
And yes - if Lee will be out some white boys and girls will not buy tickets.
You need to assotiate yourself with the player... and it is nothing to do with race.
Fans want to see some dude which looks alike.
But on other hand it will be more hockey fans in NYC. So its good eather way.

Are you serious? You make a thread that is entirely based on race then says it has nothing to do with race? If your reason for keeping Lee is to market to white fans then you have a poor view of Knick fans and their history.

if the Knicks were trying to market to white fans they never would have traded Balkman away.

for the love of god arkrud don't you realize that every white fan in nyc fantasizes being mason or oakley or ewing out there?!?!?!?

Posted by Marv:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by arkrud:

I hate to bring it up again but unfortunately bbal in not only about the game but more so about business.
And DLee will be a big money maker for Dolan regardless of his game.
So all you theories about what good for the team are worth nothing.
They will return 50 mils over 5 years easily only on tickets, endorsements, and commercials with Lee.
Add to it percentages from apparel and collectibles and you have profit right away.
And guy can also play and you can rely on him as a person... This is some bonus after Stephs, eddys, jeroms, Zacks, and upended list of others.
So like him or dislike him get used to have Lee around for a long while.
Sorry gs... If you hate him you need BIG SEND CLOSK.


[Edited by - arkrud on 05-05-2009 3:16 PM]

[Edited by - arkrud on 05-05-2009 3:17 PM]

I'm sorry I must've miss those Nike commercials starting David Lee. Good for business? The Knicks were selling out games before Lee and will sell out games after Lee. Lee has no impact on such things. Lee was close to getting traded twice under Walsh so far. They don't view his "commercial" impact the same way you do and truth be told not many others do as well. Donnie on Lee and Nate "some players are good at certain numbers and not good at others" At $6 million a year Lee is good and $8-$10 million not good.

The important year is 2010. All the rest nobody cares.
And yes - if Lee will be out some white boys and girls will not buy tickets.
You need to assotiate yourself with the player... and it is nothing to do with race.
Fans want to see some dude which looks alike.
But on other hand it will be more hockey fans in NYC. So its good eather way.

Are you serious? You make a thread that is entirely based on race then says it has nothing to do with race? If your reason for keeping Lee is to market to white fans then you have a poor view of Knick fans and their history.

if the Knicks were trying to market to white fans they never would have traded Balkman away.

for the love of god arkrud don't you realize that every white fan in nyc fantasizes being mason or oakley or ewing out there?!?!?!?

Yep... Absolutely... Thats waht they do.

Posted by GKFv2:

Yo Cos, you got an email or AIM or anything I can contact you at?

Posted by King1:

You gripe about Lee getting his shot blocked. He is top oin the league every year in field goal percentage. He has a lower turnover rate than most guys on the team. I cant wait for everyone killing MDA and Walsh for keeping Lee at a fair market price

Posted by Pharzeone:

Does anyone belive that Lee's post defense and shotblocking will improve going further? I think that is the real question, what is his upside or are you ok with what you have now and think he should be paid well for what he is doing now?

Posted by franco12:

Lee is a sixth man who's gotten starter minutes. Don't pay him like a starter. $6-8mm tops. Keeps cap flexibility, tradeable if we need to, good value for his production.

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by franco12:

Lee is a sixth man who's gotten starter minutes. Don't pay him like a starter. $6-8mm tops. Keeps cap flexibility, tradeable if we need to, good value for his production.

Well that's just it. We have a phenomenal bench if we want it here. Lee, Chandler, Nate, Duhon, Harrington. Kick ass 6-10 man list.

Yet.......they've been either starting or putting in major minutes. The result? 32 wins.

The problem? None of these guys are coming cheap for the supposed 2010+ team of greatness.

The answer? S&T's or let them walk.

At least for a change this franchise has flexibility and REAL assets to use.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Solace:

It's a good thing there were 21 reasons. With only 20 reasons, doubt may have remained.

HA! It's a good thing Walsh requires at least 22 reasons

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by GKFv2:

Yo Cos, you got an email or AIM or anything I can contact you at?

newyorker200@comcast.net

...and just cause I have stalkers, and there's too many funny people reading, when you email me include some sort of phrase and then post it here in this thread so I know it's you. (sad, but, yeah...)

Posted by King1:

You gripe about Lee getting his shot blocked. He is top oin the league every year in field goal percentage. He has a lower turnover rate than most guys on the team. I cant wait for everyone killing MDA and Walsh for keeping Lee at a fair market price

Griping? Not really. Just being overly critical of the play of a player we're potentially looking to lock up long term at big bucks. When you are seeking to do as much you don't just focus on what he can do but you HEAVILY FOCUS ON WHAT HE CAN NOT DO. That is how you determine whether or not he is worth the investment.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Does anyone belive that Lee's post defense and shotblocking will improve going further? I think that is the real question, what is his upside or are you ok with what you have now and think he should be paid well for what he is doing now?

It will worsen. Lee will, and has already shown, that he is rapidly losing his athletic abilities. As those go so do any semblance of defensive abilities. Offensively he will get smarter and he will start being more productive with a mid range game. I don't doubt that.

Yet the overall package is NOT of starter quality on a deep playoff team unless....we somehow... land Dwight Howard. Yet, as I have said before Samaki Walker was a stud starting PF on a championship team. How did that happen? Well, Shaq and Kobe to start. Lee is in that kind of company. It is what it is....