Griffo = Swift write it down

just bloggin' - he'll be solid, but in no way is he going to be a franchise player

Boozer has a hard enough time being that player and he has superior skills

Posted by TMS:

First point: Briggs is right about the number one pick.

took him a while to finally come around on Griffin but he finally did it... some of us have been singing Griffin's praises a lot longer than he has... let's not make it out to be like he somehow discovered the guy... he's a consensus #1 pick, anyone who watched any of the Sooners games this year at all could have told u that easily.

Blake Griffin has been a top pick all year--I don't think anyone c an take credit for anything--the guy came into the season 1 and left the season 1

This is how I had the draft last year with who I thought was coming out--not bad.

04-16-2008 6:29 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote 1.Miami--Michael Beasley F
2 Seattle-- Derrick Rose G
3 Minnesota---Brook Lopez C
4 Memphis--OJ Mayo
5 LA Clippers--Jerryd Bayless G
6 NY Knicks--Anthony Randolph F
7 Milwaukee--Russell Westbrook G
8 Charlotte--Javale Mcgee C
9 Chicago--Kevin Love C/PF
10 New Jersey--Eric Gordon--G
11 Indiana--Deandre Jordan C
12 Sacremento--DJ Augustin G
13 Portland--Chase Budinger F
14 GS-- Mareese Speights --PF
15 Phoenix --Ty Lawson G
16 Toronto --Hasheem Thabeet C
17 Phildelphia--Darrell Arthur PF
18 Washington--Roy Hibbert C
19 Cleveland--JR Giddens G
20 Denver-- Donte Green F
21 New Jersey Tyler Hansborough F
22 Orlando--Chris Douglas Roberts G
23 Seattle Robin Lopez F/C
24 Utah--Mario Chalmers G
25 Houston--Jason Thompson F
26 SA Earl Clark F
27 New Orleans Brandan Rush G
28 Memphis Joey Dorsey
29 Detroit Darren Collison G
30 Boston--Ryan Andersen F

nah man, it's my bad... i don't mean to get nitpicky but i don't wanna start hearing BRIGGS talking about how he was all over Griffin's jock next year if he comes out & has a great season... the guy i'll give him credit for finding in this draft if he turns out to be great is BJ Mullens & Tyreke Evans... Stephen Curry was his guy for a long while but i haven't heard him talking about him at all of late.

It's cool man, I can certainly understand that. I've seen a lot of the Mullens/Evans posts on this board. I can see Mullens as an interesting late first round gamble, but he's going to be a project in my view. He's probably better served going back to school. Could be the Deandre Jordan of this draft.

On Tyreke Evans I have mixed feelings. He's certainly a good athlete and has great ballhandling ability. That said he takes a lot of bad shots and I don't see a real point guard mentality in his game. I wouldn't be angry if the Knicks took him at 8-10, but I see him as a potential good scoring shooting guard who can play some point, not the mini-Magic Johnson I've read some here make him out to be. He's certainly not someone i'd take over Rubio.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by NYKPHINS:

took him a while to finally come around on Griffin but he finally did it... some of us have been singing Griffin's praises a lot longer than he has... let's not make it out to be like he somehow discovered the guy... he's a consensus #1 pick, anyone who watched any of the Sooners games this year at all could have told u that easily.


Wasn't suggesting he discovered the guy, and obviously anyone who regularly follows college basketball or even watches sportscenter would likely know he is the number one guy. I was simply referring within the context of this thread to the people arguing Rubio over Griffin. Probably should have been clearer on that point, so my apologies.

nah man, it's my bad... i don't mean to get nitpicky but i don't wanna start hearing BRIGGS talking about how he was all over Griffin's jock next year if he comes out & has a great season... the guy i'll give him credit for finding in this draft if he turns out to be great is BJ Mullens & Tyreke Evans... Stephen Curry was his guy for a long while but i haven't heard him talking about him at all of late.

drafting has nothing to do with finding guys for the most part--it has to do with placing the talent in the right spot

I didnt find Brook Lopez but I kept him in a very high spot all year --- guys like randolph mcgee and westbrook became--well to me obviously higher talented kids who should be picked very high so I moved them up. I put Tyreke Evans at 2 and Derozan at 3 AFTER the full season--the three guys I am high on Mullens Evans and Derozan and Im sure you know that I killed each one at the start of the season. I need to see results with talent [unless the talent with the size is so obvious that it hits you in the face ie. Bynum]. The game Mullens had at Mich State--and we know now that Mich State was a very good team --that is where I saw his potential and actual performance collide--I saw what he CAN do in game situations and while he DID not follow through like Derozan[who came on in only the last month] and Evans among a few others I wont forget how he played a few times that I watched him play very well against other times that he didnt. Some people think that Thabeet is a train wreck I personally do not--I think he will end up surprising people.

like i said the draft is in the beauty of the eye of the beholder I would take Tyrere Evans or Derozan over Rubio--that is my personal eye 1-2-3

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Briggs how did you get it so wrong on Thompson and Ryan Anderson? Really screwed the pooch on that one.

How soon did you post that before the draft?

that was two and a half months before. obviously a couple of guys in and out but that was my basic sentiment. I wouldve had to choose between Lopez and Randolph and I wouldve traded Lee to anyone to make it happen[i mean get both]. If we did wed be sitting pretty darn pretty.

congratulations to you both

same thing came across my mind, Franco

-->if he were in college here folks would be salivating over him.


Why do you say this? What team would he start for? Do you think he could start over a Ty Lawson right now at NC? Have you seen him start for anyone and play a full game?

Posted by BRIGGS:

-->if he were in college here folks would be salivating over him.


Why do you say this? What team would he start for? Do you think he could start over a Ty Lawson right now at NC? Have you seen him start for anyone and play a full game?

he's definitely better than ty lawson....okay definitely is strong, but i think it's pretty clear he is, and has more potential.

and yes, as i just posted, i have seen him play full games for spain.

and again...did you watch the olympic games, not just the one against the u.s. (or even just that)?



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