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2/22/2009  5:09 PM
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How do I reason it--how many minutes did Gallinari play today? If we are going to take time from someone it shouldve been Q Rich. Taking minutes from Chandler and Gallinari is dumb. Did Gallinari play with TT here when healthy--yes.

Tough matchups tonight. Marion, Joey Graham. That's why Q.



He's got 10 minutes off the bench. Who cares who he is playing---you think the 6-7/6-8 athletic F is leaving the NBA anytime soon? He played OK last game--if this is the guy they want to play in the future--let him have his 10 minutes. He needs a lot of work--best way for him is on the job experience. If he wasnt hurt he shouldve played 10-15 games in the D league to get accustomed to the speed and athleticism of the game with extended minutes.

it's one game man, and we had 2 guys that needed a look. If it continues, then we have something to complain about.

He gave Hughes way to much of a look. If he wanted to give him a look then give him a a few minutes. Hughes was shooting the Knicks out of the game like he was John Starks in the 7th game.
He left him in the game knowing this chump was rusty been out of the game for a month, he gave him run not a look. I don't agree with this type of coaching, this is not justifiable. I don't care if he was a new player you don't give a player a look or run until they are ready.
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2/22/2009  5:21 PM
ideally the guy who'd be effected by Hughes' presence immediately is Q but if MDA had told Q he wasn't playing today instead of Gallo it would have possibly created problems in the lockerroom... the head coach has to be able to know how to handle the egos on his team just as he does the rotation of his players... it's not like Gallo has yet solidified his position into the rotation yet, he's still a work in progress... things will work themselves out in due time... patience for God's sakes.
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2/22/2009  5:29 PM
If he wanted to give him a look then give him a a few minutes. Hughes was shooting the Knicks out of the game like he was John Starks in the 7th game

You should only wish we will play in a game that late in the post season this year or in the near future. This was a regular season game. Plus, I don't understand WHY anyone would think that Larry Hughes who is on his SIXTH team in his NBA career would come to NY and change his stripes. Call him a "good defender" or whatever you wish, but unfortunately, we are a team that prides itself on OFFENSE. Its a dubious assumption to even think that Hughes could help this team. He was on a team in Chi with a rook running the point (and running it very well) that likely could use a seasoned vet such as Larry Hughes yet they said to him GTFO until we trade you. Usually, that's noy a good sign for the receiving team (Knicks). Love how the Knicks take back other peoples' cancers (Hughes, Harrington, etc).

Since we are an OFFENISIVE minded team, then we need some offense because there is nary a D in this team and that offense should be coming from the tall Italian kid we drafted with the #6 overall pick several months ago. It is utter BS that he did not play today and I don't want someone to tell me its because " we have to see what the new guys can contribute."

This is more Gallo's team than any of the new guys here...more than Al No-Sharrington's, Hughes, Wilcox and whomever. More importantly, no of those scrubs have a future here so it is way more important to get Gallo minutes than any of the above. EVEN IF IT MEANS LOSING.

I know Walsh used his Yoda-like powers saying "we can rebuild/shed salary and be competitive" at the same time, which is a VERY DIFFICULT thing to do because you usually get somewhat "scrubbish" packages in return or in our case, we gave up useless junk for improved junk. However, Gallo needs to play...more than Walsh or Dantoni feel the need to try and win now while rebuiling/retooling or whatever. I can LIVE with Gallinari chucking all day long, playing no D or making dumb mistakes because all of the expensive vet junk that we acquired is doing the same thing.

I don't want to go in to next year and have Gallinari be the next Chandler...still making rookie mistakes all throughout an entire second year. We all know that Wilson should have played more last year, whether he was ready or not. If Gallo is healthy, he should be playing...his development and importance to this team is on par with the cap space we have in 2010. We will win then even if it means sacrificing now.

Plus, the other players taken before him and some after are showing why they were lotto picks. Walsh can justify trading pretty talented players with long term contracts, but its going to be more difficult to justify why he took Gallinari over the other players that could CONTRIBUTE/HELP YOU NOW while shedding payroll.
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2/22/2009  5:29 PM
Posted by Vmart:
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How do I reason it--how many minutes did Gallinari play today? If we are going to take time from someone it shouldve been Q Rich. Taking minutes from Chandler and Gallinari is dumb. Did Gallinari play with TT here when healthy--yes.

Tough matchups tonight. Marion, Joey Graham. That's why Q.



He's got 10 minutes off the bench. Who cares who he is playing---you think the 6-7/6-8 athletic F is leaving the NBA anytime soon? He played OK last game--if this is the guy they want to play in the future--let him have his 10 minutes. He needs a lot of work--best way for him is on the job experience. If he wasnt hurt he shouldve played 10-15 games in the D league to get accustomed to the speed and athleticism of the game with extended minutes.

it's one game man, and we had 2 guys that needed a look. If it continues, then we have something to complain about.

He gave Hughes way to much of a look. If he wanted to give him a look then give him a a few minutes. Hughes was shooting the Knicks out of the game like he was John Starks in the 7th game.
He left him in the game knowing this chump was rusty been out of the game for a month, he gave him run not a look. I don't agree with this type of coaching, this is not justifiable. I don't care if he was a new player you don't give a player a look or run until they are ready.

no disagreement there. At the same time, a coach does need to give a player some slack to get it going; 2 minutes here, 5 minutes there ain't gonna cut it either. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

What I would have liked to see is Larry get those same minutes and if his shot is not falling to drive more or create for teammates.
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2/22/2009  5:34 PM
Oh and BRIGGS, speaking of the lottery, I have followed the W's alot of late and I think that Anthony Randolph is going to be a very solid player if not a star. He is very raw and far from a finished product but you can see what the kid can do ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.
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2/22/2009  5:41 PM
Posted by Queeniepop:
I don't understand WHY anyone would think that Larry Hughes who is on his SIXTH team in his NBA career would come to NY and change his stripes. Call him a "good defender" or whatever you wish, but unfortunately, we are a team that prides itself on OFFENSE. Its a dubious assumption to even think that Hughes could help this team. He was on a team in Chi with a rook running the point (and running it very well) that likely could use a seasoned vet such as Larry Hughes yet they said to him GTFO until we trade you. Usually, that's noy a good sign for the receiving team (Knicks). Love how the Knicks take back other peoples' cancers (Hughes, Harrington, etc).

the Bulls told him he wouldn't get much playing time because Kirk Hinrich had returned from injury... as a veteran he wasn't happy about it & wanted to be traded to a team where he could get some playing time... i have read nothing about him being a cancer in that lockerroom... if u have please provide a source cuz i'm interested in reading about it.
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2/22/2009  5:59 PM
as for Hughes' shooting today, the guy's coming off 17 DNP's, is it any wonder why he may have been rusty on his shot? for the season he's averaging almost 40% from beyond 3 pt. range, which tells me he can shoot the ball from deep... his shot selection needs work but that's what he's been most of his career.

he's also an excellent FT shooter so MDA should try to work him on penetration so he can get to the line more & take advantage of that... the problem there is that both Nate & Duhon are playing the penetrate into the lane role on this team so Hughes will most likely be left roaming on the perimeter when one of those 2 guys are in the game... MDA's gonna have to figure things out in the coming days & that will take more than 1 game to do it.
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2/22/2009  6:02 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9241484/Why-so-little-wheeling-and-dealing?
Larry Hughes brings his scowls, complaints, poisonous locker room presence, and shot-hungry game to New York. Like every other coach in the league, Mike D'Antoni believes he's the only one who can transform a sour apple into a sweet one.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/124742-if-the-suns-can-fire-terry-porter-why-cant-the-bulls-fire-del-negro
Larry Hughes has taken full advantage of del Negro's lack of fire by becoming a locker room distraction, with his repeated antics having a detrimental effect on the rest of the team.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/couch/1439177,CST-SPT-greg19.article
The Bulls have all but cut Larry Hughes, who is selfish and has a huge contract. He's still on the team, technically.

http://probasketballnews.com/story/index.php?storyid=193
Larry Hughes spent the first two months chronically complaining in public about playing time.
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2/22/2009  6:04 PM
Gallo has not played well. If he had he would have gotten his ten minutes and possibly even increased those minutes as his play improved.
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2/22/2009  6:07 PM
Posted by Queeniepop:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9241484/Why-so-little-wheeling-and-dealing?
Larry Hughes brings his scowls, complaints, poisonous locker room presence, and shot-hungry game to New York. Like every other coach in the league, Mike D'Antoni believes he's the only one who can transform a sour apple into a sweet one.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/124742-if-the-suns-can-fire-terry-porter-why-cant-the-bulls-fire-del-negro
Larry Hughes has taken full advantage of del Negro's lack of fire by becoming a locker room distraction, with his repeated antics having a detrimental effect on the rest of the team.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/couch/1439177,CST-SPT-greg19.article
The Bulls have all but cut Larry Hughes, who is selfish and has a huge contract. He's still on the team, technically.

http://probasketballnews.com/story/index.php?storyid=193
Larry Hughes spent the first two months chronically complaining in public about playing time.



Now I see why D'Antoni played Hughes. Mike is scared of Hughes being a locker room distraction on the Knicks. Nice going Walsh you got rid of big terd for a out and out terd. I don't like Hughes getting any minutes on Gallo's and Chandlers team.


[Edited by - Vmart on 02-22-2009 6:51 PM]
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2/22/2009  6:16 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Queeniepop:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9241484/Why-so-little-wheeling-and-dealing?
Larry Hughes brings his scowls, complaints, poisonous locker room presence, and shot-hungry game to New York. Like every other coach in the league, Mike D'Antoni believes he's the only one who can transform a sour apple into a sweet one.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/124742-if-the-suns-can-fire-terry-porter-why-cant-the-bulls-fire-del-negro
Larry Hughes has taken full advantage of del Negro's lack of fire by becoming a locker room distraction, with his repeated antics having a detrimental effect on the rest of the team.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/couch/1439177,CST-SPT-greg19.article
The Bulls have all but cut Larry Hughes, who is selfish and has a huge contract. He's still on the team, technically.

http://probasketballnews.com/story/index.php?storyid=193
Larry Hughes spent the first two months chronically complaining in public about playing time.



Know I see why D'Antoni played Hughes. Mike is scared of Hughes being a locker room distraction on the Knicks. Nice going Walsh you got rid of big terd for a out and out terd. I don't like Hughes getting any minutes on Gallo's and Chandlers team.

maybe it was, who knows? handling egos isn't easy especially when u'r talking about veteran players like i said before... u got Q, Nate & Chandler who've been bustin their asses on the team since the start of the season who will command playing time, & u have Duhon who's the only real PG on the team... someone's gonna suffer & today it happened to be the rookie, Gallo... tomorrow it might be Chandler if he struggles early... the next day it might be Nate if he doesn't get it going off the bench... maybe Q the next... the flow of the game will most likely dictate MDA's rotations... but i don't think right off the bat u can just go up to 1 of your veteran players & tell them they're not playing cuz u wanna give the new guy a look... it's easier to manage that w/a rookie like Gallo who hasn't fully gotten his legs under him yet in the NBA... Gallo will get his minutes sooner or later... hopefully sooner than later.

btw, thank u for those links Queenie... i hadn't known he was being a distraction in Chicago til u posted those articles.
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2/22/2009  6:56 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Queeniepop:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9241484/Why-so-little-wheeling-and-dealing?
Larry Hughes brings his scowls, complaints, poisonous locker room presence, and shot-hungry game to New York. Like every other coach in the league, Mike D'Antoni believes he's the only one who can transform a sour apple into a sweet one.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/124742-if-the-suns-can-fire-terry-porter-why-cant-the-bulls-fire-del-negro
Larry Hughes has taken full advantage of del Negro's lack of fire by becoming a locker room distraction, with his repeated antics having a detrimental effect on the rest of the team.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/couch/1439177,CST-SPT-greg19.article
The Bulls have all but cut Larry Hughes, who is selfish and has a huge contract. He's still on the team, technically.

http://probasketballnews.com/story/index.php?storyid=193
Larry Hughes spent the first two months chronically complaining in public about playing time.



Know I see why D'Antoni played Hughes. Mike is scared of Hughes being a locker room distraction on the Knicks. Nice going Walsh you got rid of big terd for a out and out terd. I don't like Hughes getting any minutes on Gallo's and Chandlers team.

maybe it was, who knows? handling egos isn't easy especially when u'r talking about veteran players like i said before... u got Q, Nate & Chandler who've been bustin their asses on the team since the start of the season who will command playing time, & u have Duhon who's the only real PG on the team... someone's gonna suffer & today it happened to be the rookie, Gallo... tomorrow it might be Chandler if he struggles early... the next day it might be Nate if he doesn't get it going off the bench... maybe Q the next... the flow of the game will most likely dictate MDA's rotations... but i don't think right off the bat u can just go up to 1 of your veteran players & tell them they're not playing cuz u wanna give the new guy a look... it's easier to manage that w/a rookie like Gallo who hasn't fully gotten his legs under him yet in the NBA... Gallo will get his minutes sooner or later... hopefully sooner than later.

btw, thank u for those links Queenie... i hadn't known he was being a distraction in Chicago til u posted those articles.

on the same token, TT was a distraction to CHI and he was AOK over here.
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2/22/2009  6:59 PM
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You say that I'm incredibly inaccurate but then you say that when it comes to dribbling, finishing and defending, Gallinari does all of that quite well?
At this point who cares if we got the 10th pick versus the 14th if we made the playoffs.

"At this point", meaning that there is a point where you believe it's worth losing games and improving your draft position. Seeing that we agree on that, it comes down to a definition of where that point is. 11th in the conference and fighting for the 7th or 8th seed isn't that point for me. Just like it wasn't in 2004 when they made the 8th seed and were bounced out of the playoffs in a 4 game sweep.

Obviously the team needs to be smart with their lottery pick, the fact that they weren't last year doesn't change the logic behind what I think they should be doing to maximize their draft position.

The Knicks have 1 1st rd pick over the next 2 drafts. Last year's lottery pick is a gigantic question mark and now the team is saying that they're putting his development on the back burner because they're focusing on making the playoffs this year. IMHO, those 2 draft picks were incredibly important to help lure free agents in 2010 and be a huge part of making this team a contender beyond that. Maybe some people are happy to just make a playoff appearance and are willing to put development on the back burner. I'm not. Having a higher draft pick is obviously beneficial for a rebuilding team. What is the benefit of being a one and done playoff team?

Yes, for a rookie, and a player who has sat out all year, Gallo dribbles, passes, attacks, and defends quite well.

As to the draft and losing games, look, I know what you're trying to say last year, but you go about things in an aggressive and combative way. I understand it was in our team's best interests to have a higher pick, and if they happen to lose games, it could potentially put them into a better position to have a better pick.

However, I am never going to root for or demand for the team to LOSE GAMES and neither are those in command. It's a sad way to go about things and despite all the clamoring for it what happened? The better team last year got the higher pick.

You are acting off the idea that if we lose all our games we will get the #1 pick and draft a superstar. Nothing could be farther from reality.

So, no, we don't share the same point of view here. As to this season, no, we don't agree either. "AT THIS POINT" refers to the new regime and the fact that they refuse to purposely lose and will try to win games until we are mathematically eliminated which won't happen until the final week of the season most likely. Even then they're not going to just purposely lose games but they might sit guys they consider a part of the 2010+ plan to prevent injury.

Besides, do you see anyone in this draft that as this point is so worthwhile to have at #10 which is where we likely end up?

Versus the invaluable experience of our team to go on a winning streak and make the playoffs which will give us #14 most likely?

On the one hand you're crying for the kids to be developed. Well, they don't develop by losing games purposely tanked, they simply learn how to lose games and become losers.

You need a winning atmosphere for these kids to grow. Nothing else cuts it.

We're likely out of the playoff race but it'd be irresponsible for Mike to suddenly start our five worst players and play them 48 minutes a game. That helps nothing. That shuts all player development OFF.

Gallo is best served learning how to be a part of the offense while winning games and being the #5 option on the court during his minutes. Not being thrown out there to be THE offense. That's not how things work. That's how things fail.

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2/22/2009  7:33 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Queeniepop:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9241484/Why-so-little-wheeling-and-dealing?
Larry Hughes brings his scowls, complaints, poisonous locker room presence, and shot-hungry game to New York. Like every other coach in the league, Mike D'Antoni believes he's the only one who can transform a sour apple into a sweet one.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/124742-if-the-suns-can-fire-terry-porter-why-cant-the-bulls-fire-del-negro
Larry Hughes has taken full advantage of del Negro's lack of fire by becoming a locker room distraction, with his repeated antics having a detrimental effect on the rest of the team.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/couch/1439177,CST-SPT-greg19.article
The Bulls have all but cut Larry Hughes, who is selfish and has a huge contract. He's still on the team, technically.

http://probasketballnews.com/story/index.php?storyid=193
Larry Hughes spent the first two months chronically complaining in public about playing time.



Know I see why D'Antoni played Hughes. Mike is scared of Hughes being a locker room distraction on the Knicks. Nice going Walsh you got rid of big terd for a out and out terd. I don't like Hughes getting any minutes on Gallo's and Chandlers team.

maybe it was, who knows? handling egos isn't easy especially when u'r talking about veteran players like i said before... u got Q, Nate & Chandler who've been bustin their asses on the team since the start of the season who will command playing time, & u have Duhon who's the only real PG on the team... someone's gonna suffer & today it happened to be the rookie, Gallo... tomorrow it might be Chandler if he struggles early... the next day it might be Nate if he doesn't get it going off the bench... maybe Q the next... the flow of the game will most likely dictate MDA's rotations... but i don't think right off the bat u can just go up to 1 of your veteran players & tell them they're not playing cuz u wanna give the new guy a look... it's easier to manage that w/a rookie like Gallo who hasn't fully gotten his legs under him yet in the NBA... Gallo will get his minutes sooner or later... hopefully sooner than later.

btw, thank u for those links Queenie... i hadn't known he was being a distraction in Chicago til u posted those articles.

on the same token, TT was a distraction to CHI and he was AOK over here.

LOL, these are just his Chicago days, someone should post his Cleveland time as well.

Nothing really happened. A lot of things went on in my life as far as personal stuff. Cleveland just wasn't a happy place for me. I needed something fresh to kind of change the scenery. - Larry Hughes on his playing days in Cleveland

LOL, this is the same guy Lebron wanted and then wanted to get rid of in the same season.
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Yes, for a rookie, and a player who has sat out all year, Gallo dribbles, passes, attacks, and defends quite well.



My guess is if you ask the other 29 GM's in the league or any scout personnel man or anything related to evaluating NBA players--they will not find the same conclusion you have.

He has shown nice form on his shot. Otherwise he has looked slow-- awkward--- porous on d--and the only thing I have seen him attacking is the towel in his mouth as he lays on his stomach on the bench. He cannot use the sane dribble he was able to us in Europe because it's way to high and slow moving. He has a tremendous amount of work to do--they should play him 10 minutes a night--in fact I cant believe we arent. This is a problem with Knick teams going back 8 years--they always believe they are better than they really are. Are we really good enough to bench Gallinari? IMHO--if you make an investment in a player at pick 6 coming off a 23 win season and your 10 games under with 25 to go--even if there is a playoff chance--you play him his 10 minutes. I think it's common sense. He's no stra--who the F is looking at him as a star?
He's a guy who can hit a few 3's and spread the court. He needs to continue to learn the speed and intensity of the game and you don't do that from the bench. Nothing is a substitution for playing. Case closed
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2/22/2009  8:14 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes, for a rookie, and a player who has sat out all year, Gallo dribbles, passes, attacks, and defends quite well.



My guess is if you ask the other 29 GM's in the league or any scout personnel man or anything related to evaluating NBA players--they will not find the same conclusion you have.

He has shown nice form on his shot. Otherwise he has looked slow-- awkward--- porous on d--and the only thing I have seen him attacking is the towel in his mouth as he lays on his stomach on the bench. He cannot use the sane dribble he was able to us in Europe because it's way to high and slow moving. He has a tremendous amount of work to do--they should play him 10 minutes a night--in fact I cant believe we arent. This is a problem with Knick teams going back 8 years--they always believe they are better than they really are. Are we really good enough to bench Gallinari? IMHO--if you make an investment in a player at pick 6 coming off a 23 win season and your 10 games under with 25 to go--even if there is a playoff chance--you play him his 10 minutes. I think it's common sense. He's no stra--who the F is looking at him as a star?
He's a guy who can hit a few 3's and spread the court. He needs to continue to learn the speed and intensity of the game and you don't do that from the bench. Nothing is a substitution for playing. Case closed

case must have been closed on Chandler last year too.
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Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Yes, for a rookie, and a player who has sat out all year, Gallo dribbles, passes, attacks, and defends quite well.



My guess is if you ask the other 29 GM's in the league or any scout personnel man or anything related to evaluating NBA players--they will not find the same conclusion you have.

He has shown nice form on his shot. Otherwise he has looked slow-- awkward--- porous on d--and the only thing I have seen him attacking is the towel in his mouth as he lays on his stomach on the bench. He cannot use the sane dribble he was able to us in Europe because it's way to high and slow moving. He has a tremendous amount of work to do--they should play him 10 minutes a night--in fact I cant believe we arent. This is a problem with Knick teams going back 8 years--they always believe they are better than they really are. Are we really good enough to bench Gallinari? IMHO--if you make an investment in a player at pick 6 coming off a 23 win season and your 10 games under with 25 to go--even if there is a playoff chance--you play him his 10 minutes. I think it's common sense. He's no stra--who the F is looking at him as a star?
He's a guy who can hit a few 3's and spread the court. He needs to continue to learn the speed and intensity of the game and you don't do that from the bench. Nothing is a substitution for playing. Case closed

case must have been closed on Chandler last year too.

To be fair Gallinari has been more of an opportunity in comparison to Chandler's rookie season. And whether anyone wants to face it, Chandler shown more promise at this point. Hell Balkman had a better rookie season than Gallo. I hoping for a late Mardy revelation to strike Gallo but Larry "Any shot is Good Shot" Hughes make hinder that.
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Yes, for a rookie, and a player who has sat out all year, Gallo dribbles, passes, attacks, and defends quite well.



My guess is if you ask the other 29 GM's in the league or any scout personnel man or anything related to evaluating NBA players--they will not find the same conclusion you have.

He has shown nice form on his shot. Otherwise he has looked slow-- awkward--- porous on d--and the only thing I have seen him attacking is the towel in his mouth as he lays on his stomach on the bench. He cannot use the sane dribble he was able to us in Europe because it's way to high and slow moving. He has a tremendous amount of work to do--they should play him 10 minutes a night--in fact I cant believe we arent. This is a problem with Knick teams going back 8 years--they always believe they are better than they really are. Are we really good enough to bench Gallinari? IMHO--if you make an investment in a player at pick 6 coming off a 23 win season and your 10 games under with 25 to go--even if there is a playoff chance--you play him his 10 minutes. I think it's common sense. He's no stra--who the F is looking at him as a star?
He's a guy who can hit a few 3's and spread the court. He needs to continue to learn the speed and intensity of the game and you don't do that from the bench. Nothing is a substitution for playing. Case closed

case must have been closed on Chandler last year too.

To be fair Gallinari has been more of an opportunity in comparison to Chandler's rookie season. And whether anyone wants to face it, Chandler shown more promise at this point. Hell Balkman had a better rookie season than Gallo. I hoping for a late Mardy revelation to strike Gallo but Larry "Any shot is Good Shot" Hughes make hinder that.

BRIGGS is closing the case cause Gallo didn't play 1 game. Chandler played all of 35 games last year and has been OK. Just wanted to put it into perspective.
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Hughes is utter garbage, I can't believe that the Knicks are going to destroy their future for a player that is going to be the equivielent of a Willie Anderson, Penny Hardaway, or a Jalen Rose. Playing Hughes is going to cost the Knicks dearly. Especially in the future. The Knicks have to remember that Gallo is the future of the Knicks and that his playing time is more vital to the Knicks than having Hughes in there for some false playoff push because Hughes will not put the Knicks over the top. D'Antoni is mistaken if he thinks this scrub is going to put the Knicks over the top or help him make a run.
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Posted by Vmart:

Hughes is utter garbage, I can't believe that the Knicks are going to destroy their future for a player that is going to be the equivielent of a Willie Anderson, Penny Hardaway, or a Jalen Rose. Playing Hughes is going to cost the Knicks dearly. Especially in the future. The Knicks have to remember that Gallo is the future of the Knicks and that his playing time is more vital to the Knicks than having Hughes in there for some false playoff push because Hughes will not put the Knicks over the top. D'Antoni is mistaken if he thinks this scrub is going to put the Knicks over the top or help him make a run.

For the hatters, Hughes real value might not be known until next years trading deadline when his expiring will be high enough $$ to make trading for a max player easier cause there won't need to be as many players involved...just sayin', for instance Hughes 13M + young talent or a 6M N8 or a 6M Jeffries equal one max player.

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