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What did you think of Gallo tonite??
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BasketballJones
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1/19/2009  11:17 AM
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This argument just goes round and round and round and round.

Right. Great opportunity to pad the post count.

Right back at you, amigo

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1/19/2009  11:21 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
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This argument just goes round and round and round and round.

Right. Great opportunity to pad the post count.

Right back at you, amigo

Time to make hay while the sun shines.

I don't know what that means, but regardless, I agree.
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1/19/2009  11:23 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

This argument just goes round and round and round and round.

Right. Great opportunity to pad the post count.

Right back at you, amigo

Time to make hay while the sun shines.

I don't know what that means, but regardless, I agree.

The agreeing with me is the important part.
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Bippity10
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1/19/2009  11:29 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

This argument just goes round and round and round and round.

Right. Great opportunity to pad the post count.

Right back at you, amigo

Time to make hay while the sun shines.

I don't know what that means, but regardless, I agree.

The agreeing with me is the important part.

I agree
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1/19/2009  11:34 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:

This argument just goes round and round and round and round.

Right. Great opportunity to pad the post count.

Right back at you, amigo

Time to make hay while the sun shines.

I don't know what that means, but regardless, I agree.

The agreeing with me is the important part.

I agree

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1/19/2009  11:46 AM
NYK4ever: Apparently NYsportsfan11 let you out of the basement for the afternoon.
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1/19/2009  11:49 AM
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NYK4ever: Apparently NYsportsfan11 let you out of the basement for the afternoon.

What else?
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1/19/2009  11:51 AM
That picture is funny as hell!
I'll never trust this' team again.
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1/19/2009  12:02 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

tkf, you are entitled to your opinion but for the record, I don't put stock in guys like D'Antoni and their draft day records. People in Phoenix are still scratching their head over some of his moves. Deng, Fernandez and Rodriguez would make more since what they got.

For the record, not only would I take a guy like DJ Augustin over Gallinari. I got to wonder if this coach even understands how to gauge a player potential for the reason I stated. You got his people telling the press that Knicks can't get him to lift weights because he is Gallo and lifting weights is part of him being Gallo. Ok.... You got the GM telling the press that he got to get stronger and you got the coach saying look at him he hasn't touch any weights. That is another mess for another day in Knick land.


Now, let's get to the 2008 draft day plan. You begin your regime talking about a need to acquire a pass first point guard and you leave one on the table and go out and spend $12 million on one who from what I seen has trouble staying in front of him. I wouldn't even say Augustin was the best player left on the board just one of them. BTW, Gordon is putting up some nice numbers for a guy who has to play next to a Z Bo and wouldn't you know he is a SG. Hmmm... I wonder if the Knicks could use a guy like that. I am a little more fair in my assessment with Gordon then you I would guess. Augustin's team is playing better because they are playing against some of the worse competition in the league right now. Mayo's team stinks but I am not about to downgrade him because of that fact.

Actually, he said offense wasn't the problem. He said defense was the problem. But that just a matter of opinion but the fact is that he said it. I could believe you or my lying eyes and ears. BTW, I would take Anthony Randolph 41%, 5 rebounds and his 1 block over Gallinari any day of the and twice on game day. People went nuts when the guy got a block. I could only imagine what they do if he actually gets a rebound. Listen, Gallinari can shoot a 3 pointer and do a Shamgod. That's neat. I get it. He's a big guy and can dribble the ball, how does that help you again in the league? Is he strong enough to finish? Dirk tried to do that his first year and got put on his butt so many times he had to redefine his game as he put it. He underestimated the NBA and the speed of its players. But to tell me somehow because you, Walsh or D'Antoni think that because you say he has a high BB IQ it is fact. And what does that mean anyway. Is there a test or something? Who scored high marks and who didn't. Does Kobe or Pierce have high ones? Does Artest? Does he have a better BB IQ than Beasley or Rose? Did no one else have this high BB IQ drafted after him? It sounds racist if you ask me. Not trying to stir any trouble but it just does. Team player? Because he likes Jerome and you think he thinks of the team first. As I stated before, he took the majority of his shots last season on his Italian team. Saying he is team first is much like Kobe saying it. It sounds cool but you take it with a grain of salt. Just more spin as you put it. If this was the case then you wouldn't need a Lebron or Wade to come in his as a saviour would you?

BTW, the season already begun so I don't see how I am jumping to conclusions. Sorry about his back issues but that doesn't stop the clock on his contract. To each their own. There are still people that justify mistakes in the past that were so obvious at the time but not every one can see that clearly. As I said with Paladin, no harm, no foul.


First you don't have to put stock in Dantoni as a drafter. simply because he is not a GM and that is not his job. His record in pheonix speaks for itself, unless you are going to tell me, he would have been even better with Fernandez or Deng.. I just don't buy that, especially since Dantoni was averageing over 50 wins a year..

I would take Anthony Randolph 41%, 5 rebounds and his 1 block over Gallinari any day of the and twice on game day. People went nuts when the guy got a block. I could only imagine what they do if he actually gets a rebound.


That is fine, again, that is your opinion. I just wouldn't. Anthony randolph is not going to scare anyone out of the lane with his 1 block per game, so give me a guy who has things we need. Like shooting and basketball IQ... say what you want, but the offense is a problem. when your team shoots 43/35% from the field and from downtown and your philosophy is pushing the ball and getting good looks. I see that as a bigger problem than our defense which has improved over the past few weeks... And basketball IQ is something you see in a players game, for example, when to take a shot, and when to pass, recognizing defensive weaknesses and attacking that, recognizing when you are in a bad position and not forcing the issue. All that plays a part of the basketball IQ.. BAd teams have guys who can't do any of the things I mentioned. It is not that hard to see..
Does he have a better BB IQ than Beasley or Rose? Did no one else have this high BB IQ drafted after him? It sounds racist if you ask me. Not trying to stir any trouble but it just does.

He probably does, just as mayo probably has a better ball IQ than westbrook and Alexander.. You see, it has nothing to do with race at all. Again, this is not rocket science..

I could only imagine what they do if he actually gets a rebound. Listen, Gallinari can shoot a 3 pointer and do a Shamgod. That's neat. I get it. He's a big guy and can dribble the ball, how does that help you again in the league? Is he strong enough to finish? Dirk tried to do that his first year and got put on his butt so many times he had to redefine his game as he put it.

way to marginalize gallanari the player, but the fact that he can shoot and do a shamgod is pretty impressive, especially since we don't have a player that can do either of those things at this point..

And regardin gdirk, you are right, he did get put on his butt as a skinny kid. I wonder How dirk turned out? hmmmm.. yea, he had to adjust, but by saying this, are you telling me that gallanari can't?

i don't get where you are going, only that you don't like him and are trying hard to nitpick a player who played 15 minutes and hit more threes than the guy (bayless, 1-10) many here wanted us to take.. But hey, I guess offense is not our problem.. right?
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1/19/2009  12:08 PM
Hitting only two three's is not a big sign of the times. Give him at least ten games before anyone makes judgement on his talent level.

My only argument is his back. Not his talent.
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1/19/2009  12:27 PM
Deep down inside without realizing it, there are a good amount of people on this board who are actually rooting for Gallinari to fail. It's weird.
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1/19/2009  12:41 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Deep down inside without realizing it, there are a good amount of people on this board who are actually rooting for Gallinari to fail. It's weird.

Not me. I'm not rooting for him to fall. I'm worried he will' fall.
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1/19/2009  1:25 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Bippity10:

Deep down inside without realizing it, there are a good amount of people on this board who are actually rooting for Gallinari to fail. It's weird.

Not me. I'm not rooting for him to fall. I'm worried he will' fall.

I think we all are. I think we are all worried about his back and hoping he has skills. But I do think there are people that are really hoping that he is permanently injured or a bust without realizing that they are.
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1/19/2009  1:52 PM
Back to the original question, what are my thoughts about Gallo:

It was difficult to judge. In some areas you could see potential and in other areas there are concerns, but it's obviously impossible to judge based on such a small sample of minutes. He looks like he is going to be a good passer. He moves the ball and sees the floor well. His jumper is well documented. He didn't move without the ball at all. He stood in place a lot. He actually went to the boards on a couple occassions but did not appear to fight through any boxouts. It actually looked liek he gave up the moment someone put a body on him. He gave an effort on D but seems to have a long way to go(judging by how he was dunked on, although there was a pretty bad travel on that move).

Tough to tell from this. He didn't embarrass himself but didn't really shine either. He was just there.
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1/19/2009  3:45 PM
Couldn't watch the game [working], but the box score numbers were solid for 16 minutes. 4 rebs,2 asts, 2 stls, 1 block with 4 of 7 shooting is decent work (even if it is a small sample size)

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1/19/2009  3:50 PM
Gallinari was very active in today's game, his defense was surprisingly very good too, he did a great job on help defense and switching and even had a block of Derrick Rose.

Offensively, his stroke is just a thing of beauty, he did a good job of crashing the boards, most times it ended up in a made shot, but it was good to see him doing it anyway. He was very active around the hoop, had that nice alley-oop layup lol and also that nice slam on the break from Nate.

People who chose to pick apart this guy before actually watching him play ended up with egg on their face, atleast for today. A small drop in the bucket? Yes. Some hope that the Knicks made a solid draft pick? Yes.
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1/19/2009  3:55 PM
He's gonnna be very good.
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1/19/2009  4:04 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:

He's gonnna be very good.

I actually agree, so long as the back problem isn't a chronic thing.
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1/19/2009  4:13 PM
Positives:
Nice shot, and he has the skills to create his own shot. Good passer. Plays within' the flow of the offense. Good awareness on D' and doesn't give up. Gets hands on loose balls. Plays smart. Not the slowest, and he's far from a slug. Seems to be a good teammate and well liked by the rest of the Knicks.

Negatives:
Needs a ton of upper body strength, and even lower. He needs overall body strength. If he doesn't gain it, he'll become Channing Frye. Gets boxed out easily and gets out muscled easily. Needs to gain the strength so he can finish his drives. Not the fastest and he's far from a gazelle.

Overall, I thought he played well against the Bulls until the end. His lack of experience got himself back on the bench. I like him so far.
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1/19/2009  4:15 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Positives:
Nice shot, and he has the skills to create his own shot. Good passer. Plays within' the flow of the offense. Good awareness on D' and doesn't give up. Gets hands on loose balls. Plays smart. Not the slowest, and he's far from a slug. Seems to be a good teammate and well liked by the rest of the Knicks.

Negatives:
Needs a ton of upper body strength, and even lower. He needs overall body strength. If he doesn't gain it, he'll become Channing Frye. Gets boxed out easily and gets out muscled easily. Needs to gain the strength so he can finish his drives. Not the fastest and he's far from a gazelle.

Overall, I thought he played well against the Bulls until the end. His lack of experience got himself back on the bench. I like him so far.

he's no gazelle but he's way more mobile than Frye. a much better passer and playmaker than Frye could ever hope to be.
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