well no kidding we have to lure 1 to get the other one... that's the point, u sign 1 up w/the thought that his presence will lure the second guy.

& if u trade D Lee now & tank like i'm saying we should, we will be getting a top 7 pick at the very least IMO.

so yeah, the cap space to sign up 2 max guys in 2010 & a top 7 lottery pick is a better drawing card than the cap space to sign up 1 max guy, D Lee & a #10-13 pick.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Allanfan20:

He was saying include Harrington in a package to entice a team like Memphis, to take Jefferies.

i know what he was saying but the issue we were discussing is how to manage a way to keep D Lee & still have the cap space to sign 2 max guys in 2010

Packaging both Curry & Jefferies in the same deal is going to be a very though task to do. Which is why if you could package Harrington & or Nate with Jefferies. Then you could maybe look to package the draft pick in the offseason & Curry which would be more enticing.

Nate Robinson probably gets traded at the deadline. I doubt we resign him, and I doubt we look to let him walk for nothing. So the best bet would be to unload him during the deadline.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Allanfan20:

He was saying include Harrington in a package to entice a team like Memphis, to take Jefferies.

i know what he was saying but the issue we were discussing is how to manage a way to keep D Lee & still have the cap space to sign 2 max guys in 2010

Packaging both Curry & Jefferies in the same deal is going to be a very though task to do. Which is why if you could package Harrington & or Nate with Jefferies. Then you could maybe look to package the draft pick in the offseason & Curry which would be more enticing.

Nate Robinson probably gets traded at the deadline. I doubt we resign him, and I doubt we look to let him walk for nothing. So the best bet would be to unload him during the deadline.

If we traded Nate and Jeffries for an expiring contract, we just might be able to resign Lee and still have cap space for 2 max FAs.

If we keep Lee, we gotta find us a DAWG to put next to him down-low. Someone that's going to protect the paint and block shots. Problem is they're hard to find.

how about this:

Curry $9.7 mil
Fishlips $6 mil
Nate $2 mil
D Lee $1.7 mil

for

Josh Howard $10 mil
Stackhouse $7 mil
Gerald Green $800K
DAL's 1st round pick lottery protected


right now DAL is out of the playoff picture even tho they've been playing pretty well this year... i think that trade would probably guarantee they make the playoffs this year & we all know Cuban doesn't shy away from spending the bucks to get into the postseason... both Josh & Stack have contracts that expire after next season & u can simply pick up Josh's $10 mil option if he's playing great for us... Stack & Green will be able to plug the hole at SG for the time being & the extra 1st round pick could prove to be huge if a kid like Patterson, Budinger or Derozan are available at #15-18.

i think that is a pretty realistic trade to pursue personally.

Posted by TMS:

how about this:

Curry $9.7 mil
Fishlips $6 mil
Nate $2 mil
D Lee $1.7 mil

for

Josh Howard $10 mil
Stackhouse $7 mil
Gerald Green $800K
DAL's 1st round pick lottery protected


right now DAL is out of the playoff picture even tho they've been playing pretty well this year... i think that trade would probably guarantee they make the playoffs this year & we all know Cuban doesn't shy away from spending the bucks to get into the postseason... both Josh & Stack have contracts that expire after next season & u can simply pick up Josh's $10 mil option if he's playing great for us... Stack & Green will be able to plug the hole at SG for the time being & the extra 1st round pick could prove to be huge if a kid like Patterson, Budinger or Derozan are available at #15-18.

i think that is a pretty realistic trade to pursue personally.

This was realistic before the driver story... Not any more.

Being a role player has nothing to do with being drafted by Isiah. David Lee scores off tip ins and put backs. He cannot create for himself. He is not an offensive player and his defense pretty much sucks so he can't make up for his lack of offensive creativity with that either. The only thing Lee does great is rebound. I can't remember but we're people like Anthony Mason and Brian Grant bandied about as perennial all-stars during their time? I'm sure if their prime selves were on this team and replaced Lee people would be calling them all-stars too. Fact of the matter is that Lee has no all-star capabilities besides rebounding. Rebounding and hustling doesn't make you an all-star. So therefore he is what he is. He is a role player, meaning that he fills his role - rebound and do the little things. He doesn't blow anyone away and nobody says he needs to but to make him out to be something he's not is wrong.

Knick fans tend to overrate every young player who passes through this team. Maybe it's because they need hope through all the losing, I don't know. I mean look at when people called Ariza the future T-Mac, Sweetney a beast, Mardy a future starter for us, Frank Williams a good PG, and Balkman a reincarnation of Dennis Rodman. I'm not saying Lee falls in line with any of them but we need to keep our heads out of the clouds. We all want a young future superstar to be on this team by the time 2010 rolls around. Maybe that will be Chandler(long ways to go in that department) or maybe it will be Gallinari. Who knows? I just know it isn't David Lee.

Posted by GKFv2:

Being a role player has nothing to do with being drafted by Isiah. David Lee scores off tip ins and put backs. He cannot create for himself. He is not an offensive player and his defense pretty much sucks so he can't make up for his lack of offensive creativity with that either. The only thing Lee does great is rebound.

David Lee is just the right type of "Role" player we need to play alongside 1 or 2 superstar FA that we are trying to sign in 2010. Nothing wrong with scoring off tip-ins and put backs....and pick and roll dunks. And being an animal rebounder. And being a team player- not hogging the ball and demanding taking x number of shots/game. We need someone who can play like that. David Lee can and does. He is not only a perfect "Role" player, but he also "ROCKS". He is here to stay!

The no one on this team we currently have can start for a contender. Lee is the best player for the Knicks right now

Posted by 4949:

Lee's not worth talking about anymore for Knick future, since the majority want him gone.

Who's the majority?

How many positive articles have been written about David this year? Not many at all and they are always quick to criticize him. I think most people dont want to pay Lee and he deserves the money and is the Knicks best player