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King1
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1/6/2009  8:00 PM
SO you want to compare Jerry West and DOnnie Walsh and the Lakers and Knicks. All I am saying is Walsh has done one great thing since he has been here and that is trade Zach. The other things are very questionable and we will see if they work out. The Knicks are playing with 8 guys because Walsh cant figure out what to do with Marbury and the other dead weight we have. You people think finding a guy what Lee does is easy last year in the league 13 players averaged a double-double. I am sure Gallo and Jeffires can step in and get ten boards a game.
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1/6/2009  8:14 PM
King, you pick and choose info to make your arguments without considering all info.

"All I am saying is Walsh has done one great thing since he has been here and that is trade Zach. "

Didn't he also draft Reggie Miller and the Davis brothers and Smits? Didn't he also build a very solid Indiana team that lasted for years? Didn't he also trade for Jermaine Oneal? Just because he left his former teams in shambles - something that the great Jerry West also did - does not make him a bad GM as you were insinuating.

Clearing cap space for 2010 is a risk, but a risk that a TON of really good GMs are taking, one of which is in NY. The other way to build a team is through the draft, and if the Knicks don't sign 2 big names, they will also be able to do that. Being mediocre is not the way to go.
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1/6/2009  8:17 PM
Posted by King1:

SO you want to compare Jerry West and DOnnie Walsh and the Lakers and Knicks. All I am saying is Walsh has done one great thing since he has been here and that is trade Zach. The other things are very questionable and we will see if they work out. The Knicks are playing with 8 guys because Walsh cant figure out what to do with Marbury and the other dead weight we have. You people think finding a guy what Lee does is easy last year in the league 13 players averaged a double-double. I am sure Gallo and Jeffires can step in and get ten boards a game.

I really want to see you do something Jerome, Malik, and Curry. Not to mention Q and Jeffries. I'm sure these guys have amazing value around the league. Anyway, it is sorta D'Antoni's fault we have 8 guys. Malik and Big Scrub can play. He just doesn't play them and rightfully so. Same with Roberson. None of these guys are good but if you need to give someone a rest you need to give someone some time. Malik is probably the least of all evils.
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1/6/2009  8:19 PM
so what if we can't 100% guaranteed get a double double guy to replace D Lee?... there are a number of awesome players in the NBA that have averaged 9 rebounds a game or slightly less that are way better offensively & defensively than D Lee is... the point isn't that u can replace D Lee w/a single player but that other guys can step up to help fill the void, or u can sign up other players to fill the role that he's currently playing in the offense & give u improvement on the defensive end as well... Lebron James, Chris Bosh or any other bigname FA is not looking at this team & going "Oh, they have David Lee, that makes me want to go play there."... gimme a break already... he's not gonna impact those guys' decisions... having the ability to offer 2 bigname guys a contract at the same time is going to prove to be much more of an effective drawing card to bring any of those guys here in 2010.
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1/6/2009  8:21 PM
Bosh would want to play with David Lee before anyone else on this team. He doesnt have to rebound and David would do his dirty work. Great players love to play with guys that dont take shots, when they do they go in, and they do all the dirty work.
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1/6/2009  8:25 PM
Martin his draft record at Indiana is less than stellar when you do 20 drafts your going to find a good player once in a while. WHat has Walsh done in the last ten years?
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1/6/2009  8:27 PM
If you're trying to shoot bullets and Donnie Walsh's resume your basically grasping at straws.
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1/6/2009  8:30 PM
Posted by King1:

Martin his draft record at Indiana is less than stellar when you do 20 drafts your going to find a good player once in a while. WHat has Walsh done in the last ten years?

Don't know and I don't care. He has a plan and a record of solid team building; every GM screws up once in a while. He traded away ZBo and got great value for Crawford. Gallo is to be seen. His hire of has been great as it increased the value of the players he traded and he has created an environment where DLee, Chandler, Duhon, Nate have also all increased their respective values.
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1/6/2009  8:39 PM
I dont care about his resume let's see what he does at New York. Walsh left his last job in a mess his last major trade at Indiana set the franchise back years, his draft pick this year has done nothing and he never saw him play. He has handled the Marbury situation bad, and he isnt getting anything of value back for Lee. I just want Walsh to get a guard and a big that can play and this team can make the playoffs
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1/6/2009  8:41 PM
Posted by VDesai:

If you're trying to shoot bullets and Donnie Walsh's resume your basically grasping at straws.

Not really, he is regarded around the league as an overrated general manager who claim to fame is still drafting Reggie Miller and Chuck Person. Brown ran the draft during the 90s. Hell he even was against acquiring O'Neal. Thomas had to convince him to part ways with Davis.
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1/6/2009  8:42 PM
Posted by King1:

I dont care about his resume let's see what he does at New York. Walsh left his last job in a mess his last major trade at Indiana set the franchise back years, his draft pick this year has done nothing and he never saw him play. He has handled the Marbury situation bad, and he isnt getting anything of value back for Lee. I just want Walsh to get a guard and a big that can play and this team can make the playoffs

Most of what you said is false or simply unwarranted bashing. Go eat some ice cream.
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1/6/2009  8:45 PM
GF I have forgot more basketball than you know. Go back and play halo and leave basketball to the people who know it.
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1/6/2009  8:47 PM
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GF I have forgot more basketball than you know. Go back and play halo and leave basketball to the people who know it.

Uh huh. Obviously you are a clueless human being who spends his time crying about Lee and Walsh every day on this forum. Some great knowledge you have provided here my man. Keep up the great work basketball genius.
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1/6/2009  8:49 PM
Walsh never saw Gallo play in person. Walsh trade for Dunleavy and Murphy because he wanted to get rid of the morons that he brought to the team. Walsh hired Isiah. Walsh signed MDA which I think is a great hire. I just get tired of everyone saying MDA is pumping up players. Lee got 10 rebounds, got points, shot a high percentage, and played no defense way before MDA got here. HAs he pumped up Quentin trade value?
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1/6/2009  8:53 PM
Crying about Lee I am really unhappy he is going to make 50 million in this league and have a nice career. I just want him to win in New York.
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1/6/2009  8:55 PM
i think Walsh has some questionable moves on his resume just like every GM in any sport does... i think what he's done since he's been ours has been favorable for the most part... he hired a terrific head coach, he got rid of our worst contract, he got back a quality player in exchange for Jamal's contract, he signed up a quality PG to a reasonable cap friendly contract... the only head scratcher moves he's made in my eyes has been the Anthony Roberson signing & the Balkman trade, 2 minor moves to be sure... i think not re-signing D Lee & Nate was absolutely the right thing to do on his part... i think he's looking to trade both those guys & he's gonna make a strong play to bring in 2 max player FA's in 2010 & will still have some good young players like Wilson, Gallo & whoever he selects in the draft this year still here to play w/them... i know for sure he knows a lot more basketball than anyone on a sports message forum & i have to give him the benefit of the doubt to get the job done the right way until he gives me a reason to start to doubt him... so far i haven't seen enough reason to go that route.

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1/6/2009  8:56 PM
Posted by King1:

Walsh never saw Gallo play in person. Walsh trade for Dunleavy and Murphy because he wanted to get rid of the morons that he brought to the team. Walsh hired Isiah. Walsh signed MDA which I think is a great hire. I just get tired of everyone saying MDA is pumping up players. Lee got 10 rebounds, got points, shot a high percentage, and played no defense way before MDA got here. HAs he pumped up Quentin trade value?

And I highly doubt Don Nelson saw Nowitzki play in person when he traded for his draft rights. If he got great insight from his scouts, then he went with it. Nobody knows what Gallinari will be. Chastising him for a guy who hasn't played yet due to injury is pretty stupid.

Walsh did not make that trade with Dunleavy and Murphy. He had assigned Larry Bird power since 2003. Bird was making all the decisions with Walsh signing off on them.

Walsh hired Isiah as a coach. He gave him the same chance he gave Larry Bird as a coach. Isiah underachieved and was fired by Bird after he came back to the franchise.

Quentin Richardson sucks. You can't raise value for people who suck. D'Antoni raised the value of Randolph and Crawford to the point where people actually dealt shorter contracts for them.
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1/6/2009  9:02 PM
I dont think they are going to trade Lee. What would I know I just like eating ice cream. Wow you have an excuse for every move he made. Walsh didnt draft Reggie Miller the coach did so dont give him any credit for that. TMS I can see why Walsh didnt sign Lee but I dont think he thought Lee would average 16 and 13 after the trade.
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1/6/2009  9:12 PM
i think gkf and king should fight with bamboo sticks.
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1/6/2009  9:13 PM
GF I could be clueless and I will agree with that. I must be a hell of a salesman though, I tricked Jahidi White, Chris Carrawell, Loren Woods, David Lee, Branden Rush, Shaun Livingstone, and Tyler Hanbrough and Larry Hughes to play on my team and I didnt mess them up that bad. I am sure you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night and that is your basketball knowledge.
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