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4949
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1/4/2009  5:26 PM
Posted by tommydee21:
Posted by 4949:

Tommy, I'm a big Lee fan (I think as you well know). My question is 'is there a specific reason why the brass would be engaging in trading Lee?' The only thing I have to go by is what people here say and that's that they don't think his defense is worth keeping him.

Check us out 49, and thanks again Martin, you know I dig this site.

AS far as lee is concerned, Martin hit in on the head, he's been the biggest question mark in terms of what walsh is going to do because I'm really waiting for Walsh to add a contract past 2010. It could be lee it could be nate, it could be diaw it may be none.

Walsh doesn't want to commit so he passed on his chance with Nate and Lee and will let the market dictate their value. I think Walsh has a pretty good idea that lee will get between 7-9 mill per mid-to-long term.

If that's the case he may be better off dealing him.

Thanks dude. I'll think about this more and keep an open mind on it.

[Edited by - 4949 on 01-04-2009 5:27 PM]
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1/4/2009  5:49 PM
Listen to the fans here. You want to trade a guy that is top 6 in rebounds and the only guy that shoots straight on the team for a point guard that doesnt guard and is getting 14 minutes a game and shoots under 40%.
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1/4/2009  5:52 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

Not to mention... Randolph to the Clippers rumors began prior to the 2008 NBA Draft!!!!!!! Then picked up again during the summer.... then again in October/November.

WOW what a SURPRISE the teams finally consummated a trade!

Also, come'on... first it was Lee will go to Denver, now it's Lee to the Blazers, now some megadeal where the Knicks rape everyone they trade with. Why not just finish it off and list that Lee is about to be traded to the other 27 teams not mentioned, so then when he finally gets dealt, you can say "See, a few days ago I posted Lee to (_____) my sources came through again!"

Meh....again, someone give me a shout when legit trade talks are ongoing. Not when some towel boy for the Clippers claims that it's up to the Clippers to sign off on some mega-deal.
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1/4/2009  6:06 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

GKF, seriously, back down. We welcome Tommy posting his stuff and wish there was a better way to include his blog items on our site. I have no clue where you come off as taking the position you just wrote about and think it's clearly way off.

I'm not going to speak for Greek, but for myself, as to Tommy Dee and his blog if he's going to post an article or a rumor it's going to get discussed and if not picked apart. If it sounds silly it's going to get bashed. Just like any other journalist's article, rumor, or opinion.

Tommy: I'm not sure why you feel the need to lay your reputation on "breaking the randolph trade". Besides that was an ongoing rumor for months dating back to the draft and then again in the summer. Again, there was no surprise it happened, and I don't really see the inside scoop you've suggested you had on it. Why not just post your opinions and rumors and disregard the need to validate your sources?

I will say though you did write a good piece on the David Lee dilemma yesterday. I see it as a tough situation as well.
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1/4/2009  6:22 PM
Posted by tommydee21:

let's keep in mind that the Blazers are 7 games over .500 and making a playoff push. They are not interested in a major shakeup but could move some pieces that don't fit in order to get Lee in return.

this is exactly the type of team i said would be interested in making a trade for Lee at the deadline... i think Donnie was absolutely right in not signing him to a longterm extension before the season began... now he's got plenty of options to get back young talent on rookie scale salary for him in a trade, or he can use him as part of a larger package to get rid of some dead weight on the roster & try to get a pick back in the process if he can.
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1/4/2009  6:25 PM
I also agreed to not signing Lee or Nate. Keeping the options open was a good move. Of course, this kind of contradicts my wanting to keep Lee still. Gotta change my ways I guess.
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1/4/2009  6:29 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by King1:

I cant think of a better fit for New York. Segio shoots 38% from the field and below 30% on three that would be the perfect addition. If he cant beat out Steve Blake is he really a championship type point guard

Sergio Rodriguez is back up player and David Lee is playing like an all star--sounds fair. Yes and throw in Channing Frye as well

More like Bayless Outlaw Rodriguez and two number 1 picks for Rose and Lee. I want a premium package for Lee or I will just sign him long term. I would never do Rodriguez Webster and Frye--that is absurd

You are nuts. Why not ask them to bend over and kiss their own @$$ every time they step into the garden in addition... Bayless Outlaw Rodriguez and two picks... they want him to be their 6th man... glad you are not in charge. Lee would have a max contract with full incentives... do you really beleive Lee is that good, or do you just WANT to beleive he is that good?
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1/4/2009  6:29 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by tommydee21:

Several sources with knowledge of the situation have told TKB that the Portland Trailblazers are getting serious about trading for David Lee.

Blazers ownership thinks Lee is the perfect 6th man, who will be 26 in April and can be part of their long term plans. As we know Lee has leverage because he doesn’t have to sign with a team he is traded to, but playing in Portland with their young core would be very attractive.

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/04/blazers-getting-ready-to-move-in-on-lee/

'Several sources told 'The Knicks Blog' this??? Where are the several sources? Unless I see this on the A/P, then it doesn't mean a thing!

Several sources probably means nobody is reading my website and I need to make sht up to catch some hype

that was pretty uncalled for.
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1/4/2009  6:30 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:

2 things to add:

1) Does anyone think that all of the Denver and Portland and Charlotte rumors means either someone within the Knicks org or just outside of it is leaking? In a good way?

2) Follow-up from Tommy from his own blog comment section:
This was the post from gym rat Bathija who apparently has serious ties to the Clips/

I haven’t been able to confirm this from my clippers source yet…

…the trade will send Marcus Camby and Channing Frye back to the Knicks along with Deandre Jordan from a trade exception, Jerryd Bayless and Jason Hart.

The Trail Blazers will receive David Lee and Anthony Roberson from the Knicks and Brian Skinner and Ricky Davis from the Clippers.

The Clippers will receive Quentin Richardson, Malik Rose and Sergio Rodriguez. One source has said the trade should be complete by next week. All salaries/.roster spots work out for all teams….

That is very interesting.

NY Recieves: Camby, Frye, Jordan, Bayless, Hart
NY Trades: Lee, QRich, Malik

That's a very good package. I hope that source is right. I wonder why the Clippers are making this trade though?

i love that trade if it's true... we get a premier shotblocker who's better than D Lee in every phase of the game for the present, & also a couple talented young prospects to develop for the future... Frye's a sucka but it's all good, i'll deal w/him for that deal to go down.
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1/4/2009  6:33 PM
Posted by tommydee21:

first off thanks martin, I know you're always paying attention.

Secondly guys in fairness, you can blast my site if you want. I have already built some credibility, but this is not about me, never has been. Let's just be clear.

I have sources around the league (not that difficult when you know the right people) and i had someone post the clippers deal in my comment section. I got on the phone and no one had heard of it but I heard plenty of rumblings that the Blazers have a man crush on lee for the reason stated. They appear to be interested in making a move.

For me there would have to be a third team involved, but I haven't confirmed with sources ( or the people who helped me break the Randolph trade 15 minutes before Alan hahn as well as Marbury suiting up. I also had Harrington for Crawford on the radar in July. It's on the blog check it out) about this clippers thing, so at this point I'm not putting my name to it.



dude, keep posting ur info... most of us appreciate the input.
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1/4/2009  6:38 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

Stop being a douche-bag... oh wait, that's your role on this site...
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1/4/2009  6:41 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Sergio, Bayless and their 2009 first rd pick for Lee.

I'd do that quickly.
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1/4/2009  6:43 PM
Ewings I think Lee is a 7-8 million dollar guy if Walsh signs him before the year now he has played himself to 10 million a year. Look at all the guys that make more money than him he put up similar numbers.
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1/4/2009  6:46 PM
Posted by King1:

Ewings I think Lee is a 7-8 million dollar guy if Walsh signs him before the year now he has played himself to 10 million a year. Look at all the guys that make more money than him he put up similar numbers.

Lee is putting up those numbers on a bad team with a dearth of big men. If Lee is on any other team I don't think he puts up those numbers - I hate to say it but I think it's the truth.
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1/4/2009  6:55 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

Stop being a douche-bag... oh wait, that's your role on this site...

Go try to bait someone else, not me. As far as I know, you are allowed to post your opinion on a forum.
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1/4/2009  6:55 PM
cos-

thanks for being fair and saying you liked yesterday;s Lee post.

What i'm saying is that I don;t really care what people think about me so long as it;s fair.

if you read the site you know what I'm about.

Anyway someone posted that wacky Clippers 3 way in my comments section and my sources never confirmed it, so as far as I;m concerned it's a fake trade hence why I never endorsed it.

I'm reporting (as a journalist first blogger second ) that the blazers have a man crush on the Lee which gives donnie some options. they think lee could be a big piece to their puzzle.

obviously some people take things and run with them...
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1/4/2009  7:05 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

Stop being a douche-bag... oh wait, that's your role on this site...

Go try to bait someone else, not me. As far as I know, you are allowed to post your opinion on a forum.

not in the manner you have done.
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1/4/2009  7:30 PM
Posted by tommydee21:

cos-

thanks for being fair and saying you liked yesterday;s Lee post.

What i'm saying is that I don;t really care what people think about me so long as it;s fair.

if you read the site you know what I'm about.

Anyway someone posted that wacky Clippers 3 way in my comments section and my sources never confirmed it, so as far as I;m concerned it's a fake trade hence why I never endorsed it.

I'm reporting (as a journalist first blogger second ) that the blazers have a man crush on the Lee which gives donnie some options. they think lee could be a big piece to their puzzle.

obviously some people take things and run with them...


Now I see what you're saying I just think you don't need to fall back to a (rumour/source/early news break) that you may have gotten right to validate any future opinion. In fact it makes those who disagree with your opinion pounce quicker - like me for example. I guess since you feel the desire to engage people on forums you're going to open yourself to criticism and outright attacks. I assume you understand Knick fans can be a wacky bunch.

Ah, alright, I misunderstood then on the Clipper thing. Thanks for the clarification. I rescind my roasting of that lol.

As to the site I must admit there were several topics early on in the summer I shook my head at so I hadn't continued to go back. The Lee piece was really good though so maybe I'll check in more often.

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1/4/2009  7:58 PM
Lee can get 10 rebounds on a championship team or a bad team. Lee can shoot 55% on any team. I think he points are inflated but nothing else.
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1/4/2009  8:00 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by tommydee21:

cos-

thanks for being fair and saying you liked yesterday;s Lee post.

What i'm saying is that I don;t really care what people think about me so long as it;s fair.

if you read the site you know what I'm about.

Anyway someone posted that wacky Clippers 3 way in my comments section and my sources never confirmed it, so as far as I;m concerned it's a fake trade hence why I never endorsed it.

I'm reporting (as a journalist first blogger second ) that the blazers have a man crush on the Lee which gives donnie some options. they think lee could be a big piece to their puzzle.

obviously some people take things and run with them...


Now I see what you're saying I just think you don't need to fall back to a (rumour/source/early news break) that you may have gotten right to validate any future opinion. In fact it makes those who disagree with your opinion pounce quicker - like me for example. I guess since you feel the desire to engage people on forums you're going to open yourself to criticism and outright attacks. I assume you understand Knick fans can be a wacky bunch.

Ah, alright, I misunderstood then on the Clipper thing. Thanks for the clarification. I rescind my roasting of that lol.

As to the site I must admit there were several topics early on in the summer I shook my head at so I hadn't continued to go back. The Lee piece was really good though so maybe I'll check in more often.

i'm not one of those guys to run and hide...

I appreciate you giving it another chance.
thanks cos

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