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12/28/2008  7:43 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Cosmic:

Oh and TMS I don't know why you want to have it both ways.

You say you're happy with the Jamal trade on one hand - but on the other you lament the trade because we don't have Crawful here jacking up shots.

Which is it?

If you're happy with the trade then acknowledge that he sucked as a player.
If you're not, then, don't say you're happy with the trade...but that you're ticked at fans like me who hated the player.

I don't see what you're getting at when you do that.

where am i lamenting that we don't have Jamal? i said u had to expect this team to struggle down the stretch of games because Jamal was the closest thing to a go to guy this team had before the trades... Nate is now the closest thing we have but he's going to struggle more to get off his shots because he's just as streaky & is height disadvantaged... & where have i ever said i was ticked off at people who hated him? i've disagreed w/ur comments that he was garbage, that's it... why am i not allowed to disagree w/u about that & still like the trade because of the cap flexibility it provides?

like i said before, read the posts before u reply to them.

How would Crawful help us down the stretch of a game tonight? 9 times out of 10 he was the reason we lost games down the stretch....


You can disagree with me over anything you want, there's nothing personal here, I just can't grasp your desire to defend Jamal Crawford of all players. That's all. Then say you're on board with dumping him but then still defend him.

I'm just confused on that.

A game like tonight Crawful could have been his classic 6-19 by the time the 4th q came around. I mean, you're talking as if he was a good player, like he'd been 13-19 come the 4th, hit a few clutch shots, and we win without a thought.

To that potential thought process I gotta say......why have you blocked 90% of Jamal's games out of your head?

I just don't get it.
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12/28/2008  7:44 PM
Posted by Anji:

Crawford>>>>Harrington



LOL, Comics is a funny dude. He is off the team and you are still doing this???

I'm just replying to those that brought him up.

Oh, and, for all that Al stinks the joint up, he's a superior player to Crawful.

What does that tell you? It tells you that Crawful was absolute TRASH.

It amazes me, weeks after the bum is gone, suddenly people are bringing him up as if only we had him we'd win tonight's game.

Uh, ya, if that makes some feel better to say that, then so be it.
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12/28/2008  7:51 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Cosmic:

Oh and TMS I don't know why you want to have it both ways.

You say you're happy with the Jamal trade on one hand - but on the other you lament the trade because we don't have Crawful here jacking up shots.

Which is it?

If you're happy with the trade then acknowledge that he sucked as a player.
If you're not, then, don't say you're happy with the trade...but that you're ticked at fans like me who hated the player.

I don't see what you're getting at when you do that.

where am i lamenting that we don't have Jamal? i said u had to expect this team to struggle down the stretch of games because Jamal was the closest thing to a go to guy this team had before the trades... Nate is now the closest thing we have but he's going to struggle more to get off his shots because he's just as streaky & is height disadvantaged... & where have i ever said i was ticked off at people who hated him? i've disagreed w/ur comments that he was garbage, that's it... why am i not allowed to disagree w/u about that & still like the trade because of the cap flexibility it provides?

like i said before, read the posts before u reply to them.

How would Crawful help us down the stretch of a game tonight? 9 times out of 10 he was the reason we lost games down the stretch....


You can disagree with me over anything you want, there's nothing personal here, I just can't grasp your desire to defend Jamal Crawford of all players. That's all. Then say you're on board with dumping him but then still defend him.

I'm just confused on that.

A game like tonight Crawful could have been his classic 6-19 by the time the 4th q came around. I mean, you're talking as if he was a good player, like he'd been 13-19 come the 4th, hit a few clutch shots, and we win without a thought.

To that potential thought process I gotta say......why have you blocked 90% of Jamal's games out of your head?

I just don't get it.

look there's no point in me even bothering to explain my position to you again because you're extremely biased against the guy as it is... we've been there & done that on the Jamal issue & you still hold to the fact that somehow i am lamenting the fact that he's no longer a NY Knick... so why bother wasting my time again?

where the hell do u see me talking as if Jamal woulda been the savior tonight? where am i saying we would have definitely won this game if he were still here? seriously, this is getting old... i got nothing against u personally but i would appreciate it if u would either represent my opinions the way i write them or just don't comment on them at all.
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12/28/2008  8:05 PM
Oh and I don't if anybody here feels this way, but Melo is a franchise player. He might be at the end of the Kobe/Wade/Duncan/ect table, but if the knicks ever get a chance to get that guy I for one would be happy.

I always like watching Melos game. I think he is pound for pound the best offensive player in the league.......... or at the very least as good as kobe or duncan.
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12/28/2008  11:25 PM
Posted by TMS:


look there's no point in me even bothering to explain my position to you again because you're extremely biased against the guy as it is... we've been there & done that on the Jamal issue & you still hold to the fact that somehow i am lamenting the fact that he's no longer a NY Knick... so why bother wasting my time again?

where the hell do u see me talking as if Jamal woulda been the savior tonight? where am i saying we would have definitely won this game if he were still here? seriously, this is getting old... i got nothing against u personally but i would appreciate it if u would either represent my opinions the way i write them or just don't comment on them at all.

The thing is...I don't understand your position. A Crawful topic came up weeks ago, I chimed in, I found you trashing my opinions in it. So I figured you're a Crawful fan.

You've since said you love that he's been traded, but, are still ticked off that I trash him. So, yeah, I'm confused about that.

Nothing more... It doesn't really matter, but the clown's name keeps coming up, and I find myself arguing with you that he stinks and you arguing otherwise but them reminding me you're happy he was traded.

I just don't get that...but no biggie. Again tonight, he wasn't brought up by me, he was brought up by someone suggesting if only we had him we'd have a clutch player making shots to win tonights game, which is something I think is ludicrous, and I said as much, and find myself yet again in a bizzaro world argument over a one dimension volume chucker who never won crap with us while he was here but would suddenly be our saviour if he was...and I trashed that POV.

And now, my head spins.



I really don't know WTF is going on with these Crawful convos. I just see someone bring him up and praise him and I trash that because I think he's a crappy player and then I start getting attacked lol and told I'm obsessed with him. LOL I don't get it. Yet, I never said I'm the sharpest tool in the shed so go figure.
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12/28/2008  11:26 PM
Posted by Anji:

Oh and I don't if anybody here feels this way, but Melo is a franchise player. He might be at the end of the Kobe/Wade/Duncan/ect table, but if the knicks ever get a chance to get that guy I for one would be happy.

I always like watching Melos game. I think he is pound for pound the best offensive player in the league.......... or at the very least as good as kobe or duncan.

He's on the fringe no doubt. If he is all you get then you've failed. If you get LeBron and Melo you've scored.
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12/28/2008  11:34 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

Again tonight, he wasn't brought up by me, he was brought up by someone suggesting if only we had him we'd have a clutch player making shots to win tonights game, which is something I think is ludicrous

thing is, no one ever said this... u'r dreaming this up outta nowhere... go back & read over what was said in this thread between myself & BlueSeats... if you're referring to some other discussion i'm not aware of it... the only thing that was said was that i had expected this team to struggle down the stretch of games once they made that trade because they lacked a go to guy on offense & Jamal was the closest thing we had to 1 when he was here... i never said we would have won the game if he was here, i never said i'm sorry he's gone, i never said i wish that trade were never made... ur reading way too deeply into this because of your inherent hatred towards the guy & inserting your own interpretations into my words.

once again, i don't care if u hate Jamal or not, i just don't AGREE w/all of the points you make about him... it's a difference of opinion, nothing more nothing less... once again, i am happy we made the trade & wish Jamal well whereever he goes... i'm just making observations about this current team, not pining for his return.
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12/28/2008  11:42 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Cosmic:

Again tonight, he wasn't brought up by me, he was brought up by someone suggesting if only we had him we'd have a clutch player making shots to win tonights game, which is something I think is ludicrous

thing is, no one ever said this... u'r dreaming this up outta nowhere... go back & read over what was said in this thread between myself & BlueSeats... if you're referring to some other discussion i'm not aware of it...

Bro....

Posted by tkf:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

must be nice to have a "go to" guy.

like i said when the Jamal trade went down, the Knicks will miss that go to guy down the stretch of games when they need offense... i was happy they made the trade but you had to expect this.


I agree.








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12/28/2008  11:43 PM
Posted by TMS:

once again, i don't care if u hate Jamal or not, i just don't AGREE w/all of the points you make about him... it's a difference of opinion, nothing more nothing less... once again, i am happy we made the trade & wish Jamal well whereever he goes... i'm just making observations about this current team, not pining for his return.

That's all well and good.... and good night.
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12/29/2008  12:13 AM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Cosmic:

Again tonight, he wasn't brought up by me, he was brought up by someone suggesting if only we had him we'd have a clutch player making shots to win tonights game, which is something I think is ludicrous

thing is, no one ever said this... u'r dreaming this up outta nowhere... go back & read over what was said in this thread between myself & BlueSeats... if you're referring to some other discussion i'm not aware of it...

Bro....

Posted by tkf:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

must be nice to have a "go to" guy.

like i said when the Jamal trade went down, the Knicks will miss that go to guy down the stretch of games when they need offense... i was happy they made the trade but you had to expect this.


I agree.








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how is that different than what i just said?
the only thing that was said was that i had expected this team to struggle down the stretch of games once they made that trade because they lacked a go to guy on offense & Jamal was the closest thing we had to 1 when he was here... i never said we would have won the game if he was here, i never said i'm sorry he's gone, i never said i wish that trade were never made
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