Posted by tkf:

so after just 3 games and a 1-2 record we came to this conclusion:

We stink
We have no hope
Bring back mebury

wow, what patience.

We all knew this team was flawed, we knew it would take some time to get mikes system going, we know changes are going to have to happen, but after three games, all of that is thrown out the window... LOL... OK..

patience for the players is different than patience for the front office.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 11-03-2008 10:05 AM]

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by PresIke:

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

su...Mark Jackson?

C'mon man...

i think it's backwards logic. d'antoni, imho, is not a rebuilding coach. his hiring was another starphuck move. it's a waste to have him here with this roster. they need to make major moves otherwise he's going to get frustrated lb style. if d'antoni is the hire, they should've continued the expiring deal philosophy, but this time, targetting players that would work together.

with jackson, that would've been a true signal of a rebuild - ala the raptors hiring sam mitchell 4 years ago. look at how he grew into the job. i only bring up mark jackson b/c he was a finalist for the job.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by PresIke:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by PresIke:

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

su...Mark Jackson?

C'mon man...

i think it's backwards logic. d'antoni, imho, is not a rebuilding coach. his hiring was another starphuck move. it's a waste to have him here with this roster. they need to make major moves otherwise he's going to get frustrated lb style. if d'antoni is the hire, they should've continued the expiring deal philosophy, but this time, targetting players that would work together.

with jackson, that would've been a true signal of a rebuild - ala the raptors hiring sam mitchell 4 years ago. look at how he grew into the job. i only bring up mark jackson b/c he was a finalist for the job.

I dunno. I think D'Antoni wants to show that he can build a team. I don't think this is an LB situation because he and Walsh are working together. I just think that the idea that you bring a good coach in when the team is ready is not necessarily something I agree with at all.

As a former teacher, I will tell you that having a veteran who commands respect and creates a good culture is vital. A novice teacher or coach is less likely to know how to do this, and from what I gather, Jax was just not ready for the job.

Hiring a complete rookie coach for a "rebuild" is very dangerous. D'Antoni knows the situation, don't you think?

You seem to be assuming that he didn't know what he was getting into, or didn't care because of the $$$ or something. I think you have to give him more credit than that at this point.

Steph is still here, and look at the problems it is causing.

Getting a coach to establish a culture and system is tremendously vital to rebuilding. They are assessing players so they can make more educated decisions down the road.

So, D'Antoni got pissed about the calls for Steph.

How many fans actually disagree with him? It's really a small percentage.

We ARE rebuilding, and I think that's obvious, otherwise why is Steph on the bench.

Since D'Antoni is the one who has him on the bench and inactive, how is it that he is not aware that he is doing a rebuilding job here?

i didn't mean lb like the media war w/ players and his gm. i meant not seeing a set rotation and constantly jumbling lineups to find something that works. game 3 into the season and he was talking about lack of energy. what happens after 50 more games with this media?

Posted by djsunyc:

i see your points ike, but i don't think it matters b/c no more than 2 players on this current roster will be here in 2010.

Posted by misterearl:

The way some of chicken liver sized hearts are running around parroting the press you would think that the Knicks are doomed forever after three freakin' games.

Damn, can somebody around here grow a pair?

This makeover edition of the Knicks roster is in the first stages of ripping out the moldy drywall (Curry), overhauling the plumbing (Marbury) and switching out the septic system (James).

Walsh is already headed to Home Depot to check out the paint colors.

C'mon...

Posted by misterearl:

2010

The question is not whether you want them to win the next game. We are all patriotic Knicks supporters. There are no blue Knicks fans, or orange Knicks fans. No conservative or liberal Knicks fans. Just Knicks fans.

The question is how many years you give the Walsh/D'Antoni paradigm shift to cohere?

Walsh has 4 years. D'Antoni has two years. The fans won't be giving them that time, that the time Dolan's normally has set up in his mind. I give Dolan one year and half before he steps into the picture.