Posted by 4949:

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by 4949:

Posted by BasketballJones:

I think Oohah and 30andOverClub are right - this is Walsh's policy not to buy out contracts, and not Dolan's. No one has produced any quotes from Dolan saying he wouldn't do buyouts, or from anyone saying that Dolan refused to do any buyouts.

I wish I could find the damn quotes that were made in the newspapers (or wherever I saw them) and then question were they came from. I go based on what I read and see and have been known to quote others accordingly. But if producing direct quotes is gonna be something important around here, then LOL on that one. I don't think anyone here lies about what they saw and I don't think we should start now. And besides, how often are we gonna get a direct quote from dolan? Rare, rare, rare.

Sometimes people make claims and are called on it. They find quotes to back up what they say. You could try google.

So your calling me a liar? Are you guys trying to make me less credible here or something? This isn't about finding a quote is it?

Of course I'm not calling you a liar. I'm just asking for some sources to back up what you say. Why is that a problem?

Posted by 4949:

Okay, here's a few things that were said. Not in the exact physical source I saw it in, but this is a part of what was going around. Like I said, it's hard to get a direct quote from dolan anymore, so we have to rely on insiders. And don't ask me who the insiders are.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/70970

http://www.nyknicksbeat.net/2008/09/knicks-want-to-cut-marbury-and-his.html

So there you have it. I wasn't wrong or making it up.

Those seem to be Marbury-specific quotes.

..while the Knicks would prefer to part ways with the problematic point guard, it is believed that Garden chairman James Dolan does not want to pay Marbury his full salary just to waive him and let him play for another team this season.

Nowhere does it say he would not buy out any player. He may not want to, but I don't see a direct statement to that effect.


Marbury stands to make 21.9 million dollars. That's a lot different than cutting Roberson who will make 800 thousand.



[Edited by - basketballjones on 10-25-2008 18:19]

I still can't understand why they don't cut James. Has he ever done anything as a Knick? What are the chances that he ever will do something? Would any other team trade for him?

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by 4949:

Okay, here's a few things that were said. Not in the exact physical source I saw it in, but this is a part of what was going around. Like I said, it's hard to get a direct quote from dolan anymore, so we have to rely on insiders. And don't ask me who the insiders are.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/70970

http://www.nyknicksbeat.net/2008/09/knicks-want-to-cut-marbury-and-his.html

So there you have it. I wasn't wrong or making it up.

Those seem to be Marbury-specific quotes.

..while the Knicks would prefer to part ways with the problematic point guard, it is believed that Garden chairman James Dolan does not want to pay Marbury his full salary just to waive him and let him play for another team this season.

Nowhere does it say he would not buy out any player. He may not want to, but I don't see a direct statement to that effect.


Marbury stands to make 21.9 million dollars. That's a lot different than cutting Roberson who will make 800 thousand.



[Edited by - basketballjones on 10-25-2008 18:19]

Well, how else do you interpret it when it's put into the statements it's being put into? There was this notion that dolan would not allow Walsh to buy anyone else out. And I did see it more in those terms in another article, just as a general statement, but I don't know were to find it.

Are you guys done trying to interrogate me for exact quotes?

There seems to be more evidence that Walsh is the one who is opposed to buying anyone out.

"I've been doing this a long time," Walsh said in the Post. "I can't remember buying out a contract. I'd try to trade him. That isn't good management if you have to do it."

(regarding Marbury)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3611773

So if there can't be any buyouts, it's probably because Walsh is empowered to make these decisions. I'd bet that Dolan could be talked into buying out Roberson, and possibly James as well, but it looks like that isn't something Walsh would do. He'd rather do it via some kind of trade.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 10-25-2008 18:43]