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10/9/2008  6:02 PM
Meanwhile, as of today, the S&P 500 is 41% lower than it was one year ago.
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10/9/2008  6:45 PM
It is really sad to see McCain and Palin try to invoke racial hatred to win this election. I look at the conservative websites and the things these guys are saying is really scary. It is sad that people are filled with so many prejudices that they will believe anything.

What I find funny is that they shout let's kill Obama due to Ayers, but they seem to have no problem with the white University that employs Ayers and allows him to support his family. Nor do they have a problem with the Republicans that financially supported the education board that Ayers and Obama served on. I guess since those people are white, we can be sure they aren't terrorists but Barack "Hussein" Obama we have to have doubts about because he has the funny name and is black. No wonder the rest of the world thinks Americans are idiots. If OBama was white, no one would care about this just like no one cares that Palin got prayed over by a minister that believes in witchcraft (or something like that; I did not care enough to even learn all the details) or that McCain was "palling" around with Keating, who cost Americans billions. But since he is a black man, McCain/Palin want to play on prejudicial fears that Obama must be some secret black Panther/muslim extremist. If it wasn't so pathetic, I would be mad. But really all I feel is sadness. I cannot wait until Nov. 4. I hope all the racist people angry about a black president leave American just like they have been claiming. We will be better off without them.
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10/9/2008  7:04 PM
I visited Strongsville, Ohio before because of business. Those people are very small minded around that area. Not very surprised.
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10/9/2008  7:04 PM
Posted by TheGame:

It is really sad to see McCain and Palin try to invoke racial hatred to win this election. I look at the conservative websites and the things these guys are saying is really scary. It is sad that people are filled with so many prejudices that they will believe anything.

What I find funny is that they shout let's kill Obama due to Ayers, but they seem to have no problem with the white University that employs Ayers and allows him to support his family. Nor do they have a problem with the Republicans that financially supported the education board that Ayers and Obama served on. I guess since those people are white, we can be sure they aren't terrorists but Barack "Hussein" Obama we have to have doubts about because he has the funny name and is black. No wonder the rest of the world thinks Americans are idiots. If OBama was white, no one would care about this just like no one cares that Palin got prayed over by a minister that believes in witchcraft (or something like that; I did not care enough to even learn all the details) or that McCain was "palling" around with Keating, who cost Americans billions. But since he is a black man, McCain/Palin want to play on prejudicial fears that Obama must be some secret black Panther/muslim extremist. If it wasn't so pathetic, I would be mad. But really all I feel is sadness. I cannot wait until Nov. 4. I hope all the racist people angry about a black president leave American just like they have been claiming. We will be better off without them.

Sadness my friend? Lucky you, I feel revulsion. Everytime I see one of those two faces I feel like throwing up, and I am not even black. I can only imagine what black people are feeling at this point. So much for being the greatest country on earth. We havent even made it out of the dark ages yet.
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10/10/2008  11:19 AM
The elephant is officially in the room; the McCain ticket has abandoned all pretense and are running completely on race.

There's a deeper more dangerous subtext that is creeping into this election, if it hasn't completely enveloped it already. Not only are they practically positioning Obama as leader of his own sleeper cell, but they are encouraging this "Obama is the anti-Christ", villain narrative that will embolden these racists to 'do something about it.' There is a healthy part of that base that will conclude its their "patriotic duty" to take a shot at Obama --- hence "kill him."

Very dangerous rhetoric and language has entered the presidential lexicon. But we cant be naive and say we weren't expecting it. Its going to get much worse. Remember, the running on racism strategy has a 100% success rate. This is America were talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R77IJsNceY4

Ol' coon ass, beg massa to sleep on the floor, house boy. The most pathetic scene I have seen in quite some time. Notice how he looks up to McCain with reverence and begs him to continue this modern day lynching.



[Edited by - sebstar on 10-10-2008 11:25 AM]

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10/10/2008  11:35 AM
The economic free fall is siphoning some of the poison out though. Obama's "connection" to Ayers, who committed his acts when Obama was eight, means more than the American economy collapsing?
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10/10/2008  7:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YIq5Q15L1o

This is just sad.
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10/10/2008  9:53 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:



Some McCain Palin supporters...

[Edited by - basketballjones on 10-08-2008 23:08]

A scary embarrassment of humans.
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10/10/2008  10:36 PM
A scary embarrassment of humans.


hey BRIGGS weren't you telling me just last week how racism ended 30 years ago? What is your opinion DuJour?

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10/10/2008  10:53 PM
Posted by oohah:
A scary embarrassment of humans.


hey BRIGGS weren't you telling me just last week how racism ended 30 years ago? What is your opinion DuJour?

oohah

I never said there wasn't racism-- i said it has improved by leaps and bounds in the last 50 years. There are going to be people from every race who are going to act like that until the end of time. I think that the lead that Obama has speaks volumes of where race relations have come from. If you don't believe that--go back 30-50 years in time ---Obama wouldve never been a consideration for President
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10/11/2008  10:35 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BasketballJones:



Some McCain Palin supporters...

[Edited by - basketballjones on 10-08-2008 23:08]

A scary embarrassment of humans.

LOL. "When did you hear about ACORN? Ah, Today" "Palin has conducted more interviews than OBama"

The sad part is these people don't even see how race is skewing their views. Anyone who would make an argument that Sarah Palin is more qualified than Obama to run anything other than a hunting expedition is an idiot who has no idea how much racial stereotypes control their thinking.

Obama will be the best thing for America because White America can finally see that the world is not going to fall apart with a black man in charge. Maybe then this country can move forward and stop all this racial hatred.
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10/11/2008  11:45 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:



McCain and Palin (and Hannity) are playing with fire. They may not be able to control the anger they are fomenting.



[Edited by - basketballjones on 10-09-2008 17:57]



You said it. This is what happens when you play these type of games. It is hard to reel it back in.
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10/11/2008  11:53 AM
You can't run from your fear tactics when they blow up on you.

http://www.cnn.com
At a rally in Minnesota on Friday, a woman told McCain: "I don't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's an Arab."

McCain shook his head and said, "No ma'am, no ma'am. He's a decent family man...[a] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues. That's what this campaign is all about."

One man at the rally said he was "scared of an Obama presidency." McCain later told the man he should not fear Obama.

"I want to be president of the United States, and I don't want Obama to be," he said. "But I have to tell you, I have to tell you, he is a decent person, and a person that you do not have to be scared as President of the United States."

McCain's response was met with boos from the crowd.

When asked about these outbursts, McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said that he didn't know who those people were and if they were there as supporters or to disrupt the rallies.

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10/11/2008  12:38 PM
McCain's response to that woman was a disgrace. I'm paraphrasing but he basically said, "No Obama is not an Arab. He's actually a good man." It's as if in his mind the two are mutually exclusive.
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10/11/2008  1:25 PM
I'm supporting Obama, and yes, it seems like Mccain is realing, which is good, and I felt the same as what you feel about that Bonn. However, that woman was trying to say that Obama was a bad person or a terrorist and Arab was her noun to label it. McCain corrected that, but this is a big sign of damage control.

I betcha a million dollars McCain regrets picking Palin.
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10/11/2008  1:56 PM
Hmmm. I'd have to hear it again. Either way, though, the McCain camp could have stopped the spreading of false ideas about Obama's religion a long time ago if they'd wanted to.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 10-11-2008 1:56 PM]
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10/11/2008  1:57 PM
^Agreed.
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10/11/2008  3:51 PM
McCain has got to be the most clueless person in America. What did he think was going to happen once he started labeling OBama as a domestic terrorist. The Republican base is made up of (1) rich people; (2) pro-lifers; (3) strong conservatives; (4) and nutjob racist. What do you think those racist are going to do when you tell them a BLACK domestic terrorist is going to take over the white house. They are going to riot, plot killings, and commit hate crimes. What do you think black people are going to do once they feel threatened. THey are going to riot and commit hate crimes. So McCain as his lastest brillant political stunt starts the beginnings of a race war in this country. You might think I am exaggerating but if McCain and Palin had kept going by the end of the week somebody, somewhere would have been killed over this foolishness. The lightbulb finally went off in his mind, which is why he is now trying to tone it down and tell people that they don't have to fear an Obama presidency.

People say we cannot take 4 more years of Bush, we might not be able to take 3 more weeks of McCain. Two weeks ago his bumbling almost destroyed the economic package and now he almost starts a race war. Who knows what he is going to do next week.

[Edited by - thegame on 11-10-2008 15:53]
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10/11/2008  5:36 PM
I thought McCain handled that woman quite well. He cut her off and stated for a second time that Obama was a decent man. As much as I want Obama to win, I still have to compliment McCain for doing what he did. I think McCain is appalled at what is happening with this issue of labeling Obama a terrorist because of his name.
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10/11/2008  6:46 PM
Posted by Markji:

I thought McCain handled that woman quite well. He cut her off and stated for a second time that Obama was a decent man. As much as I want Obama to win, I still have to compliment McCain for doing what he did. I think McCain is appalled at what is happening with this issue of labeling Obama a terrorist because of his name.

I agree. I know he realized things were getting out of hand and I commend him for doing the right thing and trying to tone things down. My point was he had a total lack of foresight as to what was going to happen. For someone who likes to stress his experience, I find him shockingly inexperienced when it comes to handling national matters that impact people beyond his base voters.
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