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9/9/2008  5:40 PM
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Posted by Allanfan20:

Bip, what do you realistically expect from Crawford, this coming season?

Much of the same. I think D'Antoni's system will put him in position to be a great scorer. Defense will remain unchanged. Shot selection will remain relatively the same. D'Antoni's system is built on ball movement so this may help him to decide when to shoot and when not, but I'm not sold that you can change that much after 9 years of no discipline and having a coach that preaches quick shots.

He is what he is. He will be placed in positions to be a dominant scorer in this offense. 22-25 pts a game is possible. But without the D he's just a glorified sixth man and we will still need to build a team that covers his weaknesses instead of having a position that we can trust on both ends of the court for 35-40 minutes a night.

if Jamal has a 22-25 ppg type season & u still consider him a glorified 6th man, then the same must also be said for guys like Rashard Lewis & Carmelo Anthony, neither of which play a lick of D either but have all the athletic ability to do so... let's stop w/the double standards when it comes to judging our own players... if Jamal improves on his shot selection this season & makes a conscious effort to drive more to the lane & get to the foul line, i'd take that in a heartbeat.

First of all you have never heard me say a good word about either of those two, so please leave me out of your double standard fiesta. I would not put Carmelo in the same category because he does bring 3 categories. Scoring, rebounding and passing from his position. Rashard is similar. Jamal gives me 2. Scoring and passing, and his passing is suspect because of his shot selection. To make it out of this category for me, he really needs to step it up on D. Until then, he's a great scorer, who brings it on offense but kills you down the stretch of games because of his complete lack of attention to defense

so u consider Melo & Lewis as glorified 6th men too? i'm just trying to understand your standards here... a 22-25 ppg player to me is way more than just a glorified 6th man, i don't care how bad his defense is... Michael Redd falls into that same category as does Gilbert Arenas, both are legit starters in this league... if Jamal takes his game to that next level i don't see how any Knick fan could begrudge him the credit for doing so.

What I'm saying is I don't put Jamal in their class just because he scores 25 ppg.

I love the guy but he can either be Crawesome or just Crawok. I don't scoff over 25 points a game, and I don't scoff at glorified sixth men. If he's putting up those types of points he's definitely valuable. But if he isn't playing defense he is having little effect on our record, just like he has for the last 3 years. Nothing will have changed except an offense that puts him in position to score more points.
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9/9/2008  6:01 PM
i disagree w/u on this one bro... if Jamal can become a consistent scoring threat for this team it surely will have an impact on winning games... his problem right now is more or less his inconsistency & streaky shooting... if he sets his mind to drive to the hole more & increase his FT attempts per game averages, he can up his current scoring avg. of 20 ppg to that 22-25 ppg range easily w/his excellent FT shooting, & that to me will negate some of his shortcomings on defense... i think adding some defensive minded players is a better strategy at this point than expecting someone like Jamal or say Curry to suddenly & miraculously become defensive guys... it just ain't gonna happen.
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9/9/2008  6:44 PM
Posted by TMS:

i disagree w/u on this one bro... if Jamal can become a consistent scoring threat for this team it surely will have an impact on winning games... his problem right now is more or less his inconsistency & streaky shooting... if he sets his mind to drive to the hole more & increase his FT attempts per game averages, he can up his current scoring avg. of 20 ppg to that 22-25 ppg range easily w/his excellent FT shooting, & that to me will negate some of his shortcomings on defense... i think adding some defensive minded players is a better strategy at this point than expecting someone like Jamal or say Curry to suddenly & miraculously become defensive guys... it just ain't gonna happen.

So we disagree. That's fine, I don't hate you for it. I hate you for other things.

The guy scored 21 a game last year so 22-25 isn't out of the realm of possibility. Consistency will help us of course but I'm just not sold on the fact that we are going to get it. I think his scoring will go up because of the free flowing offense and because he gets a couple more shots per game. But of course this is all speculation. I'm hoping for more of course. But as you said I think the Knicks will have to acquire defenders in order to improve our team drastically because like you said guys like Craw probably will not. In the scenario you paint this makes him a high scoring role player. Not that this is entirely negative, just that it doesn't make the guy Crawesome like he wants. Without defense we could consider him Crawsolid or Crawgoodscorer.

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9/9/2008  8:08 PM
If Jamal, can.......Jamal can't plain and simple we have been waiting for him to improve for 7 years now and he never does, he is to stupid to realize his talents.

Jamal past three season 41.6% 40% 41.0%

Your comparing Crawford to players

Lewis shots it at 46% and shot 46.7, 46.1, 45%
Melo shot 48%, 47.6%, 49.%

No one plays defense thats true but when you shot worse than just about every guard in the entire nba you better bring something to the table. Facts speak for themselves, he never plays in the playoffs and he is always on the leagues worst teams. Time to recognize the guy for what he is all flash no substance
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9/9/2008  8:35 PM
I think Jamal and this team has been subjected to some of the worst leadership and coaching over the last few years. That's not just an excuse, it's a FACT! Now we have a chance to see this team start to develop a real identity, plan and pride in playing. IF THESE GUYS DON'T respond to this situation, which I would consider the 1st legit Coach and GM they've had in a while, then I would say that's the final nail in the coffin.

I believe that we'll see most of these guys buy in and show pride. I believe they'll respond and play harder on both ends. I also believe that Mike will set things up for them to succeed in a way that we haven't seen from Isiah or Brown before him. We likely won't see Mike play guys that shouldn't be playing just to cover Walsh's but. The reason is that Walsh and Mike will both be on the same page and they'll look to play the right players.

We've all questioned the lineups and rotations we've seen the last few years. It often defied logic. Playing Zach with Curry. Leaving Lee to rust on the bench. Playing Q long minutes when it was clear he was out of shape and not capable of getting the job done. etc., etc.
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9/9/2008  9:19 PM
Posted by TMS:

i disagree w/u on this one bro... if Jamal can become a consistent scoring threat for this team it surely will have an impact on winning games... his problem right now is more or less his inconsistency & streaky shooting... if he sets his mind to drive to the hole more & increase his FT attempts per game averages, he can up his current scoring avg. of 20 ppg to that 22-25 ppg range easily w/his excellent FT shooting, & that to me will negate some of his shortcomings on defense... i think adding some defensive minded players is a better strategy at this point than expecting someone like Jamal or say Curry to suddenly & miraculously become defensive guys... it just ain't gonna happen.

if jamal averages 22-25 ppg (by virtue of a system that allows more possessions, and, hence, shots per game) at his usual 40% rate will you consider him to be an improved player, or the same player greenlighted to take more shots?

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9/9/2008  10:31 PM
Mike's system is predicated on creating the BEST shots possible. I think that not just Jamal, but many of the Knicks players will see an improvement in their FG % over the next few seasons. I think it's often masked by the low FG%, but Jamal actually has always shot much better when he's taken shots in the flow of the offense and when he's got his feet set.

I expect his FG% will improve when he's used properly and there are far less opportunites to do his And1 stuff or to take wild shots. If he's taking relaxed open shots in rhythm he's gonna hit a higher %.
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9/9/2008  10:35 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Mike's system is predicated on creating the BEST shots possible. I think that not just Jamal, but many of the Knicks players will see an improvement in their FG % over the next few seasons. I think it's often masked by the low FG%, but Jamal actually has always shot much better when he's taken shots in the flow of the offense and when he's got his feet set.

I expect his FG% will improve when he's used properly and there are far less opportunites to do his And1 stuff or to take wild shots. If he's taking relaxed open shots in rhythm he's gonna hit a higher %.

How does someone get the "best shot" in 7 seconds or less? D'Antoni's strategy is to chuck as many shots as quickly as possible. He's not about efficiency.
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9/9/2008  10:42 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Mike's system is predicated on creating the BEST shots possible. I think that not just Jamal, but many of the Knicks players will see an improvement in their FG % over the next few seasons. I think it's often masked by the low FG%, but Jamal actually has always shot much better when he's taken shots in the flow of the offense and when he's got his feet set.

I expect his FG% will improve when he's used properly and there are far less opportunites to do his And1 stuff or to take wild shots. If he's taking relaxed open shots in rhythm he's gonna hit a higher %.

this looks eerily similar to the stuff you were posting about how isiah's "quick" offense was going to maximize everyone's potential. you weren't active here during brown's reign but i'm pretty confident you thought his system would yield great riches for all too.

don't take this wrong because i mean it sincerely: i envy your eternal optimism. you must wake up feeling simply fantastic every morning.
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9/9/2008  10:45 PM
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How does someone get the "best shot" in 7 seconds or less? D'Antoni's strategy is to chuck as many shots as quickly as possible. He's not about efficiency.

Phoenix was the most efficient shooting team in the league last year.

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9/9/2008  10:50 PM
he turns 29 in march. and he can opt out. is jamal crawford really a part of the long term vision here? i think it's in every knicks' fan's best interest for jamal to play really good so walsh can get something good in return. otherwise, if the plan is to keep him here for the next 5+ years, then what exactly is this team trying to accomplish? all the eggs are in the 2010 basket...

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9/9/2008  10:52 PM
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How does someone get the "best shot" in 7 seconds or less? D'Antoni's strategy is to chuck as many shots as quickly as possible. He's not about efficiency.

Phoenix was the most efficient shooting team in the league last year.

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9/9/2008  11:11 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
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Mike's system is predicated on creating the BEST shots possible. I think that not just Jamal, but many of the Knicks players will see an improvement in their FG % over the next few seasons. I think it's often masked by the low FG%, but Jamal actually has always shot much better when he's taken shots in the flow of the offense and when he's got his feet set.

I expect his FG% will improve when he's used properly and there are far less opportunites to do his And1 stuff or to take wild shots. If he's taking relaxed open shots in rhythm he's gonna hit a higher %.

this looks eerily similar to the stuff you were posting about how isiah's "quick" offense was going to maximize everyone's potential. you weren't active here during brown's reign but i'm pretty confident you thought his system would yield great riches for all too.

don't take this wrong because i mean it sincerely: i envy your eternal optimism. you must wake up feeling simply fantastic every morning.

Thanks to Andrew for pointing out how efficient Mike's teams have been.

I have been here since 2004!!! I caught all of Brown's reign of terror. I was hopeful that Brown would do what he should've done, but he didn't. He had an agenda since day one to supplant Isiah, it failed and the team suffered. If we had a different GM than Isiah maybe it could've worked with Brown, but that wasn't the case.

The thing is that yeah I had high hopes for what Isiah had "promised" he was going to do. If he had the skill and fortitude to actually see it thru , I believe it would've worked. There was nothing wrong with the offense on paper, it was the failure to execute and teach the principles. Remember he didn't invent all of that stuff, he just borrowed the concepts from many of the greatest coaches ever. i'm fully aware of what those concepts and plays were and what they can accomplish when done right. Isiah abandoned his own plan, cuz he couldn't get the players to buy in nor execute them.

I remain hopeful that Mike and Walsh will be successful in getting the job done. Don't be so sure that i'm reacting merely out of some optimistic view without regard to reality. I assure you that i'm well grounded in reality and my views are thought out. that doesn't mean things will work out this time, but then it doesn't mean I was wrong to be hopeful that Brown would be more successful either. I had sound reasons. isiah's concept's were proven and the basis for many successful teams. He may have been the weak link, just as Brown made himself out to be ineffective by refusing to put his all into his job. I don't believe we'll have that problem again with Mike and Walsh nor the players.
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9/10/2008  1:15 AM
We will see. Jamal had a very good season shooting the ball when he didn't take those 3's at the top of the arch. If MikeD is really about getting guys open shots were they can make them I believe he is going to have a great season.

Alot of guys who don't like Jamal seem to be personally invested in what he is not, but when there is team playing it's about picking each other up. Is Jason Richardson suddenly a loser because the Bobcats went backwards with him??? Or is he a player like Jamal who isnt meant to carry a team, but help a superstar like BD carry a team.......... I personally feel like Jamal basically having Marbury and Hinrich as the best players he has played with in 8 seasons has more to do with missing the playoffs then anything else.



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9/10/2008  1:35 AM
Very good season shooting the ball? Looking at his percentages season by season, they are about the same. After 9 seasons and at 29 years old, he's not going to break out anything new. He is what he is - a streak shooting guard with no defense who is best suited off the bench.
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9/10/2008  8:15 AM
GKFv2, Mike's system is not about shooting as quickly as possible. Its about getting into your offense quickly before the defense has time to setup. As the shot clock winds down the chances for a good shot go down.
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9/10/2008  10:11 AM
Nix: you know I love you and that I appreciate your posts but I have to agree with BlueSeats on this one. You sound the same as last year. We are all once again hoping right along with you that all that you say is true. But we've heard it all before. That's why people are so harsh towards Jamal. I love Jamal but I have to be harsh. We've heard the talk, it's time to produce. People have been waiting for years for him to fix his shot selection, go to the hoop, play defense and he has shown no improvement in any of those categories. Fans are wondering why this year is different? Mike is here, hopefully this will be the last of his excuses and he will just go out and get it done.
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9/10/2008  12:48 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Nix: you know I love you and that I appreciate your posts but I have to agree with BlueSeats on this one. You sound the same as last year. We are all once again hoping right along with you that all that you say is true. But we've heard it all before. That's why people are so harsh towards Jamal. I love Jamal but I have to be harsh. We've heard the talk, it's time to produce. People have been waiting for years for him to fix his shot selection, go to the hoop, play defense and he has shown no improvement in any of those categories. Fans are wondering why this year is different? Mike is here, hopefully this will be the last of his excuses and he will just go out and get it done.

Well I didn't deny that I've been optimistic, but that has more to do with how I tend to comment. I look for the soundness of the concepts and in my estimation there was NOTHING wrong with those concepts. The problem laid with LB and Isiah in executing those concepts. When Isiah tried to have the players run his offense, he gave up REAL QUICK, rather than stick to his guns and demand that the players conform to his system. He is the one that gave up on his "quick" offense. Now if he didn't have the determination to stick with it, then why would the players ever try to change? LB gave up in Pre Season!!! IMO both coaches were too worried about being embarrassed to make the tough call to stick to their guns and only play the guys that showed they wanted to do the right thing.

Also look at the other poor decisions they both made as coach. Isiah's personnel decisions matched LB's. All the roster flipping and inconsistency. I can understand some degree of punishment to create player accountability, but they often punished the hardworking players instead of the bad ones. ie. David Lee. Then they kept playing a guy like Q when he didn't deserve to play. The whole Steph fiasco. The way he forced Zach into the SL when it made no sense BB wise.

My point is that I never anticipated such poor decision making at the start of any of those seasons. I still believe that Mike can do better, IF he doesn't do what LB and Isiah did. There's some talent here to work with. Some of these guys will work hard and follow instruction and I expect that he'll use them and not the guys who won't.
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9/10/2008  4:38 PM
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i disagree w/u on this one bro... if Jamal can become a consistent scoring threat for this team it surely will have an impact on winning games... his problem right now is more or less his inconsistency & streaky shooting... if he sets his mind to drive to the hole more & increase his FT attempts per game averages, he can up his current scoring avg. of 20 ppg to that 22-25 ppg range easily w/his excellent FT shooting, & that to me will negate some of his shortcomings on defense... i think adding some defensive minded players is a better strategy at this point than expecting someone like Jamal or say Curry to suddenly & miraculously become defensive guys... it just ain't gonna happen.

if jamal averages 22-25 ppg (by virtue of a system that allows more possessions, and, hence, shots per game) at his usual 40% rate will you consider him to be an improved player, or the same player greenlighted to take more shots?

u didn't read what i wrote... i want his scoring averages to go up as a result of him making an effort to penetrate to the hole & get to the FT line on a more consistent basis... that sort of improvement will allow him to sustain his scoring averages on a nightly basis even when his shot isn't falling... i don't wanna see his averages go up simply as a result of him taking more shots while still shooting a low percentage & taking ill-advised jumpers... if he can play within the system & become more of an efficient scoring threat i think it can do wonders for the improvement of this team.
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9/10/2008  5:54 PM
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i disagree w/u on this one bro... if Jamal can become a consistent scoring threat for this team it surely will have an impact on winning games... his problem right now is more or less his inconsistency & streaky shooting... if he sets his mind to drive to the hole more & increase his FT attempts per game averages, he can up his current scoring avg. of 20 ppg to that 22-25 ppg range easily w/his excellent FT shooting, & that to me will negate some of his shortcomings on defense... i think adding some defensive minded players is a better strategy at this point than expecting someone like Jamal or say Curry to suddenly & miraculously become defensive guys... it just ain't gonna happen.

if jamal averages 22-25 ppg (by virtue of a system that allows more possessions, and, hence, shots per game) at his usual 40% rate will you consider him to be an improved player, or the same player greenlighted to take more shots?

u didn't read what i wrote... i want his scoring averages to go up as a result of him making an effort to penetrate to the hole & get to the FT line on a more consistent basis... that sort of improvement will allow him to sustain his scoring averages on a nightly basis even when his shot isn't falling... i don't wanna see his averages go up simply as a result of him taking more shots while still shooting a low percentage & taking ill-advised jumpers... if he can play within the system & become more of an efficient scoring threat i think it can do wonders for the improvement of this team.
You remind of a period when Jamal started driving to the hole more and going with a short floater. It was very successful, but it was hard to do when you have Zach and Curry in the paint clogging things up. One thing we can be sure of is that Mike won't have the paint clogged for his players to be able move freely and stretch defenses. THAT is going to encourage better shots.

See the thing that seems to be overlooked is that coaching and a capable floor leader can make all the difference. Mike does a better job of getting his teams to execute and get great shots, not just good shots. Picking up Duhon was based on his ability to set up an offense, which he did very well in Chicago. Stats and visual observation proves that the team ran very smoothly when he was running the point. I believe that is what attracted Mike and Walsh to Duhon. Having him will only help this team to run the offense the right way and that will help everyone, including Jamal.
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