Posted by Paladin55:

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Gallinari was not chosen because he was on buildings in Milan. He was chosen because the Knicks think he can leap over buildings (so to speak). This was one of the most significant picks for them in years- A new GM and new Coach are putting their future on the line with this pick. He may never turn out to be anything special (I actually believe he will be an excellent player- but never a superstar.) but he was not picked "for the community," and Isiah was not behind this pick. Hell, the "community" let the Knicks know day 1 what they though of the pick, and you could hear it on TV. I'm sure Randolph or Bayless or Gordon would have gotten a better reception. He was picked because they thought he was the best player on the board, and a guy who could be a building block for a good team.

Should be an interesting 5 games.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 07-13-2008 11:17 PM]

Posted by Bippity10:

"What Isiah did did not stand well with basketball purist in the city."

You must mean the people that like to see more than 24 victories in a season

Posted by Paladin55:

Date	Opponent	Result	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OFF	DEF	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	PTS
Jul 13	vs. DAL		W 95-86	26	5-  12	0-1	1-1	 2	 3	 5	2	  1        1   4	3	11

Randolph's second game. Nothing to write home about. Does this mean he is no longer the annointed one? Some people got a little too excited after his first game. Some of you might have also seen Joe Alexander's 2/13 shooting and Gordon's 32% (2 pointers), and the fact that while Mayo has some good offensive stats- he is a turnover machine. Something to be worried about if you are the teams that drafted these guys- who knows?

I actually think Randolph will be a good player, but you can't get carried away by these games. He is a 6'9" (official pre-draft no shoe measurement), 197 lb multi-talented player, who can't shoot long range (And if you look at how he shoots he may never be a 30%+ 3 pt shooter), and may or may not be a good enough man to man defensive player in this league (I think he will be a very good off the ball defender- has good timing and that long reach.). Not super explosive, but smooth and deceptive, and clearly a good athlete. Bosh or Prince upside? Who knows? Nobody knows how tough he will end up being, either.

Looking forward to seeing Gallinari and Chandler tomorrow, and hopefully will be taping the games on MSG. Don't really care whether Gallinari shoots well- I know that this will come when he finds a comfort level in the league, I'm more interested with his D (footwork) and rebounding (boxing out), and whether he is the passer that I think he can be. Will also be interested in his post-up game. Do care about Chandler's outside shot. If he can hit the jumper on a consistent basis the Knicks have a real stud for the future. If he can't, he might just end up being a stronger version of Balkman.

Also do or die for Mardy Collins and Balkman, in my opinion. These guys have to do well in this setting. 3rd year for each of them. We will see if they did any off season work on their shooting.


Gallinari was not chosen because he was on buildings in Milan. He was chosen because the Knicks think he can leap over buildings (so to speak). This was one of the most significant picks for them in years- A new GM and new Coach are putting their future on the line with this pick. He may never turn out to be anything special (I actually believe he will be an excellent player- but never a superstar.) but he was not picked "for the community," and Isiah was not behind this pick. Hell, the "community" let the Knicks know day 1 what they though of the pick, and you could hear it on TV. I'm sure Randolph or Bayless or Gordon would have gotten a better reception. He was picked because they thought he was the best player on the board, and a guy who could be a building block for a good team.

Should be an interesting 5 games.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 07-13-2008 11:17 PM]

Posted by playa2:

A kid that is only 19 yrs old who has the genes from his dad who played the game and he's an Italian.

I heard lou Carnasecca told walsh that he as operations guy , he would now be responsible to restore respectability to NYC basketaball.

What Isiah Thomas accomplished, did not stand well with basketball purist in the city.

Walsh is gonna go in a whole different route to restore the fans confidence again.

Many teams heard of "THE GALL" while scouting in europe, but nobody chose him before the knicks. Nobody wanted to trade up to get him either, so how good do you think he will be in the NBA ?

randolph randolph randolph, should be a NY Knick.

The purist in the city want the old knicks to be restored, no not the 90's knicks, but the 70's knicks.

The knicks with walsh are in pursuit of a dave debusshere, a walt frazier, a willia reed types etc...

D'ANTONI must prove he can do his thing without nash, so he's looking for guys who are use to playing team ball.
We will see.

[Edited by - playa2 on 14-07-2008 10:21]

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by playa2:

A kid that is only 19 yrs old who has the genes from his dad who played the game and he's an Italian.

I heard lou Carnasecca told walsh that he as operations guy , he would now be responsible to restore respectability to NYC basketaball.

What Isiah Thomas accomplished, did not stand well with basketball purist in the city.

Walsh is gonna go in a whole different route to restore the fans confidence again.

Many teams heard of "THE GALL" while scouting in europe, but nobody chose him before the knicks. Nobody wanted to trade up to get him either, so how good do you think he will be in the NBA ?

randolph randolph randolph, should be a NY Knick.

The purist in the city want the old knicks to be restored, no not the 90's knicks, but the 70's knicks.

The knicks with walsh are in pursuit of a dave debusshere, a walt frazier, a willia reed types etc...

D'ANTONI must prove he can do his thing without nash, so he's looking for guys who are use to playing team ball.
We will see.

[Edited by - playa2 on 14-07-2008 10:21]

Look at what you just wrote, then think about where Randolph went. Going by your own logic you shouldn't feel that Randolph is that good either. Based on the fact that nobody took him in the top 5 or top 10 and he was the last pick in the lottery. Plus the fact that nobody traded up for him.

As for everything else it sounds good to me.

Posted by playa2:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by playa2:

A kid that is only 19 yrs old who has the genes from his dad who played the game and he's an Italian.

I heard lou Carnasecca told walsh that he as operations guy , he would now be responsible to restore respectability to NYC basketaball.

What Isiah Thomas accomplished, did not stand well with basketball purist in the city.

Walsh is gonna go in a whole different route to restore the fans confidence again.

Many teams heard of "THE GALL" while scouting in europe, but nobody chose him before the knicks. Nobody wanted to trade up to get him either, so how good do you think he will be in the NBA ?

randolph randolph randolph, should be a NY Knick.

The purist in the city want the old knicks to be restored, no not the 90's knicks, but the 70's knicks.

The knicks with walsh are in pursuit of a dave debusshere, a walt frazier, a willia reed types etc...

D'ANTONI must prove he can do his thing without nash, so he's looking for guys who are use to playing team ball.
We will see.

[Edited by - playa2 on 14-07-2008 10:21]

Look at what you just wrote, then think about where Randolph went. Going by your own logic you shouldn't feel that Randolph is that good either. Based on the fact that nobody took him in the top 5 or top 10 and he was the last pick in the lottery. Plus the fact that nobody traded up for him.

As for everything else it sounds good to me.

Not really, THE GALL was picked by a team that hasn't been in the playoffs for many yrs, GS has made it to the playoffs as of late.

NY's pick at #6 can't be an error made by the knicks brass, this must be an impact player. Other teams after the knicks were picking for need, the knicks were picking for the community

Posted by playa2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by Bippity10:

"What Isiah did did not stand well with basketball purist in the city."

You must mean the people that like to see more than 24 victories in a season

No i'm taling about the people who want to see the ball passed around 4-5 times before a shot, those that remember the NYKNICKS 70's type of basketball

Oh, I beleive you altered that post after i responded to it.

No sir, Iedited my posted at 10:21 and you responded at 10:22



[Edited by - playa2 on 14-07-2008 11:54]

Regardless, what I responded to was different than what it says at this moment. That is why there was confusion.