Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by martin:

BRIGGS, minutes? Banks, Nash, Bell, Barbosa?

martinm--the onl;y thing that matters here is that they gave Banks a full MLE because Dantoni wanted him as the back up PG--that kind of kills his player evaluation credibility a tad. Chris Duhon is a 39% lifetime back up PG who we just gave 6mm per to--so what--who did he make better on chicago tyrus thomas? how about nobody.

Posted by umynot:

Duhon is solid and regardless what you think mid level is on the cheap! Not to mention he could of signed elsewhere for more money and years!

As far as Coach D how can anyone not like him? He is the real life King Midas everything he touches turns to gold!

He has not won the big one yet but what better stage to do it on?

Posted by nixluva:

This is a transition period for this team, so I really don't understand all the fuss about Duhon. He provides a capable and steady player at the point. He's not here to be spectacular, but to fulfill his role and make sure things run smoothly. He takes care of the ball, which is something that NONE of our guards do. We have been a horrible TO team for years now and this will help to lower that.

We might catch a break and the guy steps up a level or two, just like many of D'Antoni's players have. You can't just mention the one of two guys that didn't work out and forget the MANY guys who played much better under D'Antoni. Do we just ignore those facts?

We're not even sure how he's going to use Duhon yet. Let's see if they make any more moves. I'm anxious to see how this team will look under D'Antoni. I want to see if he can get them to play much better. Unlike many here I actually believe this team has massively underachieved and that they're is a lot more that can be squeezed out of this team. If successful we can make trades more easily. That to me is the end game for a signing like this.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by martin:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by martin:

BRIGGS, minutes? Banks, Nash, Bell, Barbosa?

martinm--the onl;y thing that matters here is that they gave Banks a full MLE because Dantoni wanted him as the back up PG--that kind of kills his player evaluation credibility a tad. Chris Duhon is a 39% lifetime back up PG who we just gave 6mm per to--so what--who did he make better on chicago tyrus thomas? how about nobody.

you can say that about every freaking GM out there. There is alway one or many bad signings. So what?

Still haven't answered my question. On a playoff run out West, for the player development of Banks, who's minutes do you cut? And why?

You are going to play the guys that got you there.

Let me ask you which players on the Bulls did Chris Duhon make better in his 4 years and what was Dantoni's record without Steve Nash?

I think a lot of coaches would win a lot of games with Amare Nash and Marion in their prime.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 07-04-2008 11:54 PM]

Posted by martin:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by martin:

BRIGGS, minutes? Banks, Nash, Bell, Barbosa?

martinm--the onl;y thing that matters here is that they gave Banks a full MLE because Dantoni wanted him as the back up PG--that kind of kills his player evaluation credibility a tad. Chris Duhon is a 39% lifetime back up PG who we just gave 6mm per to--so what--who did he make better on chicago tyrus thomas? how about nobody.

you can say that about every freaking GM out there. There is alway one or many bad signings. So what?

Still haven't answered my question. On a playoff run out West, for the player development of Banks, who's minutes do you cut? And why?

Posted by Uptown:

Posted by martin:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by umynot:

Duhon is solid and regardless what you think mid level is on the cheap! Not to mention he could of signed elsewhere for more money and years!

As far as Coach D how can anyone not like him? He is the real life King Midas everything he touches turns to gold!

He has not won the big one yet but what better stage to do it on?

Lets be honest and stop the BS. Chris Duhon is a decent back up level PG in the NBA. We signed him for two years. He wont get us to a championship level-he wont even have an impact--so it's a non event. The only thing I care about is 4 things

getting rid of 2010 cap players

losing as many games as possible next year.

Develop Gallinari and Chandler and they should be given priority PT I hope we keep D lee but we would have to get rid of Craw Curry and Randolph to do it---at worst get rid of curry and craw[doable] and find a team who will take randolph for 3 year mle and buy him out[unless there is a deal to be made?????]

Chris duhon=nothing really waste of money that will be spewed on to ticketholders for no reason 6mm per??? which =12mm per???

We need development another high pick in2008 and cap room in 2010 everything else is irrelevant

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 07-04-2008 11:18 PM]

He is a pass first guard how plays D. That helps Curry and Zbo and elevating their value. Also helps guys like Chandler and Galli if he is passing instead of trying to jack up points and shots like Crawford or a contract fighting Marbury.

Duhon isn't the type of pg that makes players better or gets them easier shots. He's not going to get into the teeth of the defense, darw and dish. He's not a very imaginitive passer. He's a point guard that will get the ball over the mid court line get the team into its offensive sets. He doesn't take chances which is why his turnovers are down.

Posted by Uptown:

Posted by martin:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by umynot:

Duhon is solid and regardless what you think mid level is on the cheap! Not to mention he could of signed elsewhere for more money and years!

As far as Coach D how can anyone not like him? He is the real life King Midas everything he touches turns to gold!

He has not won the big one yet but what better stage to do it on?

Lets be honest and stop the BS. Chris Duhon is a decent back up level PG in the NBA. We signed him for two years. He wont get us to a championship level-he wont even have an impact--so it's a non event. The only thing I care about is 4 things

getting rid of 2010 cap players

losing as many games as possible next year.

Develop Gallinari and Chandler and they should be given priority PT I hope we keep D lee but we would have to get rid of Craw Curry and Randolph to do it---at worst get rid of curry and craw[doable] and find a team who will take randolph for 3 year mle and buy him out[unless there is a deal to be made?????]

Chris duhon=nothing really waste of money that will be spewed on to ticketholders for no reason 6mm per??? which =12mm per???

We need development another high pick in2008 and cap room in 2010 everything else is irrelevant

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 07-04-2008 11:18 PM]

He is a pass first guard how plays D. That helps Curry and Zbo and elevating their value. Also helps guys like Chandler and Galli if he is passing instead of trying to jack up points and shots like Crawford or a contract fighting Marbury.

Duhon isn't the type of pg that makes players better or gets them easier shots. He's not going to get into the teeth of the defense, darw and dish. He's not a very imaginitive passer. He's a point guard that will get the ball over the mid court line get the team into its offensive sets. He doesn't take chances which is why his turnovers are down.

Thats what this team needs. Sure it would be great if he was Chris Paul. But I have no problem settling for 2 yrs for what you just stated above. Crawford & Nate can take care of the imaginitive passes. Duhon can make sure the offense is set, take care of the ball, provide some quality post entry passes, provide some effort on D, knock down the open 3.

Posted by islesfan:


#1 Steve Nash was already a multiple time all star and admittedly, D'Antonio's System and Nash were perfect for each other. Good luck finding anything close to that in NY.

#2 Chris Duhon is a winner?!? LMAO Good one.

#3 D'Antonio's System has a way of getting players to accumulate better statistics, not necessarily be better. Put guys like Barbosa, Bell, Diaw and pretty much every player, including the Holy Trinity, on another team that doesn't run and gun and actually commits to playing defense and I'm sure their numbers would go down big time. Or would that mean that they're worse?

#4 It's a useless signing that will hurt more than it'll help.

Posted by toodarkmark:

Posted by islesfan:


#1 Steve Nash was already a multiple time all star and admittedly, D'Antonio's System and Nash were perfect for each other. Good luck finding anything close to that in NY.

#2 Chris Duhon is a winner?!? LMAO Good one.

#3 D'Antonio's System has a way of getting players to accumulate better statistics, not necessarily be better. Put guys like Barbosa, Bell, Diaw and pretty much every player, including the Holy Trinity, on another team that doesn't run and gun and actually commits to playing defense and I'm sure their numbers would go down big time. Or would that mean that they're worse?

#4 It's a useless signing that will hurt more than it'll help.

#1 Well Isles maybe you should allow D'Antoni to coach ONE game with the players we have AFTER AT LEAST ONE WEEK of the free agent/trading time. I know you want a team of all stars right away but its unrealistic.

#2 Chris Duhon playing major minutes on a Bulls team made up of young players none of which were stars, and they won alot of games and were considered a team on the rise. They almost won 50 games in 06-07 with him playing 25 minutes a game at point guard. His minutes and place on the team get cut considerably and all of the sudden they begin to lose.

#3 How many wins has he averaged over the last 4 years? 62, 54, 61, 55. With two conference finals. Don't tell me he didn't make players better. Oh wait they didn't win a championship so of course they weren't REALLY better. He took a team with 29 wins the year he took over and made them one of the most exciting and successful teams where players wanted to come and play.

#4 How is it going to hurt? They signed a serviceable point guard for 2 years while WE ARE REBUILDING. Once again. Who else is worth signing?